Is this spam? #10
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I'm putting this here because it is a "Do NOT mark as Spam" situation.
This user looks to have had a major upload glitch and reviews are in as books. Tags are in as books. People have been marking these items as Spam, but they are upload issues that need to be corrected (that is, if the person even still comes here.)
Please don't keep marking this person's stuff as Spam.
(that is, if the person even still comes here.)
Data that horrible, and nothing entered since the original bad upload? No chance.
(It's still not spam. But BeegPanda certainly won't care one way or the other.)
Yeah. I'm sure that happens a lot, with import problems. It's a real shame, and I hope that now that LT bugs are being looked at again that import issues will be on that list.
Off to RSI!
but it seems a legitimate request. System glitch?
BTW This is quite rare. The computer misses quite a bit of obvious spam, but doesn't catch things like this very often. But the chance of it is why each automatically caught spam has to be manually confirmed by spam fighters.
The poster has no books, and just joined today.
Profile: http://www.librarything.com/profile/Robbin_Miller (Please don't flag.)
I haven't made a comment on the profile; I'm not sure what I'd say in any case.
I just don't know.
I'm still undecided on whether to flag the post, but leaning towards yes. Note the description entered for About my library: "Shrewsbury Public Library is a great place that offers you not only books and materials but also interesting program and quality customer service."
I think she's not really trying to hide that those three accounts are all her, but I'm still trying to think of what to say. You're more diplomatic than I; perhaps you want to take a stab?
Wonder if she forgot the password to the other account (the RWendy one), and that's why she made a new one?
Can someone 'splain why? Did I miss something?
I counter flagged all three. Couple more, and that little red thing will be gone entirely.
Those reviews are pretty gushy, but they're still reviews, and I can't see how they're spam, either. Those reviews *are* for the only three books in his catalog, but I see zero comments on his profile from anyone (which might be expected if he'd done any posting). No one else owns those books, and I cannot imagine how his reviews even got notice.
ETA: Oops. Never mind. Just saw >22 MarthaJeanne:. I'll go reflag them.
But I would definitely flag the group (and have).
I want to point out, after reading all those public messages, where she (apparently) won ER books, and then didn't seem to review them...
It seems kind of odd. The group appears (or appeared) to be a pyramid scheme of sorts, although she may not have really thought it through. I think it's more a lack of thinking things through than any deliberate actions. I'll edit my post above to remove the suggestion of flagging.
I'd been planning on a comment on the profile for her (in reply to her public comment to herself), suggesting that her group and the comment could be problematic, and that the group was going to be flagged away.
Oh, no question that that is spam!
I'd put your links in the Spam reporting thread, but he's gone already.
recommending a particular, unpopular book
all over the historical fiction topics:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/167052 (post 35)
https://www.librarything.com/topic/233211 (post 18)
https://www.librarything.com/topic/244667 (post 30)
https://www.librarything.com/topic/124372 (post 35)
Which makes me suspect it's a puppet of the author's account, also created today and with only that work in it
You can give a direct link to the posts, by clicking on "more" under the post, then "link", and copying the URL.
I think you are likely correct, but staff should probably verify.
I've actually put it on both profiles now. The user has expanded to the African American forum now.
"You should also forbid comments that ask for book reading tips."
Is this just a testing post that's primed for spam or is it just someone who doesn't understand the system?
As for the word in the title... It's an alteration of an offensive slang word to keep from offending people...
My stupendous over-analysis was tongue-in-cheek troll IDing. It's spam for sure.
Profile: http://www.librarything.com/profile/pirsos (I'm still on the fence about whether to flag the profile. I'm about to leave the obligatory message for the enthusiastic author/publisher).
Topic in group mentioned (I've already flagged the group, and the topic):
The "book" started life as a paperback. It's 20+ pages long. There's one review, mentioning that it's more like an article in a magazine than a book. It's now free, for the Kindle. It appears not to be worth that. I'm not flagging the book, though. It *is* a legitimate book. Anyone who buys it without reading that single review deserves what they get. Just saying.
ETA: Please remember to also flag the group.
This is perhaps an account just to increase the web presence of their organization, but it's not clear.
It's a personal account for a web designer who says that his latest job was designing an online casino. He has set his home page to the URL for the casino.
About me: America's Foremost Window Covering Experts! Lover of interior design and architecture books.
About me: DBX Software makers of ProDBX and lovers of modern construction and architecture
And he even recognized that the post was Questionable.
"I'm new here so I hope this post doesn't break any rules."
I am in favor of such organizations but do they belong here? I haven't flagged them; I just am unsure if they actually fall within the definition of spam.
Not spammy yet, in my opinion. He mentions his library. Keeping an eye on it.
I've already flagged her cover images as Spam.
>71 gilroy: The author got notices of my flagging her covers. What I'd like is for the event to be removed; but I don't know how that's done.
Okay, so I'm going to TRY to give him the benefit of the doubt here, but he is threading the edge of that line very very closely for my taste...
ETA: Well, I figured just noting the spam covers may not get through, so added the usual template regarding author promotion, to be safe...
Not in my book! (Pun intended.)
It might be an event if it were held at an actual bookstore, or if the author were interviewed in conjunction with the release.
But this sort of thing is no more an event than when Simon & Schuster releases a book. I've deleted it for that reason.
We don't want you to give up, but we do want you to be appropriate. We are glad to answer any questions and help you get set up.
He re-added the link to that promotional video, and that promotional profile comment to himself at some point after I clocked out last night, and, thanks to Spam Fighters!'s help, is now permanently suspended.
I'm sorry for the grief/confusion this one caused. If he comes back in another account, know that it is not with staff's okay.
No, it is not. Authors are explicitly allowed by the TOS to review their own works. "While you can review your own book, be aware that the review will be marked as the author's." (Of course, that last part isn't true.) See https://www.librarything.com/about/authors
That review should get counter-flagged.
I don't see anything "terrible" about that review. There has been discussion about whether Wiesel may have exaggerated in his memoir, and even more discussion about his political views (particular his support for East Jerusalem settlement construction), which many view as hypocrisy. See, for instance: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2010/05/27/open-letter-elie-wiesel/
and topic. I find this very weird.
I'll go leave a question on the profile (guess I qualify as someone).
Profile, for the sake of completion:
I've already flagged the message, and am about to flag the group too.
I thought that looked odd, though he certainly has legit books catalogued.
(Yes, I know I could use Google translate, but knowing how many people here have multiple languages, and how lazy I'm feeling, I'll wait a bit)
ETA: Apparently other people have read it. It'll be gone in a moment:
Do not you live your dreams yet?
This Funny Story will keep you from Ignorance.
For all those who like eBooks, here I bring you the offer by launching my book ➡ Mom, I'll get to Mars !: 7 Learning to Live Your Dreams, just $ 0.99 dlls. Offer of limited duration.
Acquire your copy by clicking here (removed)
Other than the poster having something against capitalization and punctuation, what's suspicious about it?
I agree with you. I think many authors, particularly self-published ones, are encouraged to go to every book-related site and talk about their books. I don't think there is any evil intent.
The topic should be flagged, though, but not the author.
Neither spam or TOS
(And yes, it's painful to read "text" or whatever passes for writing these days.)
That's a strange one, indeed. But not spam, at least not yet.
Somehow, suspect either bored teen or possibly something more nefarious.
Just joined today. Created the following group (I flagged it, because I'm heartless).
http://www.librarything.com/profile/IrfanUllah (I haven't yet flagged the profile, although I did flag the topic/post in his "group").
I was going to post this directly in Spam Fighters, but I am not sure about it. Yes, I was sure enough to flag it, but that doesn't mean I won't remove the flags later on. I would not have noticed this (or his question) had he not filled the "About" section with other works, still visible if you click on About, even though they're deleted.
It's really odd, since this user demonstrates a fairly sophisticated knowledge of the workings of LT (except for asking his question in a place that he probably won't be visible in). He just joined today. Actually, I just removed both flags. I'm flat confused. I'm still leaving this post here. I'd love to hear someone else figure this out.
Why make a new group, instead of looking for an appropriate place to see if there were already kindred spirits here?
Does anyone else recall it from last week or so?
Nope! Must have missed it.
(Actually, looking at the "removed" page, I see a photo with a similar-looking individual, but it's not the same guy. Of course, that would be an author image, not a profile image.)
That or they thought this was the spam reporting thread not the questioning thread.
To me, the link is what makes it spam, at least in that forum. This would, in fact, be an appropriate query in Hobnob or Writer-Readers, but not in Book Talk.
Given Tim's rule that anything that isn't a commercial solicitation can be cataloged here at LT, I don't see why the above was tagged as spam. The review gives details of the item's physical description, but nothing about it says commercial advertising to me.
Might be Hausa, but I was not able to get a clear translation.
Might be author spam. The only book entered was combined into http://www.librarything.com/work/16175226/editions, but I separated the two editions.
Not really sure what relationship this person has to the book, but ad-like text, new member, posting in a topic from 2007 to 2012.
because of the homepage: http://onlinecasinomitstartguthaben.org
Okay, so this one feels like it should be spam, but I'm not 100% sure. The links at the end of the post are both external links, not to anything internal.
Um, not real sure, but it doesn't feel like they are talking about Author or Venue pictures with this post.
One to watch
just joined and flogged his new book on the Club Read site
The posts, yes, the user, no.
If you're reporting spam, this isn't the right thread.
Keeping an eye on it.
Also s/he gets points for posting in 'Name that book'.
Yes, I know that. Spammers have been known to post nonsense or near nonsense and then come back and edit, placing spam material in the post that has had a look-see and passed the first spam review. As I said, it's listed here to check back on it later.
Spammers have been known to post nonsense or near nonsense and then come back and edit, placing spam material in the post that has had a look-see and passed the first spam review.
Yeah, I know that too. This one doesn't feel like a spam probe to me, but who knows.
Is this a legacy library, a troll, or a satire account? Anyone know?
Oops, that was flaggable, maybe.
Personally, my first (second, and third) response is to just flag the crap out of both of them. However, I'm just now finishing my first cup of coffee (yeah, it's late, don't ask), and I recognize that I lack civilization without that second cup.
I'm interested in opinions here. It's a free account (no surprise), and looks like it's just traveled under the radar.
Someone has already red flagged them. The profile page looks as if they are trying to drum up business for themselves—okay for publishers/authors—but this looks different to me. Maybe TPTB should take a look?
This is an ugly mess. I've just made a note on lorannen's profile about it.
The above user sent out a mass notice to everyone who'd reviewed a certain book, claiming to be doing research for an essay. Personally, I erased the message (wish I saved it to give to staff) but it feels iffy to me. Especially since they are new and have no books cataloged.
I understand how someone could hit a wrong button. But why did someone vote yes?
Okay, looking at the "library" of this person, I want to say spam, but need someone else to talk me down and say I'm wrong.
Take a look at her author page:
flaging all of them as spam works as well, including "UBER FOR MASSAGES DELIVERING THE BENEFITS OF DEEP TISSUE MASSAGE" (Uber drivers who give massages?)
ETA: All "books" are manual entry, not found on Amazon or OCLC. Grace Lewis is also unknown on OCLC.
ETA2: just found this title: BRING SPICE AND FUN INTO YOUR CHRISTMAS PARTY WITH ON DEMAND APP CLONE FOR ESCORTS
"It’s mission is to showcase..."
Dammit, there is NO apostrophe in the possessive. None. Zero. Zilch.
I just posted the message suggested by >198 MarthaJeanne:, not that it'll make much difference. I will happily flag the profile if there's even ONE instance of spam, though.
ETA: Well, every now and then, you end up with a pleasant surprise. I got a nearly immediate response to my canned message, asking whether it was a generic warning, or if there was a rule that had been broken. I am always so happy when someone actually appears to be paying attention.
(I also pointed out the typo, because I can't help it.)
About me: Dr. Umesh N Jindal is a pioneer; a dynamic and progressive leader with over 30 years of experience in the field of infertility.She was the first to start specialized infertility services in Chandigarh including assisted reproduction techniques such as IUI, IVF and ICSI. Thousands of babies have been born with these techniques. Her centre Jindal IVF and Sant Memorial Nursing Home in Sector 20 is well equipped with a state of art and ICMR and ISAR accredited IVF laboratory and equipment. Comprehensive infertility services including endoscopy, IVF-ET, ICSI, sperm bank, embryo cryofreezing, ICSI with testicular sperm and assisted hatching are provided at this centre with excellent results.
I think it's just there to give the dissertation site web presence. Take a look at the About me:
"Hello, I am Daisy Simpson, a university professor,and I like to believe that I'm a very good professional freelance writer. Passionate about to writing and charity. Now I work as editor at dissertation help ."
I certainly wouldn't trust paying a writer to do my homework if they can't manage a few sentences without at least 4 glaring mistakes.
And then she mis-spells library.
And that looks like a stock photo.
And I agree. Stock photo.
Just joined, advertising a play adaption of a mystery. (At least in the right groups) but no books catalogued...
"Hi-- I see that you are an active user/sharer on LibraryThing. I'm an entrepreneur developing a social business network that focuses on sharing of activities (including books read), interests, and favorites (all time favorites books) to connect with others. As you are someone that seems to enjoy sharing online, I was hoping that I could ask you a few questions regarding LibraryThing and my app.
Smells Spammy. What think y'all?
By most definitions, yes, but LT's are stricter than most, which is why I'm calling it "very spammy". I've blocked the offender, but given how very dire the warning about "misusing" spam flags are, I haven't flagged them.
I'm also talking with Tim about whether we want to add any specific language to our Terms about such solicitations. I've seen a small handful of them recently, and it would be easier to have it laid out clearly.
Saw this appear yesterday and I just... I don't know. I'm lost completely what this person is trying to do. They have no books catalogued. (Is this supposed to be a list/catalog and they just don't know the features? A let's pretend group?)
Very self-promoting though.
Never mind. Confirmed spam.
Anyone had a profile post from this person? I have had a message thanking me for the 'information I provide' and including a link to "Lucky Patcher APK Download" - not followed, needless to say.
ETA balvinderss has been removed for unusual activity.
and looked at the profile to see why it might have landed there in the first place, and was startled to see the profile picture:
So I checked out his groups. One appears to be a book discussion group, but I can't figure this one:
Posts are very cryptic.
All of the members have created groups that seem to duplicate; some are private.
Are these members scholars?
Or is it a group of Tunisian terrorists?
edit: Okay, I'm satisfied these are scholars. Master GIDN appears to be a school program. What's with the uzi?
I think it fair to say that they don't understand how the site works.
This is an Indonesian library, from what Google Translate pulls up. It looks like they are tracking medical information. I can't find advertisements, unless it's part of the google reviews.
To me, the reviews might be bad, but nothing breaches the terms of service that I can find. But I've been known to be wrong, so came here to ask.
ETA: And now the book that made me look has been voted as spam:
The reviews seem to go to various websites such as
AgaricPro My Herbal. Google translation gives: "AgaricPro fermented herbal products are multicomplex usefulness, a million benefits for health, Whatever the disease, The Only Solution With Herbal Medicine AgaricPro." Looks like spam to me.
I'm not averse to clicking links per se, but I'm not going to click blindly on link-shortener links.
is sending out lots of friend requests.
Not flaggable at this time, but I wanted to have a record here.
ETA: Please note that every review he's made (all on his own books, of course) is red-flagged, and with reason.
But I agree about the reviews.