I think we need a new tag.
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If it were up to me, what I would do is make a rule that the item tagged SULTB must be listed on LT through a library source. No manual entry. And if you have two of these that are exactly the same, you have to fix it so only 1 copy exists on LT.
I'm just trying to think of ways to have more accountability.
Maybe an image requirement would help? If you can't find a source, then post an image?
I do have a handful of manuscripts tagged ULTB, if that is offensive, I can remove them.
My rule of thumb is, would a library catalog it? In fact, some items ULTB items I've manually cataloged were then given to the library at UCSB, who then cataloged them. So if anyone else ever came up with a copy, they'd have a library source for it when I did not.
I don't get the private member problem. Anyone or multiple anyones could delete their copies, leaving yours unique. Vigilance is the only cure for that.
I'm also thinking that having too many rules and saying something must be fixed so only one copy shows on LT, and so on, does take some of the fun out of it.
>9 Collectorator: People outside the group must think the tag sounds "cool", slap it when they add a book and it appears to be unique, and never look back even if some check later or even right upon adding would have found other instances of the same work.
10b, I'm sure that's possible, but I don't think that is what happened in staffordcastle's case. His interest in the ULTB tag isn't of the drive-by variety.
9> when you say you want to make the tag more meaningful, can you elaborate? I am thinking that the tag is just used to call out that I am the only person (on LT) that has a particular work.
I have tagged everything where I appear to be the only owner as ULTB. That includes a lot of ephemera (like theatre programs), street directories, sheet music that may well only be ULTBs because no one else cares to add them.
(Although I occasionally have a book like http://www.librarything.com/work/10354372/summary/64049257 that shows it is owned by 2 people but I am the only one listed, so I continue to claim ULTB).
Examples that must be ULTBs like http://www.librarything.com/work/10542005/book/65798610 or http://www.librarything.com/work/11980733/book/65771485 I was only able to add manually.
On your Building Encyclopedias, the other person is (probably) a private library. I mentioned before that I think situations like this should allow for the ULTB and/or the SULTB tag because the private member is unaccountable. It could also be a system glitch, another unaccountable source. (snark)
For your Monumental Java, there's one at Texas A and M. 1912. I haven't looked for the other one but I will in a few minutes.
Both of those are SULTBs!
When I add my books, I think they get added by default from amazon. How do you ensure that they are added from a library?
That's how I found Texas A and M and the University of Michigan.
Collectorator, I noticed that the first time I looked at the list for ULTBs, and took steps to clean up.
At the time I entered the book, I was the only holder, but now another member has it. I removed my tag, but the book has stubbornly remained on the list, which I would consider to be a bug. Moreover, the record immediately changed to say that there were three holders instead of two, which at that time did not appear to be true.
ETA: The record now lists four holders, but says five people own it.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that the tag list is seldom updated - 3months+ for some of the Zeitgeist instances, and they are at the customer facing LT rather than an obscure tag list.
The nature of any title being a unique book is never going to be stable. The first person to catalog the newest best seller can tag it ULTB. But, I really don't see that happening.
Besides that whole List thing is still under construction so I won't worry to much about it, for a while. I think it is more interesting to look at page 10 of the list. I mean "Modesty Blaise The Black Pearl And The Vikings" would seem to be Extra Super Unique Library Thing Book
(But note, unique can be neither super or extra. But, that's someone else's rant on a different thread.)
If Library Thing is about meeting people with common books. ULTB is just about meeting people with uncommon books.
Speaking of ULTBs, I got in a batch of books and already two of them are ULTBs!!
Images should be up in a day or two. Maybe even tonight!
For one thing, some private library is the only one else who has it, which would mean I could count it as an SULTB under my rules.
But, although WorldCat has it cataloged, their only source is Harvard, and we don't get Harvard as a source on LT, so I couldn't count it as a SULTB under my rules.
Two steps forward, one step back.
Maybe it takes a while to update. The other owner doesn't use the tag.
I happened on this thread while looking over the general offerings this morning and I do have a question. This ULTB tag is this just a tag you enter when adding a book or is it something you check off on a drop down menu somewhere?
ALl tags are. There is no LT ability for 'preselecting' tags. TIM believes that tagging works best as an individual experience.
If a user wants to "play" the ULTB game, it is his/her responsibility to search for other copies and combine his/her work with those others. If, after a thorough search, no other can be found, it can be tagged ULTB.
If you already knew that, please accept my apology.
Edited: Also 35 - how do you go about combining what you have with others? I'd like to do that with the BestSF72 since when you look it up separately the version I have does not appear as a cover choice.
Now, to look at my ULTBs, to root out the ones which are not. Quite a few don't have covers yet. Sigh. I'll work on it!