Does your appearance match your type?

DiscussãoMyers-Briggs: All Types

Aderi ao LibraryThing para poder publicar.

Does your appearance match your type?

Este tópico está presentemente marcado como "adormecido"—a última mensagem tem mais de 90 dias. Pode acordar o tópico publicando uma resposta.

1citygirl
Ago 21, 2007, 5:07 pm

From Wikipedia (so who knows how reliable it is):

NFs/Idealists: The iNtuitive in the idealist makes him less fixed on personal appearance. NFs are unconventional and at times even artsy, and wear clothing that communicates their values, which may lead them to appear more like hippies than court-ready lawyers. If a Judger, the NF will take more care of his appearance than if a Perceiver.

SJs/Guardians: dress neatly and conservatively but don't focus on current trends. They tend to have good posture and walk briskly.

SPs/Artisans: SPs tend to dress casually and in sporty apparel. As sensors, SPs are aware of the colors and textures of their clothes but sometimes may appear messy. Some SPs love to feel good-looking and stylish, but still comfortable.

NTs/Rationals. This temperament often ignores rules of fashion, having more important things to concern themselves with, preferring function over all else.

Do these descriptions fit you or others you know? Also, if you have better ones, please share. (BTW, I am awaiting my copy of Please Understand Me II.)

2TheresaWilliams
Ago 21, 2007, 5:42 pm

I am an INFP, and this does describe my mode of dress. I wear my hair long. It is getting gray and I don't color it. I prefer comfortable clothes that sometimes look like hippie clothes. When I was younger I wore fringed vests, even to teach in. I like earrings especially, dragonflies, turtles, and I have a pair of shakespeare earrings that I really like. I buy a lot of my clothes at Goodwill. I like cottons mostly, and in the winter wool sweathers and scarves. I veer between dressing in an artsy way and just a comfortable way. I don't fret over my face and hair. I don't wear makeup. I just pull a comb or brush through my hair and go.

3vpfluke
Ago 21, 2007, 9:22 pm

As a male NT, I do think of function when dressing. My shirts have to have pockets in them. In the winter, when it is cold, I wear wool socks, and if it real cold, I wear wool pants or a wool suit, to keep warm. I wear a sports jacket to work on casual dress days regardless of the weather, so as to have a place to carry things.

But, I do try to match colors, even socks. Doesn't always work, as good color perception in me takes about 20-30 minutes to turn on, and by that time I have chosen, if not put on my clothes.

4chamekke
Ago 21, 2007, 9:39 pm

I'm a female NT who dresses like an SP. Perhaps I'm overcompensating :-)

5citygirl
Ago 22, 2007, 11:41 am

I was in school for a long time; at that time I didn't care. As long as things were reasonably flattering and matched (mostly black) I was fine. But now that I work as an attorney I have to care about how I look. I have to make the correct impression when I walk in the room. (See? Functional.) So...against my natural inclinations I've turned into a high maintenance girlie girl. It's not so bad. Shoes are fun. The part I hate is the time I have to put into appointments.

6inkdrinker
Editado: Ago 22, 2007, 11:48 am

Yes mine does. I've been forced to conform a bit more in recent years, but generally my attire and grooming has been a bit sloppy. (I'm an NF.)

7stevetempo
Ago 24, 2007, 10:24 am

I'm an NT and attire has never been an issue with me until I realized it can affect your progress toward some goal or objective. For example a job interview, or first date, etc. Case in point: I wear corrective lenses and can wear either contacts or glasses. If the situation warrants it I select (contacts or glasses) what I think will be best for what I hope to achieve.

8NativeRoses
Ago 24, 2007, 11:40 am

hmmm ... and where is dressing like a slut on the list? ;-)

9citygirl
Ago 24, 2007, 12:22 pm

I guess that depends on why you're dressing that way. Maybe it's functional (NT) or expressive (SP) or that's the way the people in your environment dress (SJ) or it communicates your values (NF). ;-)

10NativeRoses
Ago 24, 2007, 12:29 pm

lol. i guess i'd have to go with a cross between dressing for expression (SP) and values communication (NF). So that puts me in cross dressing too! Who ever woulda guessed there'd be so much to Myers-Briggs? :-D

11libraryofus
Ago 31, 2007, 5:04 pm

I used to be an utterly stereotypical NT in this respect, often - when I didn't have some practical reason to wear something in particular - managing to get through the day almost completely unaware of what I was wearing. The "whatever's closest" method, essentially, which works just fine if you buy a very limited wardrobe so that nothing clashes with anything else...

But I'm getting better.

Alistair

12bigal123
Ago 31, 2007, 5:59 pm

As an NF, I used to care about what I wore. I used to spend lots of money trying to 'fit in' with the trend. Then, I decided that society is crazy and that I wasn't going to conform. Afterwards, I stopped caring about what I wore. In my first college classes, which were this summer, I generally wore basketball shorts, house slippers, an undershirt, and a sweater b/c it was cold in my classrooms. So, while I can't say I dress like a hippie, my clothing does reflect my values, insofar as I am not enraptured with consumerism to the point that I let it dictate what I wear in conjunction with my non-conformist, 'f' society attitude. ;-)

13citygirl
Ago 31, 2007, 6:03 pm

I miss college, when you could wear pajamas to class. (*Gazing off into space wistfully*)

14bigal123
Ago 31, 2007, 6:07 pm

Bump that, I'm gonna wear pajamas to class when I become a professor!!!

15stevetempo
Set 1, 2007, 4:14 pm

I wear slippers while teaching school. :)

16citygirl
Editado: Set 1, 2007, 4:21 pm

I don't suppose anybody wants to trade for my stilettos? Well, today I'm wearing flip flops.

17seimeis
Set 1, 2007, 6:32 pm

I'm an iNFj, and you might say that I lean towards a more artsy appearance. For the most part, my artsy-ness is very carefully crafted and toned down, so that I look equally suited to a board room or an art studio. People of a wide variety of professions and backgrounds often comment on what I'm wearing and want my clothes, but it's not good to dress exactly like one another. You'd be bored quickly if every other person in your city wore the same thing you did! I have long hair, and prefer natural looking makeup, but I always take time to clean up both before I go out into the world. Now.. whether or not is stays that way in the wind and summer heat? That's another story altogether.

18Enraptured
Set 15, 2007, 7:20 pm

I'm an INFJ, but I lean more towards the NT description given; I don't focus much on appearance. Most of the time I wear jeans and a t-shirt, and I never wear makeup. I've got pretty much no interest in fashion :)

19chamekke
Editado: Set 19, 2007, 3:51 am

"I'm not one of those people who says, 'Oh no, I can't wear that because I wore it yesterday.' If it doesn't smell, it's fine."

- Keira Knightley, quoted in the September issue of Famous magazine along with other female celebrities on the subject of fashion, e.g. Mandy Moore: "This (i.e. clothes) is what being female is kind of about" (!).

I don't know Keira Knightley's Myers-Briggs type, but it doesn't matter because I think I'm in love :-)

20citygirl
Set 18, 2007, 6:09 pm

#19, I know what you mean. Guys do it all the time (and so do I). I like to keep it fairly simple. For example, I don't need a gazillion different pairs of earrings. Tasteful silver, tasteful gold, something else if it catches my eye. A woman can never have too many pairs of shoes, though. I mean, as long as she can fit them in her house. With her books. *looking around self-consciously even though alone*

I was reading in Please Understand Me II that NTs love the "minmax" solution: maximum result for minimum effort and that is my M.O. completely.

#17 seismeis, your look sounds intriguing: unique, boardroom, arty. Do you spend a lot of time on it?

21seimeis
Set 18, 2007, 10:02 pm

citygirl - I base everything on practicality at the base. My profession doesn't afford me a great deal of spending money, so the rule is that all shopping is to be done by system. Only racks marked at least 50% off can be looked at. Items must be at least 75% off if they are to be considered for immediate purchase. That means that most of the clothing I buy is lone items that lack matches, or that have been on the rack a long time, or somehow were misplaced for a while before finding their way back to the sale area. It also means that I rarely am wearing what everyone else is, but somehow.. I seem to have a good eye for balance, and I can look at a lone item on a rack that is marked down to $4.00 and run through my mental library of things I own to place what it would look best with and whether or not it will suit my body type.

I shop very, very fast. I walk fast, I browse fast. I can see an entire mall in an hour, and shop, no problem. So, while I do end up spending time regularly looking at shops, each visit is a whirlwind, and I don't dwell long and hard on items. If it is a color that will go with many things I own, durable material, quality construction, machine washable, nice feeling fabric, comfortable and flattering fit, and marked down a lot, I buy it! If not, I instantly move on. It doesn't take a great deal of time. You just filter by your hard criteria, end up with some things that are 'suitable' and then it's the subject, "Do I like this? Is the color pleasing? Does it feel nice?" And then you put yourself in somebody else's shoes and pretend you are seeing yourself in that item. Sometimes the mental image is quite enough to make you put the item down. *grin* And that mental image is the guide that lets you know what is, and isn't, appropriate for a given situation.

As long as you have a selection of attractive things that you can move comfortably in, you can always throw them together in ways appropriate for any occassion. If you pick things that are slightly off mainstream but still classy, it throws people's perceptions off and makes the items more versatile for many different situations.

Like you, though, I do have a weakness for shoes. They are the item I am most likely to cave and pay more money for, so I keep a tight reign on whether or not I allow myself to go into the shoe department. It's not _quite_ as dangerous as a bookstore (goodbye bank account), but still flirting with danger. You walk in them. They support you. Having well constructed, supportive, attractive shoes is just one of those things it's hard to get around. They can change the entire look of what you have on.

22chainedwind
Set 24, 2007, 7:18 pm

Eh, I'm not sure these broad, sweeping descriptions can really be relied upon. I'm an INTP, and my weakest preference is P (though I've consistently gotten the INTP result) - which would make me an NT anyway - and I don't just throw on random things if I'll be venturing outside. As for "rules of fashion", I'm not quite sure if there is such thing, but there /are/ "rules of common sense when dressing".

Furthermore, I have an INTP/ENTP friend who is, surprisingly, very into the whole fashion thing. Shoes and earrings and nail polish and all that. Another INTP friend likes to turn up in eye-catching outfits at random times, an INTJ friend prefers subdued elegance, another INTJ is similarly into fashion (though not quite as much as the first INTP). There's a certain INTJ acquaintance of mine that wears "nice" shirts and slacks every single day, and I carpool with an ENTP who loves to shop for dresses.

(How do I know this? I've been conducting an MBTI survey. Sample size 100 as of now, but I'm hoping to get everyone in the class of '09. It helps that we all took the test as freshmen.)

23villandry
Out 1, 2007, 5:48 pm

I used to love dressing well for work and having nice business suits, assessories, shoes, breifcase, etc. I liked it because in the begining I noticed that people did pay more attention. It was about credibility and it made me look older. The outfit helped me to feel like I belonged there. Eventually figured out that I didn't belong there.

I think I liked the clothes more than the job.

I'm an NF - I like clothes that have personality, texture. Nothing too far out I guess. And comfort is absolutely necessary. Practical issues are considered if I remember them...I've been known to ruin a good shirt because I forgot to change before starting to paint. Finally, I started hanging an old shirt on the door so I didn't have to think about it - it's just there to remind me to change first!

:O

24citygirl
Out 16, 2007, 2:43 pm

villandry, I used to love dressing well for work and having nice business suits, assessories, shoes, breifcase, etc. I liked it because in the begining I noticed that people did pay more attention.

I remember the first time I visited Ann Taylor on Market St (a big one) wearing a suit and carrying a briefcase. The demeanor of the salespeople was quite enlightening. They really wanted to sell to me. It was kind of weird, and fun. How you're dressed makes a big difference in many situations. I'm a minority woman doing a professional "man's job." It helps if I'm not mistaken for the secretary. Ahhh...the rat race! But I do like the clothes :), but I think about them in a totally utilitarian way.

25villandry
Out 17, 2007, 8:49 am

citygirl ! That's so funny! A business suit makes a huge difference. And, on the contrary, if you want to be left alone while shopping, wear jeans and a t-shirt! What kind of industry/job are you in? My professional background is primarily in real estate development and construction...very male environment, so I can appreciate the challenge.

When I first started in the business world, I was a young, petite blond with big boobs and a baby face...and not surprisingly nobody paid any attention to what I said...it confounded me. People (mostly men) constantly thought I was the secretary. Visitors to the office would even ask me to get coffee! I started thinking my ideas were stupid. But, my sister-in-law helped me. She saw I was loosing confidence and helped me to create a conservative business style without looking too much like a man. Ladies suits back then were very "manly" and assessories were important. I can't tell you how many earings and braclets and watches I've lost over the years - I like jewelry but cannot for the life of me keep track of it so I don't wear it much anymore!

The difference was astonishing. Even at restaurants, banks, etc. It was like the world suddenly saw me as a grown-up. It was a profound lesson for me and I immediately started to watch how quickly I judged others on their appearance. We make rather quick assessments of people on first site that can be hard to rewrite.

People are fascinating.

26citygirl
Out 17, 2007, 12:07 pm

I "practice" law. (Maybe one day I'll get it right.) There are a lot more women than there used to be and law school students are 50% women now, but you still have to manage perceptions. I'm not crying "poor me" and things are a lot better for professional women and professional minority women than in my mother's day. Oh, the horror stories she has. I use my appearance (and boobs) to my advantage, might as well. I don't know if that would have worked so well 20 or 30 years ago.

27tim_watkinson
Out 17, 2007, 1:11 pm

# 4, i thought you dressed like a rooster?

28teaspoon67 Primeira Mensagem
Out 24, 2007, 4:55 pm

Wow! As another INFP I think we must share a closet. I have long hair which I usually just run a brush through. God help me if I have to get "appropriately" dressed i.e. wedding, party. I usually don't bother with make-up and if the clothes are soft, fuzzy, comfortable that is great. Sometimes I think I should have lived in the 60's.

29mpramanik
Out 24, 2007, 8:49 pm

INFP - I was a stockbroker calling on High tech employees (NT's) during the internet boom. At the company I specialized in, many of the engineers had shorts, flip flops. I wore a very conservative suit, pulled back hair, and glasses. If anything I tried to minimize my boobs to make sure i was taken seriously. Amazingly enough it worked very well. I wonder if it really did work well and just wasn't because I am an NF calling on mostly NT's. At this point I will never know.

Normally I dress more like teaspoon67, but I still think if I showed up on appointments like that, I would have had a lot of difficulty closing even one account.

30UtopianPessimist
Dez 9, 2007, 9:46 pm

Works for me! I'm an NT - and function rules. And my definition of function is comfortable and easy (as in no-iron/breathable fabrics). So...basically I have easy clothing. I usually say that I'm a refuge from the sixties (#28 -- I DID live in them, but they didn't last long enough!).
When I go to hairdressers I tell them I don't want to be involved in all this discussion about my haircut - and I don't want ANYTHING put in my hair. I tel them promise that I completely realize that hair grows back, so if I don't like the cut we'll talk about if for the next time! The only rule I give them is that I wash my hair in the morning, then brush it straight back. Where is falls when dry, is the haircut! Works well for me-
But I will also admit...I am an absolute sucker for shoes (comfortable shoes, true, but definitely shoes).

31heinous-eli
Editado: Dez 10, 2007, 2:10 am

I'm an ENTJ whose T/F difference fluctuates; I think that in this case, I'm more ENFJ. I do enjoy making a statement with what I wear, and I do take care with my appearance. Although I don't really shop at unusual places, I never see anyone else dressed as I am, unless it's a lazy band t-shirt and jeans day. Still, I don't see people wearing tees with the same band logos emblazoned on them as the ones I wear. As for footwear, I have an absolute passion for cool stockings and like what I call "shoes of substance." My hair is naturally curly and I don't straighten it proudly, despite the Orange County fetish for flat-irons.

32aprillee
Jan 9, 2008, 11:55 pm

I'm a NT, but close NF and tend to dress with some fashion and personality but also an emphasis on comfort and practicality. Sounds like I've got a bit of SP in there, too... Hmmm!

33historydoctor
Jan 10, 2008, 8:08 am

INFJ: the short answer is 'yes, that's me'.

34peteslibrarything
Abr 27, 2008, 8:30 am

ESFP

SPs/Artisans: SPs tend to dress casually and in sporty apparel. As sensors, SPs are aware of the colors and textures of their clothes but sometimes may appear messy. Some SPs love to feel good-looking and stylish, but still comfortable.

That's me to a t.

Like wearin' the bag of fruit sometimes, too. That feeling of class and power. Love the change in attitude that people have when i do. Talk about power dressing. Surprised that a suit is all it takes to impress. Sometimes its only a tie that changes people's attitude to me.

Useful sometimes, too, he said with an evil glint in his eye.

Prefer comfy daggy, though.

35citygirl
Abr 27, 2008, 11:32 am

What's a comfy daggy?

36peteslibrarything
Editado: Abr 29, 2008, 6:54 am

Sorry. Oz (Australian) colloquialisms. Should read comfy, daggy clothes.

Comfy for comfortable.

Daggy.....not real flash.... oops Ozisms again...ummm....not exactly high fashion, or new, just mainstream, well worn in, usually includes comfy as well.

The standard mental image for daggy is well worn trakkie dacks (tracksuit pants). You don't look a million bucks in 'em (more like ten cents) but you feel great and don't care what anyone else thinks anyway.

Does that help?

PS bag of fruit...suit (rhyming slang)

37Sparrowing
Maio 2, 2008, 10:35 pm

INTJ
As far as clothes I guess I'm mostly NT with a bit of NF thrown in.
I buy clothes for comfort. If I'm not comfortable sleeping in it I won't wear it, is the rule of thumb. Also, I hate ironing, so if it wrinkles easily it ends up in the back of the closet. Everything matches, so all I have to do in the morning is grab a top and bottom.
I show up at fancy occasions looking like a waiter, black and white match efficiently. I do love wearing long skirts and dresses, but they are generally impractical. I hate shoes, bras, and jewelry.
I only buy second-hand clothing, it's cheap and I feel less guilt as a consumer. I refuse to wear clothing with visible labels; I'm not going to pay them and then advertise for them. I express myself with bumper stickers, buttons, and a loud voice; I prefer not to have people reading my clothing. I am a knitter and I enjoy showing off my work.

38JoseBuendia
Maio 12, 2008, 12:27 pm

INTJ (male).

I like clothes that are no-wrinkle (when I use an iron I put the wrinkles IN the clothes!). No patience for that. I like simple, comfortable things, preferably cotton. I prefer loafers and hate shoes I have to tie. And no hats!

39jjwilson61
Maio 12, 2008, 2:18 pm

What's an iron? Seriously, I had to buy one last year to apply the iron-on patches that my son earned to put on his tae kwon do uniform. It was that or sew and I don't have a clue about that. INTP.

40lynnmc
Jun 28, 2008, 6:47 pm

Mmmm...I think besides type there are other factors at work here. I believe that as we age, comfort plays a more important role and we are less concerned with fitting in. It's just not that important to conform anymore. Thoughts?