Spam reporting thread #34

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1lilithcat
Fev 2, 2015, 11:20 am

PROCEDURES FOR REPORTING SPAM

Distinguish between the following, and flag the highest level of the violation:

-- Type 1: Irredeemable commercial spam: make sure to flag the member's profile, as well as the spammy activity. This type includes things selling strollers, pharmaceuticals, live-streaming sports games, porn, and/or trying to create traffic/links to sites for such things. Sufficient profile flags will automatically result in temporary suspension and deletion of the member's activity, so use your profile-flagging powers wisely and carefully.

-- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.

Specific procedures:
-- Overzealous authors or publishers (these fall under type 2): do NOT flag the member's profile. Report to staff here or privately. You can also send the member a polite message pointing them to the terms, mentioning the "no promoting" language, and pointing them to the Do's and Don't page for authors: http://www.librarything.com/about_authors.php
-- Suspected sock-puppetry to promote a book, write fake reviews, and/or stack ratings: do not flag the profile, but report to staff here or by message, so staff can investigate. This is a serious violation for which members can be permanently banned.
-- Profile flags for commercial spammers only (type 1): On the member's profile page, click on the "report for spam" link, then follow instructions to flag the member. Again, this is only for commercial spam, not for "overzealous" authors, publishers, or booksellers, which should be reported to staff instead. See Talk post: http://www.librarything.com/topic/85810
-- Spam or promotional posts in a Talk topic (type 1 or 2): flag the post as an abuse of the terms of service.
-- Spam or promotional groups (types 1 and 2): flag new groups using the "flag this group" link.
-- Spam lists: report in this thread, and flag the member if it's commercial spam.
-- Spam works (type 1 spam): flag the work as spam on the work's editions page, and then vote on proposed work spam. Make sure to read the guidelines before proposing or voting, especially for what is not spam. Voting page: http://www.librarything.com/spam_works.php
-- Spam in a review (type 1), or an explicitly promotional review (type 2): flag the review as an abuse of the TOS, using the red flag.
-- Spam or promotion in "published reviews," or other CK fields (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete.
-- Spam or egregious promotion/advertising in venues or events (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete. Note that authors are permitted to add events for their books.
-- Spam in book links / quick links: post here and/or edit to remove spam.
-- Spam author names listed on a work: No current procedure. Tim has asked us not to change CK to indicate spammers, and not to combine spam authors together.
-- Not sure if it's spam? Post here, and explain why.

Please note that Tim has asked us not to use either CK or the combining system (whether works or authors) for spam fighting.

For more information see these wiki pages:
Procedures for flagging and reporting spam: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Spam#Procedures_for_flagging_and_repo....
Spam works, guidelines for flagging and voting: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/HelpThing:Spam_works

(A copy of these guidelines, for pasting in new threads, can be found here or at the top of previous threads.)

2Lyndatrue
Fev 3, 2015, 12:06 am

Reposting this in the new thread...

Spam profile advert for garage door company

http://www.librarything.com/profile/Garagedoorlondon

(Originally posted by @mmedeiros, here:

http://www.librarything.com/topic/184935#5037833)

3MsMaryAnn
Fev 3, 2015, 12:06 am

Spam profile advert for garage door company

http://www.librarything.com/profile/Garagedoorlondon

9MarthaJeanne
Fev 3, 2015, 9:05 am

Gone already!

182wonderY
Fev 4, 2015, 2:26 pm

It is now!

19lorax
Fev 4, 2015, 2:27 pm

I wish they'd let us flag the obvious spam-probes of random sentences before the links get tacked on. Those are specifically designed to evade automatic filters, and we're supposed to be smarter than automatic filters.

202wonderY
Fev 4, 2015, 2:31 pm

Some did flag. I agree with you, as Tim does give us a lot of credit.

21amysisson
Fev 4, 2015, 2:32 pm

>19 lorax:

I do flag them right away. If it's in "Book Talk" and it's random gibberish and the user just joined, it's a no brainer to me. I wasn't aware that we weren't supposed to flag those.

22Lyndatrue
Fev 4, 2015, 2:37 pm

>21 amysisson: (et alia) I always flag them immediately. I'm sure that's what Tim wants us to do. I swear it...

23MsMaryAnn
Fev 4, 2015, 7:49 pm

24MsMaryAnn
Fev 4, 2015, 7:53 pm

Another Spam profile for career assessments

http://www.librarything.com/profile/mycareerlift

25MsMaryAnn
Fev 4, 2015, 7:56 pm

26MsMaryAnn
Editado: Fev 4, 2015, 8:04 pm

Spam profile. Free parenting videos site

http://www.librarything.com/profile/kidsinthehouse

edited

30gilroy
Fev 5, 2015, 9:00 am

Don't miss the profile too...

http://www.librarything.com/profile/isdfhfyed

31torontoc
Fev 5, 2015, 9:01 am

I was just going to add that- it looks like the group has been taken down from the " new groups" list just now

33MarthaJeanne
Fev 5, 2015, 11:33 am

>31 torontoc: The first flagger takes it off the newest groups list. The second one seems to make the links not work.

If you are the first flagger of a new group, listing it here is the only way other spam fighters are likely to see it.

37MsMaryAnn
Fev 7, 2015, 8:54 am

38Lyndatrue
Fev 7, 2015, 10:11 am

The posts are not visible (but still there). The profile still needs flagging.

http://www.librarything.com/topic/187617#
http://www.librarything.com/profile/Shumaked

39MarthaJeanne
Fev 7, 2015, 2:49 pm

Gone now.

45MsMaryAnn
Fev 8, 2015, 12:31 pm

Spam profile advert for audio, lighting and DJ services (Lithuanian)

http://www.librarything.com/profile/disco4u

48Lyndatrue
Fev 9, 2015, 1:45 am

>47 Lyndatrue: 30 minutes, and still there... :-(

49Mr.Durick
Fev 9, 2015, 1:53 am

>48 Lyndatrue: 40 minutes and I missed my opportunity to be part of the solution.

Robert

50Lyndatrue
Fev 9, 2015, 2:15 am

>49 Mr.Durick: Sunday night is always a quiet time, with not a lot of members to smack down the spammers. It really seemed like there were a lot this week, and especially this weekend.

No worries; there's always more (sadly).

52rretzler
Fev 9, 2015, 8:20 am

>50 Lyndatrue: I can never seem to get there in time anymore. ;-)

54Taphophile13
Fev 9, 2015, 11:10 am

>52 rretzler: Me too. They only show up in the wee hours of the morning now.

55Ennas
Fev 9, 2015, 11:23 am

Gone now!

Wee hours of the morning? It's 5pm here! ;-)

57Taphophile13
Fev 9, 2015, 11:30 am

>55 Ennas:
Yes, most of the spam shows up between 1 and 5am my time. I am just about to have lunch - it's not quite noon here - and I guess you will be having dinner soon.

58Lyndatrue
Fev 9, 2015, 11:36 am

>56 MsMaryAnn: I'm confused about your second link, which just goes to the help page discussing voting on spam works. Did you mean to post the link to the work instead? It doesn't really matter, since the tipping point was reached, and the review and profile are toast.

Just curious, mostly.

592wonderY
Fev 9, 2015, 11:43 am

SPam on toast. What an aroma.

60MsMaryAnn
Fev 9, 2015, 11:43 am

>58 Lyndatrue: I did mean to link the work. I'm glad it's all gone. This one really annoyed me.

612wonderY
Fev 9, 2015, 11:45 am

Question. What is the method for checking profile pages, works and reviews for SPAM entries? Does one just stumble upon them?

63MsMaryAnn
Fev 9, 2015, 12:34 pm

642wonderY
Fev 9, 2015, 12:52 pm

Thanks. I had that thread starred but forgot about it.

67MsMaryAnn
Fev 9, 2015, 4:42 pm

>65 rretzler: Going, going, GONE!

68MsMaryAnn
Fev 9, 2015, 9:08 pm

The person who cataloged this "work" just changed his account and the review to private! I saw the profile and the review. All Spam. Before I could flag/report here the account was changed!

http://www.librarything.com/work/15722226

69Lyndatrue
Fev 9, 2015, 9:10 pm

>68 MsMaryAnn: All gone. :-}

70MarthaJeanne
Fev 10, 2015, 1:49 am

Making it private was rather a silly thing to do, as only the 'book' was still visible, and if someone wanted the product the wouldn't know where to get it.

74Ennas
Fev 10, 2015, 6:31 am

All gone!

78rretzler
Fev 10, 2015, 9:38 am

So...here's a member who's profile is all about commercial spam, but they do have 7 books...someone's getting smarter:

https://www.librarything.com/profile/trailheadnet

Is this one of those potentially "teachable moments"?

80MsMaryAnn
Editado: Fev 10, 2015, 10:08 am

>75 rretzler: through >79 rretzler:

For the record I did not flag all of these profiles as spam. Some of them had no language that could be considered spam. For example
http://www.librarything.com/profile/brendonfleming79.

I did flag those that had spam advertising in the "about me" and "about my library.

81Taphophile13
Fev 10, 2015, 10:29 am

>78 rretzler:
I would be inclined to watch this one for future spam.

About my library: We plan to post and review the books we have used as a service to other people interested in web design.

Library includes The Witch of Blackbird Pond and Johnny Tremain. I really doubt those books helped with web design. Looks as if they hope to use Lt for advertizing and have included a few generic titles.

82rretzler
Fev 10, 2015, 10:59 am

>80 MsMaryAnn: The brandonfleming one, I mistakenly copied/pasted as that was one that the initial link at first led no where, but if you follow the websites - you end up at idzineit.net which is a website marketing company. So...no big deal.

On all the other ones that I flagged, they all seemed like Type 1 spam above : This type includes things selling strollers, pharmaceuticals, live-streaming sports games, porn, and/or trying to create traffic/links to sites for such things. It seemed to me that they were all creating traffic to sites that were selling their services. Most had been around for some time, and had no books in their libraries. So, IMHO, no books plus a link to a site that is selling services is pretty spammy. I could be wrong, just my interpretation...

>81 Taphophile13: >78 rretzler: This is one that I was posting for LT staffers. I was thinking that this was one of the Type 2 - Teachable Moments referred to above, where the LT staffers would take a look, and then perhaps just mention that the About Me is a little spammy?? Same for the https://www.librarything.com/profile/b00kwurm

So...please by all means, correct me if I'm wrong about this - its just my interpretation of the above procedures.

85Lyndatrue
Fev 11, 2015, 2:00 am

Both >83 Lyndatrue: and >84 Lyndatrue: still need more flags.

86Mr.Durick
Fev 11, 2015, 2:13 am

Not 13 minutes later.

Robert

89henkl
Fev 11, 2015, 6:09 am

Gone already.

91MsMaryAnn
Fev 11, 2015, 9:34 am

Spam profile
http://www.librarything.com/profile/Ottawagaragedoor

Coincidence? See post #3

97Mr.Durick
Fev 12, 2015, 1:58 am

All gone.

Robert

98zjakkelien
Fev 12, 2015, 2:01 am

Yep, I noticed. Real quick!

104Lyndatrue
Editado: Fev 12, 2015, 2:39 pm

Esta mensagem foi removida pelo seu autor.

105Mr.Durick
Fev 12, 2015, 10:53 pm

113MarthaJeanne
Fev 14, 2015, 3:46 am

Gone.

114torontoc
Editado: Fev 14, 2015, 9:57 am

http://www.librarything.com/groups/ndtoupholdcorrectint
going back to flag the group leader now
and the new member( what a surprise!) who started this group

http://www.librarything.com/profile/tidfn65sv

120InfoQuest
Fev 16, 2015, 12:32 am

Almost all the reviews on here were added today by new members (most of whom were invited to the same group) and seem to use almost the exact same wording.
http://www.librarything.com/work/1420792/reviews/

121lilithcat
Fev 16, 2015, 12:40 am

> 120

They all have other books as well. And I don't think the wording is all that similar, at least no more so than you would expect from short reviews of a children's book.

I'm guessing it's a class.

1232wonderY
Fev 16, 2015, 12:34 pm

author posting here
http://www.librarything.com/topic/187972
and Hobnob

124Ennas
Fev 16, 2015, 12:49 pm

I cant find the flag thingy. Do you need to be a member of a group to flag?

125lilithcat
Fev 16, 2015, 12:59 pm

> 124

Yes, it says "join to post", so you do need to be a member to flag it. One can always join, flag, and then "un-join".

126Taphophile13
Fev 16, 2015, 12:59 pm

>124 Ennas: Yes, it's a "join to post" group. (And I really don't want to join that group even for a minute - that's just me.)

127MarthaJeanne
Fev 16, 2015, 1:36 pm

I'm happy to unignore, join, flag, leave, and ignore.

Still needs flags.

128Lyndatrue
Fev 16, 2015, 2:16 pm

Done.

That seemed to me like an egregious posting. Same thing is over in Hobnob for Authors. I'll probably go reply to her posting there, and tell her why the other one got deleted.

Also: Ugh. Ew.

129Ennas
Fev 16, 2015, 3:37 pm

>126 Taphophile13: Yes, I saw that. But I thought that maybe I could flag without joining, as flagging is not posting. (I feel no inclination at all to post there.) Anyhow, good that it is gone!

131henkl
Fev 17, 2015, 6:47 am

All gone.

137MarthaJeanne
Fev 18, 2015, 4:21 am

These are gone.

140MarthaJeanne
Fev 18, 2015, 4:39 am

Someone has flagged that group, which I don't think is right before there is really spam in it.

1412wonderY
Fev 18, 2015, 5:04 am

Yes, agree with >140 MarthaJeanne: MarthaJeanne: - I was just posting so more eyes could keep an eye on it

142MarthaJeanne
Editado: Fev 18, 2015, 5:16 am

Three people have flagged it now; really not fair. There is nothing spammy about it, and the only other chemistry groups are both borderline and dormant. If this group stayed in the newest it could have attracted members.

The new member who started it is not a normal spammer profile, but has entered books, some of which have other members.

143abbottthomas
Fev 18, 2015, 5:27 am

>142 MarthaJeanne: I haven't flagged the group either - I try not to be trigger-happy - but http://www.librarything.com/topic/188031 does look like a spammer's toe in the water to me.

144MarthaJeanne
Fev 18, 2015, 5:47 am

I think in this case it's just a new member trying things out. He has been a member for a few days, entered a few books. A lot of new members start groups with no or meaningless topics.

147Lyndatrue
Fev 18, 2015, 11:49 am

>144 MarthaJeanne: (and others) I really wish there were a way to counter flag on groups (there are counter flags for other things, but not for that). The books that new account has added are all reasonable books for that type of world. I'd suspect that the topic is more along the lines of someone testing how things work in general rather than someone setting up to spam. Those topics are usually nonsense phrases, or bits and pieces cut from elsewhere. I'm just not seeing "sdfadsf" as a sign of anything (especially because the bad stuff usually shows up pretty fast).

There is a really weird anomaly though.

Look at CALICUTLIB23's library, and then look at this work (LT says that this is a book that the two of them share):

http://www.librarything.com/catalog/siddartha/favorites

I will say that mostly, people who have a book in common with this user seem to look like this:

http://www.librarything.com/catalog/ryanwlarkin/yourlibrary

Note that there are a LOT of people (I got bored looking) that have only that book, or only that book and one other, and the account creations range over time. BTW, this is not a conspiracy theory in process. Plenty of people also have that book and one zillion others.

I'm considering contacting staff and ask if they could remove the flags on the group. Without further evidence, it seems a bit unkind.

148MsMaryAnn
Fev 18, 2015, 12:31 pm

1502wonderY
Fev 18, 2015, 7:25 pm

>147 Lyndatrue:

I am sorry for starting that. I would counter-flag too, if possible.
Next time I won't post it here until I'm sure.

155Lyndatrue
Editado: Fev 19, 2015, 1:47 am

Esta mensagem foi removida pelo seu autor.

157abbottthomas
Editado: Fev 19, 2015, 2:00 am

Esta mensagem foi removida pelo seu autor.

158Lyndatrue
Editado: Fev 19, 2015, 2:00 am

>157 abbottthomas: Already done, in >154 Lyndatrue:

Still needs more flags, though (and profile too)

163Mr.Durick
Fev 19, 2015, 5:48 pm

Three minutes later, and it's gone.

Robert

167lorax
Fev 20, 2015, 1:53 pm

I've never seen github used for spamming before. That's novel.

172Jarandel
Fev 21, 2015, 5:39 am

>171 Mr.Durick: Don't think your link goes to intended thread ?

175MarthaJeanne
Fev 21, 2015, 6:46 am

Both gone.

177MarthaJeanne
Editado: Fev 21, 2015, 9:48 am

179Mr.Durick
Fev 21, 2015, 2:55 pm

>172 Jarandel: No. Sorry.

191Ennas
Fev 23, 2015, 5:04 am

>189 henkl: profile still there
>190 Mr.Durick: gone

192henkl
Fev 23, 2015, 5:25 am

>191 Ennas: Profile now gone.

197Lyndatrue
Fev 24, 2015, 2:10 am

>196 MsMaryAnn: still needs more flags; others are gone (fingers are tired from flagging)

199Lyndatrue
Fev 24, 2015, 3:31 am

>198 MsMaryAnn: In case anyone notices, the reason that there are so many people that appear to share a work with this account is that a random ISBN was used, and it happens to belong to a Shakespeare work. It's ISBN 0743482743 (for the curious).

203Ennas
Fev 24, 2015, 4:06 am

>196 MsMaryAnn: Some of them still need some more flags.

204henkl
Fev 24, 2015, 4:29 am

>196 MsMaryAnn: All gone now.

2062wonderY
Editado: Fev 24, 2015, 10:47 am

http://www.librarything.com/topic/188257#
http://www.librarything.com/profile/Tookins66

I wonder if the oft-repeated topic title "favorite books for 4th graders" means it's the same spammer returning for another try.

207Yamanekotei
Fev 25, 2015, 1:26 am

208Lyndatrue
Fev 25, 2015, 1:27 am

>207 Yamanekotei: Yeah, I saw that (and flagged). The topic is already gone, but the profile could use a couple more flags.

210Lyndatrue
Fev 25, 2015, 1:57 am

The topic is gone, but this profile still needs flagging.

http://www.librarything.com/profile/mamber89

>209 Yamanekotei: All those are taken care of now that the profile is suspended. I looked at a few of them, just to make sure.

220lilithcat
Fev 27, 2015, 9:50 am

It may be book/library-related, but it's still commercial spam: https://www.librarything.com/topic/188385

I've left a comment on the poster's profile, but I'm not going to flag him.

221amysisson
Fev 27, 2015, 10:48 am

>220 lilithcat:

Was this the Etsy thing for library decorations / banners?

223lilithcat
Fev 27, 2015, 2:11 pm

> 220

Yes.

224MsMaryAnn
Fev 27, 2015, 4:31 pm

227MsMaryAnn
Fev 27, 2015, 8:40 pm

Interior design

http://www.librarything.com/profile/ShreeRaga

and the 2 works cataloged

235Helenliz
Fev 28, 2015, 4:34 pm

http://www.librarything.com/topic/188443

Although I think this is over enthusiastic author, so leave the profile.

237MsMaryAnn
Mar 1, 2015, 4:21 pm

http://www.librarything.com/profile/sarnatransport

Also 1 more flag needed on the works

238Taphophile13
Mar 1, 2015, 4:26 pm

239lilithcat
Mar 1, 2015, 5:22 pm

Apparently this author chose to ignore the message previously left him: http://www.librarything.com/topic/188507

244MarthaJeanne
Mar 2, 2015, 2:44 am

>243 henkl: The works still need votes. The other stuff is gone.

253MarthaJeanne
Mar 3, 2015, 1:54 am

Profile at >250 Taphophile13: still there.

254henkl
Mar 3, 2015, 2:21 am

259MarthaJeanne
Mar 3, 2015, 10:18 am

>258 2wonderY: Spam comes in with a surprising degree of regularity.

2602wonderY
Mar 3, 2015, 10:31 am

I seem to be tuning in today just as they post. Coming back to Talk is my reward for getting tasks done.

267Lyndatrue
Mar 4, 2015, 11:03 am

>266 2wonderY: I'm having a hard time flagging that profile. Yeah, those were two pretty spammy posts, and the only book she has is her own book. She's been on LT since 2011... I dunno, maybe if I'd had more coffee, I could come to a decision. I'm kind of surprised those posts are still there, though, considering the large number of flags (mine included).

2682wonderY
Editado: Mar 4, 2015, 11:07 am

I didn't flag the profile. I left her a note.

I think she knows the value of a second post in a thread, even if it's flagged.

269amysisson
Mar 4, 2015, 11:07 am

I didn't flag the profile either. Thanks, 2wonderY, for leaving a note.

273zjakkelien
Mar 5, 2015, 2:02 am

>272 Lyndatrue: Ah, just I was looking up the profile link, it disappeared! Good.

293MsMaryAnn
Mar 8, 2015, 10:38 am

>292 MsMaryAnn: Needs profile flags

301lilithcat
Mar 9, 2015, 9:14 am

Clearly time to continue this in another topic.
Este tópico foi continuado por Spam reporting thread #35.