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Suzette Haden Elgin (1936–2015)

Autor(a) de Native Tongue

64+ Works 4,795 Membros 71 Críticas 15 Favorited

About the Author

Suzette Haden Elgin was born Patricia Anne Wilkins on November 18, 1936 in Missouri. She received a PhD in linguistics from the University of California at San Diego in 1973. She taught there from 1972 to 1980, when she retired to focus on her writing full time. Her books include The Communipaths, mostrar mais Furthest, At the Seventh Level, Yonder Comes the Other End of Time, Twelve Fair Kingdoms, The Grand Jubilee, A First Dictionary and Grammar of Láadan, Peacetalk 101, and Native Tongue Trilogy. She founded the Science Fiction Poetry Association in 1978. The organization's Elgin Award, for best poetry book and chapbook of the year, is named in her honor. She wrote The Science Fiction Poetry Handbook. She was also widely published as a linguist. Her works include the Gentle Art of Verbal Self-Defense series. She died on January 27, 2015 at the age of 78. (Bowker Author Biography) mostrar menos
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(eng) Other sites show birthplace as Jefferson City, Missouri, USA.

Image credit: George Elgin

Séries

Obras por Suzette Haden Elgin

Native Tongue (1984) 1,087 exemplares
The Judas Rose (1987) 390 exemplares
Earthsong (1993) 259 exemplares
Yonder Comes the Other End of Time (1986) 159 exemplares
The Ozark Trilogy (1981) 159 exemplares
Twelve Fair Kingdoms (1981) 156 exemplares
The Grand Jubilee (1981) 120 exemplares
Star-Anchored, Star-Angered (1979) 117 exemplares
And Then There'll Be Fireworks (1981) 117 exemplares
Communipath Worlds (1980) 105 exemplares
At the Seventh Level (1972) 78 exemplares
Furthest (1971) 65 exemplares
The Grandmother Principles (1998) 46 exemplares
The Communipaths (1970) 17 exemplares
Peacetalk 101 (2003) 15 exemplares
Lest Levitation Come Upon Us (1982) 5 exemplares
For the Sake of Grace 5 exemplares
Pouring Down Words (1975) 4 exemplares
Hush My Mouth (1986) 3 exemplares
Drussa Silver (1979) 3 exemplares
Weather Bulletin 1 exemplar
Only a Housewife 1 exemplar
Honor Is Golden 1 exemplar

Associated Works

Masterpieces of Fantasy and Wonder (1989) — Contribuidor — 321 exemplares
The 1987 Annual World's Best SF (1987) — Contribuidor — 235 exemplares
Space Opera (1996) — Contribuidor — 230 exemplares
The Mammoth Book of Alternate Histories (2010) — Contribuidor — 201 exemplares
World's Best Science Fiction: 1970 (1970) — Contribuidor — 160 exemplares
Perpetual Light (1982) — Contribuidor — 99 exemplares
A Treasury of American Horror Stories (1985) — Contribuidor — 94 exemplares
Isaac Asimov's Wonderful Worlds of Science Fiction, Volume 2: The Science Fictional Olympics (1984) — Contribuidor, algumas edições88 exemplares
Glorifying Terrorism, Manufacturing Contempt: An Anthology (2006) — Contribuidor — 69 exemplares
The Year's Best Fantasy Stories: 9 (1983) — Contribuidor — 49 exemplares
80! Memories & Reflections on Ursula K. Le Guin (2010) — Contribuidor — 37 exemplares
Women of Vision : Essays by Women Writing Science Fiction (1988) — Contribuidor, algumas edições33 exemplares
Tomorrow, Tomorrow, and Tomorrow ... (1974) — Contribuidor — 29 exemplares
The Alchemy of Stars: Rhysling Award Winners Showcase (2005) — Posfácio; Contribuidor — 28 exemplares

Etiquetado

Conhecimento Comum

Nome legal
Wilkins, Patricia Anne Suzette
Outros nomes
Elgin, Patricia Anne Suzette Wilkins
Data de nascimento
1936-11-18
Data de falecimento
2015-01-27
Sexo
female
Nacionalidade
USA
Local de nascimento
Louisiana, Missouri, USA
Local de falecimento
Arkansas, USA
Locais de residência
Arkansas, USA
Educação
University of California, San Diego (PhD, Linguistics)
Ocupações
linguist
writer
poet
Organizações
Science Fiction Poetry Association (founder)
Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America
Ozark Center for Language Studies (founder)
San Diego State University
Nota de desambiguação
Other sites show birthplace as Jefferson City, Missouri, USA.

Membros

Discussions

Found: Sci-fi book about translators em Name that Book (Setembro 2021)
***Group Read: Native Tongue by Suzette Hadel Elgin (spoiler thread) em 75 Books Challenge for 2011 (Março 2011)

Críticas

Oh, goodness, where to start? There are so many problems with this book.

Firstly, it's so boring. I was recommended this because I like the movie Arrival and linguistics. But honestly, this book doesn't say a whole lot about linguistics, or even aliens.

It was definitely too long, and it strangely had 3 different main plots going on that never successfully came together. The ending was abrupt and unsatisfying.

It's super feminist, which was the author's point. She definitely preferred to hit readers over the head with her personal moral convictions at the expense of the actual story. I was confused about why she chose to make her world a "men are powerful jerks, women are disempowered but strong rebels" scenario. Especially with the way her world was set up (women can't vote, they can't go places without their male escort, etc.), a historical novel (or one set in the Muslim world) honestly could have communicated all that. I think it would have been vastly more interesting to read about a society in which women were the power-hungry abusers and men the victims.

There is a ton of profanity, which I found very strange for a linguist author - you'd think a linguist would enjoy using words more creatively. And, profanity is offensive in general.

On that same note, this book is very anti-religion - and specifically, anti-Christian. The author makes the "evil" men the ones who are "Christian" (though I use that term loosely, because the author doesn't understand the difference between nominal and devout Christians, apparently).

The author made sure to work in the fact that the "smart, brave women" had secret abortions.

There are several sexual references, though no explicit content.
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RachelRachelRachel | 28 outras críticas | Nov 21, 2023 |
This is my all-time go-to feminist sc-fi read
 
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tornadox | 28 outras críticas | Feb 14, 2023 |
Quirky and fun; what a lovely trilogy! it's too bad more people don't know about these books.
 
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leahsusan | Mar 26, 2022 |
This is a feminist dystopia written in the 1980s, set in a future in which women's rights have been taken away and they are completely subservient to men. In this future, linguists are very important as they communicate with the many, many alien species that have been encountered to negotiating trading contracts and space colonies. The main events of the story take place 200 years in the future and follow the household of one of the 13 linguist families, whose children are trained from birth to acquire alien languages.

I had such mixed feelings about this book. For one thing, it took me so long to get into it, for two reasons. First, I didn't think it was plausible that all of women's rights would be taken away in the 1990s by constitutional amendments just because one paper was published positing that women were biologically not as intelligent as men. As someone who was alive in the 1990s, this just does not seem feasible. I can't imagine that even if 38 states had ratified these amendments, that our country would have remained whole after that.

Second, everyone talks like someone in a parody of a stiff 1950s television show. Sometimes, it was laughable. And the men are so ridiculous. I kept getting angry every time I picked this up to read and had to take breaks. Granted, there certainly are men who think this way about women, but in this book, it's ALL of them. And there is no romantic love, or even lust. Really? I get tired of misogyny too, but this goes against everything I know and have experienced of male-female relationships.

But I started getting more into it as I read. The baby-exploding caught my attention. That was a bit of horror I wasn't expecting. Too bad that plot line wasn't developed much more, but I gather that was probably left for the sequels. Then the character of Michaela, the one woman who's mad as hell and isn't going to take it anymore. I really liked her and all the bits of the book she was in. This story required an outsider character to give it some perspective, and she was it.

Overall, the writing was stiff and awkward and aggressively feminist, of its day. It did remind me a lot of The Female Man, in that sense. But it has interesting ideas to present in the guise of science fiction. Overall, I'm glad I read this, if not for the plot or characterization, but rather for the ideas and for it being a kind of artifact of a very particular time in the feminist movement (again, like The Female Man).
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½
 
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sturlington | 28 outras críticas | Jan 24, 2022 |

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Estatísticas

Obras
64
Also by
22
Membros
4,795
Popularidade
#5,238
Avaliação
½ 3.6
Críticas
71
ISBN
134
Línguas
4
Marcado como favorito
15

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