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Tower of Babel

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1richardbsmith
Jul 17, 2016, 5:03 am

What is the problem with humans building a city and a great tower?

2madpoet
Jul 18, 2016, 1:00 am

No problem, until they wrote 'Trump' on the side of the tower...

Seriously, though...

Did you read the whole story in Genesis? God told them to go out and re-inhabit the Earth (after the flood). Instead, they all gathered together in one city. Then they tried to build a tower to heaven, thinking that would make them somehow equal to God. So God decided to mess with their plans, and provide jobs in the future for ESL teachers like me.

They were disobeying God, and getting very arrogant and proud. So God dispersed them.

3amysisson
Jul 18, 2016, 1:02 am

Ted Chiang wrote a wonderful story about this. From Wikipedia:

"Tower of Babylon" is a science fiction novelette published in 1990 by Ted Chiang. It won the 1991 Nebula Award for Best Novelette and was nominated for the 1991 Hugo Award for Best Novelette.1 The story deals with what the world would have been like if the universe really matched the geocentric model of the old Babylonian cosmology, where the earth is in the centre of layers of celestial spheres.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Babylon_(story)

4John5918
Jul 18, 2016, 1:08 am

>1 richardbsmith:

I don't think it is about cities and towers. Rather it is a story about human pride and arrogance.

Although (tongue slightly in cheek here) when you look at how dysfunctional our big cities with big towers have become, maybe it had more literal truth in it than we had thought.

5richardbsmith
Jul 18, 2016, 8:24 am

6richardbsmith
Editado: Jul 18, 2016, 9:40 am

Does the Yahwist portray YHWH as establishing obstacles so that adam cannot become like god. (Something BTW which the P writer grants adam - made in the image of God).

- Deny access to the Tree of Life
- Limit years to 120
- Confuse language and disperse

Along with the idea of arrogance and pride, Gunther Plaut Torah Modern Commentary discusses several interpretations. An interesting interpretation he mentions is that while there was disobedience involved in their refusal to fill the Earth (except that is from P), it was motivated by anxiety rather than by arrogance.

"A certain pathos adheres to this interpretation. It senses in the generation of Babel not arrogance but anxiety, not a desire to reach the heavens so much as the need to press together on earth."

The concern of the builders in the text is that they make a name for themselves lest they be scattered.