Membro: gregstevenstx

Concerning your thread on "Consciousness, Intent, and basic building-blocks". I like your idea that man may have trapped himself into a search for building blocks based on physically apparent analogies. I also like your idea that our mental activities / conscious may be an evolution of simple physical characteristics such as an amoeba’s cell membrane reaction in a certain chemical environment.

I especially like your hope of finding theoretical unification.

I have revisited a topic several times in my life that has led me to the same questions that you appear to be pondering. I am an electrical engineer who tends to be more interested in theoretical physics than electronic design. I started trying to find what the basic measurable building blocks were (fundamental characteristics). For instance we know velocity is simply a measure of distance traveled during a certain time. Therefore velocity is not a fundamental characteristic. Another way to look at velocity is that it is simply the derivative of position against time. Acceleration is the derivative of velocity against time. Force is simply acceleration times mass. At first my thoughts led me to believe the fundamental characteristics may be the mass of an object, its' location and the time at which it occupies that location.

These types of thoughts led me to quests that were not that much different from Einstein's quest for a unifying theory. The quest that he was still on when he died. I spent some time pondering wave theory and particle theory and learning about quantum theory.

This all eventually progressed to the point that I now realize mass not a fundamental characteristic. Mass and Energy can be calculated strictly based upon the frequency at which an object vibrates. Physicists are now realizing the smallest building blocks we can break nature into (photons, bosons etc..) actually have zero mass when at rest. It's the movement that gives them mass. So nature is really just mass-less objects that man cannot observe with his senses that vibrate, or spin and create the properties we can identify with our senses. When you hold a rock... you are not holding any particles at all.

This leads me to ponder some of the same things you are pondering. Could consciousness be one of the first things to exist? Can consciousness exist without a physical media or naturally observable event?

If you want to bounce some ideas off of one another it might lead us further along our paths. Maybe you just have a list of books or articles that you think I should read... E-mail me at work jeff.taylor@labarge.com or at home jtaylor146@hotmail.com.

publicado por pitangent146 às 2:17 pm (EST) em Dec 18, 2009