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... of liberties taken with characthers and scenes from the original novel; yet I wish to continue. I have read Dan Simons Hyperion and The Fall of Hyperion (most impressive) and like his writing. He has not made glaring errors in Drood that I have spotted. (There is one crucial fact that I ... 29: I read the entirety of Cerebus It's the comic version of The Cantos, since each author was a genius AND crackpot who redefined their respective medium (comics, poetry). The first few volumes completely rawked! Adventure, politics, satire, etc. ... until the later volumes when Dave Sim ... >126
The adjectives you use to describe Olympos and Ilium are just. With the exception of "wildly funny," Hyperion and The Fall of Hyperion should be described in kind. It's my position that the quality of the plot and the writing is on an order of magnitude higher in The Hyperion Cantos and ... ... book selling for $35, and even I don't love Dan Simmons THAT much. (Sorry, Dan!) But I found it at the library. It's no Hyperion,but it's an interesting read. 3 1/2 stars
56. The Children's Book by A.S. Byatt
OK, to sound much like my last comment, it's no Possession, but it's ... #55 Consider Phlebas
or do I really mean Hyperion? oh, yeah, they are different books. Plot is so similar it's hard to tell them apart. ... or not this was caused by Dune was never really determined to everyone's satisfaction).
But anyway... I just finished Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion and have been trying to get through Off Armageddon Reef for weeks now and have just decided that they are, indeed, too darn long.
So I ... "What would have happened if Abraham had loved his son more than he loved God?" (p.240 Hyperion Cantos)
I started Hyperion the day before yesterday and have made it through about 80 pages in a couple hours reading - the first 50 or so I wondered if it was going to keep being draggy, but it has definitely picked up now... I can't wait to get home and continue reading.
In fact, it's interesting ... ... noticed very little hard science fiction listed. Since I generally prefer hard sf to fantasy fiction, and since I devoured Hyperion with lust and fascination, I doubt that I can help you much. It may be that it is just not your kind of book. I've heard good things about Carrion Comfort and So ... I don't remember the beginning of the book clearly, but I found Hyperion as a whole to be a very good read. The Canterbury-Tales approach worked well for me, with the items that each traveller didn't disclose showing up in others' tales. I enjoyed the sequel as well. The two Endymion books ... I hate to give up on a book, especially before the third chapter or page one hundred or so. Even then, if it's a book like Hyperion that won a Hugo and has such a high rating and great reviews here on LT - well, I really want to enjoy it and find out for myself why the book is regarded so highly.
... This is probably old news to Dan Simmons fans, but a movie(s) based on the Hyperion Cantos is/(are) gaining momentum. The most recent version involves smashing Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion together into one movie.
http://www.dansimmons.com/news/news_items.htm#film
I must say, Hyperi ... kswolff in Literary Snobs : At 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, and Beyond ( Set 26, 2009, 6:03pm) ... 40K novels, Foucault, Lord of the Rings
30 -- Enderby, Stranger in a Strange Land, A Handful of Dust, The Cantos, The Royal Family
35 -- Assuming I'm still alive ... probably more Chinese literature, since the US will inevitably become a Chinese colony ;)
40 -- No ... 8: You'd think with all his money he could afford a decent creative writing class?
I've read The Cantos, Gravity's Rainbow, In Search of Lost Time, and Ulysses -- not as a boast, there's a punchline ahead ... wait for it ...
But I could barely finish Chapter 1 of Angels and Demons I will always second the reading of Hyperion but since you sound like someone who would probably appreciate the use of accuracy in the science of science fiction I would recommend that you look for books in the "Hard SF" sub-genre.
Authors like: Alastair Reynolds, Greg Bear, Kim Stanley Robinso ... ... suggest you check out Roger Zelazny's Lord of Light too, but as it is quite old, you might have read it already.
Hyperion by Dan Simmons is also quite a good take on Science Fiction. Not necessarily scientifically correct, but who cares. ;)
People have already mentioned plenty ... I would recommend something like Hyperion by Dan Simmons. This is a very well written novel with excellent characters that weaves the overall story through the individual stories of the characters. His is very good at developing an atmosphere and provides rich detail of time and location. Each ... #22
Did you check before you posted that?
Hyperion is 480 pages and Fall Of Hyperion is 544 pages. Both are above average length for a SF novel. Ilium is 656 pages, Endymion is 624 pages, The Rise of Endymion is 816 pages, Olympos is 832 pages. Where are these short SF novels ... ... it had some interesting ideas (like all Banks's work). There is something fascinating about the Culture however.
The Hyperion series is superb. SPOILER ALERT Some of its concepts are mind-bending. The parasites that resurrect you; the faster than light drives that cause so much damage ... ... science fiction novels. And whilst Dan Simmons has really pushed the boundary with the massive Drood, his earlier Hyperion novels were not too large.
The same can be said of such innovative titles as Blindsight, any of Iain Banks's Culture novels and many other SF novelists of ... Dan Simmons's Hyperion series is excellent, if a little bit more cerebral than Reynolds.
You could also try A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge. Space opera at its very finest. As crazybatcow says, Peter F Hamilton is well considered in SF circles, though I personally ... Does His Dark Materials by Phillip Pullman count?
I have a love/hate relationship with the Hyperion novels of Dan Simmons (his most recent stuff unreadable, alas).
Liked the Altered Carbon books.
I liked Gateway but never got around to reading the series.
Hope it's not ... ... hors
2. Time Enough For Love by Heinlein
3. Neuromancer by Gibson
4. Dangerous Visions edited by Harlan Ellison
5. Hyperion by Dan Simmons
Authors:
Harlan Ellison
Theodore Sturgeon
Roger Zelazny
Neal Stephenson
A. E. Van Vogt
If I thought my copy wouldn't fall apart in my ... I'll nominate an old, a middle and a newer.
Earth Abides by George R Stewart
Hyperion by Dan Simmons
and
Altered Carbon by Richard Morgan.
I recently read China Mieville's The City and the city and think that would be very ripe for discussion by a group, but I won't nominate ... Some new nominations:
Dan Simmons's four Hyperion novels
Ursula K LeGuin's Hainish novels, which don't really form a series but are set in the same universe and include a couple of her finest novels (The Dispossessed and The Left Hand of Darkness)
Gene Wolfe's Sun series, ... ... unusual settings.
Nevertheless, I like his writing and the book seems very promising. I hope to get around to reading Hyperion afterwards. Making my way slowly through The Hyperion Omnibus which includes Hyperion and The Fall of Hyperion by Dan Simmons. After reading a large part of the first book and getting a bit frustrated with it, I listened to a review of the books online, and then I started to jump around in the Omnibus, ... ... and characters - it was all interesting but hard to keep track of.
Just finished Fall of Hyperion, the conclusion to Hyperion and was very impressed, though somewhat overloaded on a first reading. That's going back on the shelf for a future re-read.
As for Hitch-hiker, I ended up ... ... well absorbed by Joe Meno's new book.
I was looking forward to The Hollow Man, because I have read a couple of the Hyperion books and really enjoyed them. But it turns out that The Hollow Man is really bad. It seemed like the thoughts being picked up by the telepathic main character ... ... next year, a little at a time.
My shortlist for the moment is:
Dune and Dune Messiah
The Book of the New Sun
Hyperion
Snow Crash
I want to read books that I have not read since the initial read at least 15 years ago or so, but which I have enshrined in my memory as really ... ... Pohl
Red Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson
Blue Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson
Green Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson
Hyperion by Dan Simmons
The Fall of Hyperion by Dan Simmons
Ring Around The Sun by Clifford Simak
A Canticle for Liebowitz by Walter M. Miller
and many other ... ... stop you, as many formats can be converted.
Ender's Game
Rendezvous with Rama
Gateway
Flowers for Algernon
Hyperion
Starship Troopers
On a Pale Horse
... for fiction written in serial form. Some passages are, like Moby Dick, marvelously poetic.
Getting close to finishing The Cantos Nearly done with "Thrones" and then it's the final "Drafts and Fragments." I plan on writing a lengthy review of the book and the experience. No wonder no one ... ... Miller
Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury
Darwin's Radio by Greg Bear
The Doomsday Book by Connie Willis
Hyperion by Dan Simmons
War with the Newts by Karel Capek
The Demolished Man by Alfred Bester
The Postman by David Brin
Glimmering by Elizabeth ... Are you reading the Cantos? I'm almost to the "Throne Cantos." Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card
Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny
Red Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson
Hyperion by Dan Simmons
The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin
Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson
Light by M. John Harrison
The Speed of Dark by E ... ... 'classics' and may add more later.
Red Mars Kim Stanley Robinson
Dragon's Egg Robert Forward
Dune Frank Herbert
Hyperion Dan Simmons
Blood Music Greg Bear
West of Eden Harry Harrison
The Fuzzy Papers H Beam Piper
and
The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury because even ... ... rke
Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson
Consider Phlebas by Iain M Banks
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Robert Heinlein
Hyperion by Dan Simmons
Dune by Frank Herbert
Downbelow Station by C.J. Cherryh ... Reviewers) ... I'll finish it pretty soon. It's really short.
Sleepwalking Through History by Haynes Johson
And The Cantos by Pound and "Rising Up and Rising Down" by William Vollmann Both, multi-year, mega-reading projects. Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion by Dan Simmons, with the Shrike and man's religions vs. machine's religions, come to mind, as do the Endymion sequels. The Doomsday Book by Connie Willis, with the village priest's confession, has religious threads, as does her Passage. ... a similar strategy. I'm reading multiple books at once, but they are radically different: a sci fi pot-boiler; Pound's Cantos for poetry; Death and Life of American Cities for non-fiction; and "Rising Up and Rising Down" by William Vollmann. The last, RURD, I approach as a "resource" ... ... Revolution games has done it I believe!
Also trying to finish up Endymion by Dan Simmons, the sequel to Hyperion and The Fall of Hyerion ~ he is one of my most favorite authors. 219, 220
Reading Hyperion right now. True, it has many references to classic literature, but I find it engaging despite all that. ;) #208
Hasn't Dan Simmons (no touchstone) made several attempts at literary science fiction? Hyperion constantly referenced Yeats, and Illium constantly referenced Shakespeare and Homer. Only about 200 pages into Hyperion and already my belief in the possibilities of SF are renewed. After stumbling over a number of literary disappointments this year, Hyperion has restored my faith that SF can convey a depth of character, breadth of plot, richness of setting and sublimity of ... ... Scott Card (not including some of the sequels...)
The Forever War by Joe Haldeman
Generation P by Victor Pelevin
Hyperion by Dan Simmons
I, Robot by Isaac Asimov
Lilith's Brood by Octavia Butler (AKA Xenogenesis trilogy)
Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson
The Dispossessed by Urs ... ... in the High Castle by Phil Dick
Good News from Outer Space by John Kessel
Lord Valentine's castle by Bob Silverberg
Hyperion by Dan Simmons
We by Yevgeny zamyatin
Slan by AE Van Vogt
More than Human by Theodore Sturgeon
The Dying Earth by Jack vance
Martian Odyssey by Stanl ... ... ton
Footfall by Niven/Pournelle
The Mote in God's Eye by Niven/Pournelle
Red Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson (1 of 3)
Hyperion by Dan Simmons (1 of 4)
Ilium by Dan Simmons (1 of 2)
Heroes Die by Matthew Woodring Stover (1 of 4) ... by China Mieville? I'd love to see a slake moth on screen.
A post on the IMDB books board says they're adapting Hyperion and The Fall of Hyperion by Dan Simmons as one film. I haven't read the books yet, but the fact that they're squashing an epic sf classic into one movie ... ... one of my used book store purchases (most of my books came to me without my having chosen them). I had just finished his Hyperion/Endymion quartet because my husband was reading them. So I snatched it up, wrongly assuming it was scifi.
Maybe I'll give it another try... Whoa.
Best Literary: Jonathan Livingston Seagull by Richard Bach
Best SF Novel: Hyperion by Dan Simmons
Best Horror: The Dark Tower by Stephen King
Best Fantasy: Wraeththu by Storm Constantine
Best Romance: The Notebook by Nicholas Sparks
Best Historical: War of the Rats by David ... ... of Avila, and The Koran.
I also have some long-range reading projects I want to finish. Currently I'm reading The Cantos by Ezra Pound, about 1/2 way through. I also want to finish Rising Up and Rising Down by William Vollmann. Currently I'm on Volume 6 of 7. I'm on Vollmann ... #143 -- The Cantos also scares me too. Luckily I have Carroll Terrell's Companion to the Cantos, it helps a lot. That means spending a half hour reading a canto, then an hour and a half reading the annotations ;) I am within spitting distance of The Pisan Cantos. Right now I'm mired in Chi ... ... too much wonderful poetry out there not to fall in love with at least some of it.
There has been a discussion of Pound's Cantos in one of these thread (now how the hell does "Cantos" turn up Hyperion by Dan Simmons as a touchstone?) T.S. Elliott has several wonderful poems, my favorite 20th ... ... Not a chance. Very slow and boring. More like the Dirty Dozen (convicts on s suicide mission) in space with a dash of Hyperion (each character has a little story). Very little Chinese or Aztec feel, very slow, predictable, and boring.
Grendel by John Gardner
The monster's side of ... ... isn't about qualifications per se (knowledge of languages, editing High Modernists, etc.), but both Cerebus and The Cantos were massive, epic works of art. And both ended disastrously.
Watchmen and V for Vendetta by Allan Moore are also extraordinary. (The movie ... well, ... ... is quite excellent.
Dave Sim is the Ezra Pound of comic artists, in more ways than one. The farther I get into The Cantos, the more apparent this becomes. Hate to say it because I liked his Hyperion series, but I'd have to go with Dan Simmons' The Hollow Man. I almost gave up a couple of times. Ridiculous story with concepts not as integrated as they should have been. ... came in sight and little by little more DL-books found a place in my collection. But most credit must go to Dan Simmons' Hyperion series, even though they're Sci-Fi. That's what really got me into SF and later Fantasy.
#162: I've found that fantasy books seem to explore deeper topics than ... Hyperion and The Fall of Hyperion were better than Endymion and The Rise of Endymion. Ilium was better than Olympos. It seems Simmons is better at starting things then he is finishing them. ... and the Pohl seem to have wandered away. I haven't read Spin or Hominids or Blue Mars or Forever Peace or Hyperion, although I think I started the last once. And surprisingly, since I loved early Clarke (cut my teeth on The Deep Range, I haven't read either of his books in ... Sounds like Hyperion and The Fall of Hyperion, by Dan Simmons. 8. YA and speculative fiction
1. Tomorrow when the war began, John Marsden
2. Hyperion, Dan Simmons
3. A Fire on the Deep, Vernor Vinge
4. To Say Nothing of the Dog, Connie Willis (02/02/09)
5. Red Spikes, Margo Lanagan
6. The Chrysalids, John Wyndham ... too.
Guess you've read Brin's Startide Rising et al? I prefer the first set to the second. Same goes for Simmons' Hyperion and Emperion. With both authors I loved the set up (the first books) but didn't like where we ended up.
LOL That's probably way more than you were looking ... Science Fiction
1. Frank Herbert - Duin (Dune)
2. Dan Simmons - Hyperion
3. Dan Simmons - The Fall of Hyperion
4. Orson Scott Card - Ender's Shadow
5. Lois McMaster Bujold - Shards of Honour
6. Lois McMaster Bujold - Barrayar
7. Robert Charles Wilson ... ... really looking forward to these ten:
1. Gardens of the Moon by Steven Erikson
2. Dune by Frank Herbert
3. Hyperion by Dan Simmons
4. Through Wolf's Eyes by Jane Lindskold
5. Turning Point by Lisanne Norman
6. The Ultimate Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy by ... Empire of Ivory by Naomi Novik
Fallen Angel by Peter David
Guilty Pleasures by Laurell K. Hamilton
Hyperion by Dan Simmons
Interview With The Vampire by Anne Rice ...
5. The Matrix
Books
1. Dune
2. Foundation series
3. The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy
4. Ender's Game
5. Hyperion series
Things worth noting:-
- it takes a lot to dislodge the old crap stuff - it's been categorised as "best" for so long, its worth is no longer questioned. I ... Just remember that the Hyperion series is four novels--and not one of them under 400 pages! I liked Ilium and Olympos a bit better, but that may be because I have a long-standing affinity for the Greek gods. I thoroughly enjoyed The Terror but I was reading it in a freezing basement guest ... ... be overwhelming unless you are willing to go with the flow, especially in his fantasy/science fiction series starting with Hyperion. But if you want a scary story, try Song of Kali--it was his first, is one of his shortest, and I think of the dozen or so I've read--one of the best. >182 I hated, hated, hated Dan Simmons's Hyperion for a very different reason. I had read all of the unconnected short stories in the magazines long before he tried to tie them all together in one long novel. Since I loved the individual stories, I found subverting some of their themes or ... >182 I hated, hated, hated Dan Simmons's Hyperion for a very different reason. I had read all of the unconnected short stories in the magazines long before he tried to tie them all together in one long novel. Since I loved the individual stories, I found subverting some of their themes or ... Well Fall Of Hyperion picks up after some 300 years have passed.
Hyperion on its own was judged worthy on release before people had read Fall Of Hyperion and indeed before Simmons had even finished writing it. I guess it does divide opinion somewhat - the mosaic nature of the book makes ... ... at the time of publication. Which is why so much "classic" sf reads pretty poorily nowadays (although I'd still rate The Hyperion Cantos quite highly).
I just finished We Have Capture by Toma Stafford - it's an astronaut's autobriography - and reviewed it on my rojse in Science Fiction Fans : What are you reading? (Q4) September-December, 2008 (Out 13, 2008, 6:59am) Hyperion - Dan Simmons. I found it to be quite ordinary - the initial premises promised at the start were barely met, or if they were, they were met in the basest of ways. I learnt alot about the Hegemon that I didn't really want to know, and what I did want to know (why people worship a killing ... ... Coelestis (though I've had a copy sitting on my desk this past week; it's next to me as I type, even) so I'd recommend Hyperion instead, personally. Though that comes with the caveat that *only* Hyperion should be read and not any of the inferior sequels.
Going off on a tangent: if you ... ... - Behold the Man
Norman Spinrad - Little Heroes
Michael Marshall Smith - Only Forward
Dan Simmons - Hyperion / Endymion
Tad Williams - Otherland
Ian McDonald - Chaga / Kirinya
Orson Scott Card - Ender
Jack Womack - Ambient
George R. R. ... ... all her travails and could recognise goodness in unobvious people.
I've been looking at your SF choices too. I've heard Hyperion is excellent, so will look out for that. ... the impression we would move on to one of the other books discussed when we settled on Shadow of the Torturer such as Hyperion or A Deepness in the Sky. Maybe put Stephenson in our digital TBR file? ... Lewis
The Song of Troy - Colleen McCullough
Jane of Lantern Hill - L.M. Montgomery
Night Watch - Terry Pratchett
Hyperion and The Fall of Hyperion - Dan Simmons
Love Over Scotland - Alexander McCall Smith
The Lord of the Rings - J.R.R. Tolkien
(OK, so that's 21 - I cheated ... ... general. I see no "classics" on any of those lists.
The big intersection between all the folks there, and here, is the Hyperion books, and Accelerando, it seems. ... series recommended to me several times. First book is, I believe, On Basilisk Station. Oh, and you might want to look for Hyperion or other titles by Dan Simmons. I've also heard good things about Simmons.
Renee ... A Space Odyssey : Arthur C. Clarke
Dune : Frank Herbert
Tikkun : Gil Ilutovich
The Invincible : Stanislaw Lem
Hyperion : Dan Simmons
Childhood's End : Arthur C. Clarke
The Sparrow : Mary Doria Russell
Xenogenesis : Octavia Butler
A few extras that I highly recommend:
... ... Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J. K. Rowling
Hominids by Robert J. Sawyer
Hyperion by Dan Simmons
Ilium by Dan Simmons
Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell by Susanna Clarke
Lavondyss by Robert Holdstock
Mirror Dance by Lois McMaster Bujold ... arrgh. double post. ... as a structure for the novel frequently, before I read the novel. I read The Canterbury Tales and about halfway through Hyperion, I'm thinking, "OK, but what's the point? And I don't see any thematic point. What I see is a structure that enables him to give an overview to the Hegemony from ... ... upon reflection Fall of the Hyperion no longer feels like a separate entity to me, and I've ceased to regard it as such. Hyperion just feels like a giant prologue to me. It does not thematically resolve at the end.I went right into reading Fall of Hyperion and that felt completely right.
... 20
Hyperion Cantos is one book, actually. You can slap your own wrist. Might be two novels, but is certainly one book. :) ... cheating to include series as one book? The Book of the New Sun is a single book split into four for publication. But Hyperion and it sequels can't be considered like that. ... of Conscience- James Blish
22)Use of Weapons-Iain M Banks
23)The Paradox Men -Charles Harness
24)Hyperion Cantos-Hyperion/Fall of Hyperion -Dan Simmons
25)Stations of the Tide -Michael Swanwick
... Geoff Ryman
11 Metrophage, Richard Kadrey
12 Coelestis, Paul Park
13 Light, M. John Harrison
14 Hyperion, Dan Simmons
15 A Case of Conscience, James Blish
16 The Ophiuchi Hotline, John Varley
17 Dahlgren, Samuel R. Delany
18 Rendezvous with R ... ...
* A Canticle for Leibowitz, Walter Miller Jr.
* Snow Crash, Neal Stephenson
* Dune, Frank Herbert
* Hyperion, Dan Simmons
* Red Mars, Kin Stanley Robinson
* The Stars My Destination, Alfred Bester
* Starfish, Peter Watts
* Carlucci, Richard P ... ... while Wolfe's series is 4 books, Vinge's tome counts for about two, and Simmons book is no slouch for page count either:
Hyperion - 482 pages
A Fire Upon the Deep - 613 pages
The Book of the New Sun 260 + 250 + 298 + 313 = 1121 pages
As a side note observation - I can always guage ... ... are:
A Fire Upon the Deep, Vernor Vinge
Book of the New Sun, Gene Wolfe
Old Man’s War, John Scalzi
Hyperion, Dan Simmons
Farthing, Jo Walton
Hope everyone else is as interested in this as I am. I might do the same. I loved Hyperion and The Fall of Hyperion, also by Dan Simmons, although they're sci fi rather than crime. ... of A Fire Upon the Deep. I'm not sure my previous upthread comment was counted a second, so I'll second (again?) Hyperion. I'll also second Old Man's War since it'd be nice to read a Scalzi, what an interesting guy! ... all his own. I don't find his books worth the effort any more. A reread of 2001: A Space Odyssey was not a success.
Hyperion was okay. I guess I'm almost alone in thinking Ilium was a better read. Not a suggestion, mind! ... Clarke (er, no pun intended). The quality of his books plummetted as he got older and more infirm. 3001 was dreadful.
Hyperion I wouldn't mind rereading, I have to admit. But then you'd have to go and read the sequel, The Fall of Hyperion.
But if we're in that sort of mood, then one ... ... you recommend reading first?
Same idea and question for Charlie Stross.
I have also heard very good things about Hyperion, and I already have a copy, so I'd be up for that. ... pretty satisfactorily. Still, for Dan Simmons, this seems like a lesser work. It has all of the ideas and action of, say Hyperion, but doesn't quite mesh together as well. Somehow the narrative seemed a little silly, and the protagonist's bad luck (despite being a telepath) almost seems like ... ... as Randolph Craig (1938)
16. The Vikings by Else Roesdahl (1997)
17. The White Buffalo by Richard Sale (1977)
18. Hyperion by Dan Simmons (1989)
19. The Fall of Hyperion by Dan Simmons (1990)
20. The Iron Dream by Norman Spinrad (1972)
21. Edda by Snnori Sturluson, trans. by A ... Dan Simmons has a number of myths retold:
Hyperion 2257 copies, 27 reviews
The fall of Hyperion 1765 copies, 18 reviews
Ilium 1292 copies, 24 reviews
Endymion 1275 copies, 8 reviews
The rise of Endymion 1117 copies, 8 reviews
Olympos 897 copies, 18 reviews
Hyperion is ... ... Ursula LeGuin considered how instant communication without faster than light transportation would affect us. In Hyperion, Simmons imagined what it would be like to have instant transport anywhere, and then what would happen if it was suddenly shut off. ... they really don't hold up well, especially for someone concerned with characterization.
Some of my favorite books, like Hyperion, A Fire Upon The Deep, etc., really assume more of a background in the genre than a newcomer would have, and I couldn't recommend them to a newcomer.
... Here's a list of what I've read so far this year:
1. Endymion by Dan Simmons
2. Rise of Endymion by Dan Simmons
3. Hyperion by Dan Simmons *re-read
4. Fall of Hyperion by Dan Simmons *re-read
These re-reads are an exception to the insomnia thing. I re-read these because Simmons ... I've read Hyperion and really enjoyed it. I haven't read his Ilium series but I heard that it wasn't as good so I'm not sure if I will. Thanks for the recommendations....I'll have to hunt them down at my local 2nd hand sci fi store. ... Concentration. That's an SF novel with a literary aspect.
Also, you could check out Dan Simmons' Hyperion series : Hyperion and Fall of the Hyperion which also have a literary aspect to them as well. ... Many, many people catalog all of this by title or the grouping of three titles.
I've wondered about Dan Simmons Hyperion series, and the more recent retelling of Homer's "Iliad" and "Odyssey". Simmons is weaving some horror and science fiction into his fantasy, and I'm not sure what ... ... here. Maybe don't read it during the winter. LOL Dan Simmons is one of my favorite authors. Don't even get me started on Hyperion. 33. Hyperion
34. Body Language
35. Call of Cthulu
36. The Codebreakers
I really had to go by page count as I had some doozies. Book total by page count, 47. I almost made it. I blame it on some real stinkers and some tough reads.
On to 2008! ... have been on this list in some way. American Gods is brilliant, as is Stardust and Neverwhere.
Dan Simmons's Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion, too. Chuck Palahniuk's Haunted and Dan Simmons' Hyperion are both works of genre fiction structured around a framing narrative. Despite being genre works (science fiction and horror*, respectively) both novelists are unashamed to telegraph literary aspirations, not just structurally, but with ... #10
I think your two SF choices are very good, Childhood's End and Hyperion. ... David Weber (writes a lot of military sci-fi)
Harry Turtledove (he writes alternate fantasy/sci-fi realities stories)
Hyperion by Dan Simmons
Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke
Old Man's War by John Scalzi
The Forever War by Joe Haldeman}
City of Pearl by Karen Traviss ... ... I've been kicking around the idea of comparing Haunted to City of Saints and Madmen as fix-up novels, though I think Hyperion is probably a better choice. (I also considered comparing Haunted to the work of Thomas Ligotti to compare the use of puppet symbolism.) I think one blockage ... ... Falling on Cedars to Memoirs of a Geisha in that both are written by white men trying to get into Japanese minds.
Hyperion to (the admittedly god-awful) Haunted as frame stories.
The Power and the Glory to Bless Me, Ultima in their respective depictions of South America and Sou ... ... about an opera based on an Oscar Wilde story, and also about the Triumph of Art over Science (I think).
Dan Simmons' Hyperion books features various artists, poets foremost.
Galatea 2.2 by Richard Powers follows the creation/upbringing of an AI by way of literature; he has other ... Check out Diaspora by Greg Egan. It goes pretty far out, though the aliens don't show up right away.
The Shrike in Hyperion probably fits your bill too, though it has a bit of a background role. Knew I'd find another couple:
Hyperion and Endymion by Dan Simmons - John Keats Well, maybe a literary novel is one that academics read, and classics are the ones they are still reading.
The novel Hyperion by Dan Simmons is filled with literary allusions, but I am not sure that one would call it literary." Is it on any college's reading list? For someone recent, I think Dan Simmons has inventive Science fiction with Ilium and Olympos. I did like his Hyperion series from the 1990's, maybe better. ... of The Wendigo. Blackwood's been on my must read list forever.
So has Dan Simmons. I have Carrion Comfort, Hyperion, Song Of Kali, Children Of The Night and Summer Of Night. I haven't read any of them yet. A Winter Haunting sounded good, but I haven't picked it up yet ... Castleview by Gene Wolfe
Outlander by Diana Gabaldon
Chaos by James Gleick
Hyperion and Endymion by Dan Simmons
Tigana by Guy Gavriel Kay
Islandia by Austin Tappan Wright ... by Ursula LeGuin
The Stars My Destination by Alfred Bester
A Canticle for Leibowitz by Walter Miller Jr.
Hyperion by Dan Simmons
Beggars in Spain by Nancy Kress
Good News from Outer Space by John Kessel
Out of the Silent Planet by C. S. Lewis
Fantasy ... ... me. Also LeGuin, Guy Kay
book" A Canticle for Leibowitz is a very old favorite. I really enjoyed Dan Simmons' Hyperion books. Amen to previous mentions of LHoD and Bester. For me, though, nothing beats Wolfe's Sun books. #37
What sci-fi are you reading? I'm reading Sebastian which is a heck of a lot of world building. Hyperion, which I loved the first time I read it so I thought I'd re-read. The Society because I liked Japh and Dante's series. I'm thinking about listening to Lamb to help with the sweet ... The excellent sci-fi book, Hyperion by Dan Simmons has some great depictions of military structure interwoven with great storytelling.
--JA I was going to say Hyperion, but then I checked my catalogue and discovered that it's at least sixteen years old. Whoops.
Planetes should by less than ten years old, though. A manga about trash collectors in space. Brilliantly conceived and written, with a mix of hard sf and human stories. ... The Call of Cthulhu and the same author's shoggoths from At the Mountains of Madness, the Shrike from Dan Simmons' Hyperion and the alien in John Campbell's Who Goes There?, brought to such great life by John Carpenter...
And I'll stop now, because I've already taken way too long ...
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