Spam reporting thread #56

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Spam reporting thread #56

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Editado: Maio 25, 2017, 10:31 pm


Distinguish between the following, and flag the highest level of the violation:

-- Type 1: Irredeemable commercial spam: make sure to flag the member's profile, as well as the spammy activity. This type includes things selling strollers, pharmaceuticals, live-streaming sports games, porn, and/or trying to create traffic/links to sites for such things. Sufficient profile flags will automatically result in temporary suspension and deletion of the member's activity, so use your profile-flagging powers wisely and carefully.

-- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.

Specific procedures:
-- Overzealous authors or publishers (these fall under type 2): do NOT flag the member's profile. Report to staff here or privately. You can also send the member a polite message pointing them to the terms, mentioning the "no promoting" language, and pointing them to the Do's and Don't page for authors:
-- Suspected sock-puppetry to promote a book, write fake reviews, and/or stack ratings: do not flag the profile, but report to staff here or by message, so staff can investigate. This is a serious violation for which members can be permanently banned.
-- Profile flags for commercial spammers only (type 1): On the member's profile page, click on the "report for spam" link, then follow instructions to flag the member. Again, this is only for commercial spam, not for "overzealous" authors, publishers, or booksellers, which should be reported to staff instead. See Talk post:
-- Spam or promotional posts in a Talk topic (type 1 or 2): flag the post as an abuse of the terms of service.
-- Spam or promotional groups (types 1 and 2): flag new groups using the "flag this group" link.
-- Spam lists: report in this thread, and flag the member if it's commercial spam.
-- Spam works (type 1 spam): flag the work as spam on the work's editions page, and then vote on proposed work spam. Make sure to read the guidelines before proposing or voting, especially for what is not spam. Voting page:
-- Spam in a review (type 1), or an explicitly promotional review (type 2): flag the review as an abuse of the TOS, using the red flag.
-- Spam or promotion in "published reviews," or other CK fields (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete.
-- Spam or egregious promotion/advertising in venues or events (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete. Note that authors are permitted to add events for their books.
-- Spam in book links / quick links: post here and/or edit to remove spam.
-- Spam author names listed on a work: No current procedure. Tim has asked us not to change CK to indicate spammers, and not to combine spam authors together.
-- Not sure if it's spam? Post here, and explain why.

Please note that Tim has asked us not to use either CK or the combining system (whether works or authors) for spam fighting.

For more information see these wiki pages:
Procedures for flagging and reporting spam:
Spam works, guidelines for flagging and voting:

(A copy of these guidelines, for pasting in new threads, can be found here or at the top of previous threads.)

Mar 8, 2017, 3:03 pm

>2 Lyndatrue: Oooo! Zombie thread!

Mar 8, 2017, 8:45 pm

Joe Mason wants you to read his book: (Unfortunately, someone posted a response so we can flag the post, but the thread will remain.)

Mar 8, 2017, 11:33 pm

>4 lilithcat: Just for the sake of consistency, I've posted on Joemason's profile (I didn't see a comment already there). Pity about the comment.

Mar 9, 2017, 8:35 pm

"helping small and medium size restaurants to embrace the digital revolution"

Mar 9, 2017, 9:48 pm

"provides high accuracy Bullion tips, gold tips, crude oil future tips, Silver tips, MCX tips"

Editado: Mar 10, 2017, 3:26 am

Chinese university spam
Member already gone.

Group gone now, too.

Editado: Mar 12, 2017, 10:48 pm
member is advertising some universities in Chinese in the " 75 Book Read Group" a lot of threads!
one example of many tonight and more
this person is adding threads so fast!

Editado: Mar 13, 2017, 3:52 am

>14 torontoc: Gone now. Is this the first time you've seen our friends? Fairly frequent, but we get them quickly.

More of the same
Already gone.

Editado: Mar 13, 2017, 5:31 am

Bastard seems to have snuck through the net and is posting after 20 minutes. Mostly through the site specific groups

ETA And finally gone.

Editado: Mar 13, 2017, 9:55 pm

another Chinese spammer

already gone.

Mar 15, 2017, 7:21 pm

Mar 16, 2017, 9:33 pm

Mar 17, 2017, 10:37 am

Editado: Mar 18, 2017, 1:16 pm

>30 Taphophile13: She has changed her topic. It was a long ad for a book. But she doesn't seem to have bothered reading the links you sent. Gone now.

Editado: Mar 18, 2017, 1:17 pm

>31 MarthaJeanne: Oh, well. I tried.

Mar 18, 2017, 1:19 pm

>32 Taphophile13: The change was to a request for help in knowing how to market the book.

Mar 18, 2017, 6:29 pm

I'm going to ask for some counter flags on this one:

It's pretty innocent, and isn't phrased very well, but it's not like he's trying to make money (not as far as I can see, and we KNOW I'm pretty cynical). I don't consider what he's doing to be advertising (although I realize some may disagree).

Profile, for consistency (obviously, please don't flag the profile, either):

Editado: Mar 21, 2017, 11:38 am

I can't quite decide whether to call this an enthusiastic member, or come up with some new term. If this had been posted in Book Talk I might have just ignored it.

It's actually in (at least) two places:

Profile (please don't flag):

I haven't left a message, but I did flag both those topics. I'm trying to think of what to say (other than pointing out that "2017 ROOT (READ OUR OWN TOMES)" is really an inappropriate place to post a request to answer a survey).

Mar 21, 2017, 11:44 am

I wouldn't flag it. It's actually a much less obnoxious survey than most.

Mar 21, 2017, 11:46 am

Honestly, neither group is appropriate for the survey, unless it's been cleared through admin.

Mar 21, 2017, 11:55 am

>37 gilroy: The fact that it was in a second group is what made me uncomfortable. It's innocuous, otherwise, just misplaced is all. I don't think there was any ill intent, just bad choice in where it was posted.

Mar 21, 2017, 10:53 pm

So, with misgivings, I rescued this post from Spam because it wasn't exactly spam. The poster/enthusiastic author has a whole BUNCH of weird books in his library (but others have them as well). I think.

Here's the post, which needs one more flag to vanish.

Here's the profile, and I'm going to leave a longer comment on it.

Editado: Mar 22, 2017, 2:16 am

Editado: Mar 22, 2017, 3:32 am

Chinese university spam Let's get the group as well as the profile. (gone)

All gone.

Mar 22, 2017, 2:04 pm women's footwear, bags, and apparel

Mar 22, 2017, 11:01 pm

Mar 23, 2017, 1:36 am

Chinese university spammer who'll likely be zapped by the time you read this,

Mar 23, 2017, 2:32 am

>48 rybie2: Yes, but we have a new one. Ah, gone, too.

Mar 24, 2017, 10:17 am

Author spam: (promoting a book, though no actual link to buy it)
I've left a message on the profile: (don't flag)

Editado: Mar 26, 2017, 10:49 pm

Evil Chinese university spammer:

Never mind, gone now.

Mar 27, 2017, 11:44 am

Mar 27, 2017, 11:44 am

>54 lilithcat: Was just about to note that account...

Mar 27, 2017, 11:45 am

Mar 28, 2017, 6:47 am

Mar 28, 2017, 7:29 am

>57 konallis: His spam is gone now.

Editado: Mar 29, 2017, 1:42 am

Mar 31, 2017, 6:50 am

Do not remember to make a line of money online easy to play on the mobile phone bonus first time. Get a maximum bonus of 1000 baht, no hassle, play it 24 hours, no cost to travel to the country. Royal-hiro's name is trusted because it has been in service for over 7 years. More challenging than ever

Mar 31, 2017, 2:10 pm

Commercial water leak detectors:

Mar 31, 2017, 5:14 pm

>66 MarthaJeanne: Have to laugh. A "publisher" using Createspace. I bet they charge their authors for publication too.
Also, I thought the whole Milo book thing was dead...

Mar 31, 2017, 5:17 pm

But they're an academic publisher! It says so right here!

Mar 31, 2017, 6:01 pm

>66 MarthaJeanne: I was the last needed flag on the topic, so it's gone. Pity that groups aren't so easy, but hopefully staff will happen along soon enough.

Just what the world needs; yet another tone deaf "publisher".

Abr 1, 2017, 12:40 am

>69 Lyndatrue: We upset that publisher. (Don't flag

Abr 1, 2017, 1:08 am

>70 MarthaJeanne: Yeah, I saw that. Not too often you have someone who is honestly that tone deaf. Man oh man, takes all kinds.

Abr 1, 2017, 4:38 pm

cleaning service for cars, house, driveway, RV's, etc.

Abr 1, 2017, 10:46 pm

Abr 1, 2017, 10:48 pm

gone! yay! that was fast

Abr 3, 2017, 6:10 pm

Skin Care, Hair Care, Laser and Aesthetic Beauty Solutions

Editado: Abr 4, 2017, 11:11 am

Kidney donor spam!
has started multiple groups.

That was fast! all gone now.

Editado: Abr 5, 2017, 9:35 am

Abr 6, 2017, 12:15 pm

Abr 6, 2017, 12:52 pm

>84 2wonderY: That Kottongrammer thing is probably going to require intervention from staff to suspend it. The rest are now gone (so to speak).

Abr 7, 2017, 1:10 pm

enthusiastic author just joined

Don't flag profile; I have left a message

Abr 7, 2017, 9:06 pm

Abr 7, 2017, 10:45 pm

healthcare, nursing & cardiovascular recruiting

Editado: Abr 8, 2017, 1:36 am

Yes, I'm cynical. The link mentioned in this seems to push the envelope, and I've flagged it.

I'm trying to decide whether or not to flag the profile as well.

ETA: No, I didn't comment on the profile. No real sense in it.

Editado: Abr 8, 2017, 2:41 am

>94 Lyndatrue: I flagged both. I think it's an add for the financial service.

ETA Both gone.

Abr 8, 2017, 10:07 am

Editado: Abr 8, 2017, 10:19 am

>96 lilithcat: Add this one to be flagged also (the "author" was busy).

ETA: It's in one of those join-to-post groups, so flagging also requires joining.

Abr 8, 2017, 12:15 pm

>97 Lyndatrue:

Thanks, I have that group on "ignore" so I didn't see that post. "Un-ignore, join, flag, leave, re-ignore"!

Abr 9, 2017, 9:22 pm

Saw this entry in Name That Book - I wouldn't follow their suggested URL!
The "member" does not look legit (

Abr 10, 2017, 1:06 am

>99 Conkie: gone. That topic has over 1000 messages!

Abr 10, 2017, 1:25 am

>100 MarthaJeanne: It was the message just after this one:

She's been flagged, though, and the message itself is gone.

Abr 10, 2017, 2:04 am

Editado: Abr 10, 2017, 9:39 am

16 images loaded to this new profile. A bit of obvious overkill:

wow! That was fast!

Abr 10, 2017, 9:40 am

Editado: Abr 10, 2017, 10:25 pm

Chinese diplomas again

ETA: interesting, per Google translate the profile name means defense

Abr 11, 2017, 2:10 pm

>83 2wonderY: >84 2wonderY: >86 Lyndatrue: I'm very sure I flagged it as spam when you brought it up, but the account is still there and if I flagged it, well, it's not flagged anymore. Any news?

Abr 11, 2017, 2:41 pm

>111 rybie2: Very disturbing to see flags removed. I don't think I've seen that before. I've left a private comment for Loranne, and pointed her back here to your post (which so helpfully links back to the other comments). That account should be suspended, but I'd especially like to know why the flags on it are gone. :-{

Abr 11, 2017, 3:10 pm

>111 rybie2: Well, crap. I'll reflag then.

Abr 11, 2017, 3:27 pm

>112 Lyndatrue: Thanks for messaging me directly—I appreciate it! I've removed the offending account now, so that's one part of the problem taken care of. I would have come across this a little later in the day, when doing my daily members-flagged-for-spam checks.

Here's what happened: the account holder emailed us, and Kristi responded, informing them of our Terms of Use, and explaining that they had been in violation of those Terms. She also removed the flags and reinstated the account, with a warning that if they failed to abide by the Terms from here on out, they'd be permanently suspended.

It's very rare for actual scam/spam operations to take the trouble to email us and ask that their account be reactivated, and, without knowing about the Ripoff Report page linked in >83 2wonderY: , I can see why she went ahead and reinstated them. Flag removal, when we reinstate accounts, is standard. We can still see that the flags were there, should the account cause further trouble, the system just doesn't hold removed flags against them.

So, you definitely did the right thing in flagging it further, and in contacting me. I'm sorry we didn't catch the fact that they were definitely not legitimate the first time out. Again, the vast majority of removed-for-spam accounts don't bother contacting us at all, so when they do, we tend to give them the benefit of the doubt/a second chance. We made a mistake with this one.

Abr 11, 2017, 3:44 pm

>114 lorannen: You know we love you, though. XXOO

Editado: Abr 11, 2017, 3:54 pm

>115 Lyndatrue: Aw, shucks. To be honest, I'd have done the same thing Kristi did, initially. Without the context of the links 2wonderY posted in >83 2wonderY: , and some extra Googling to see it looks like they've got a bunch of spam reviews on places like Yelp, we tend to err on the side of caution/benefit of the doubt.

Edited for proper credit where it's due on >83 2wonderY: . :)

Abr 11, 2017, 4:06 pm

>116 lorannen: I googled the name because the profile had a somewhat legitimate feel to it. The man is good at what he does - until he gets arrested. I can understand why others weren't sure as well.

Abr 13, 2017, 4:22 pm

Abr 14, 2017, 5:38 am

This member has been suspended from the site.

Abr 14, 2017, 11:17 pm

A long paragraph about NGOs including this gem:
As a matter of truth, the revenues objective or menstruation of corruptions likewise cripples the NGO or NPO motion in lots of financial scenarios.

Abr 17, 2017, 9:29 am

more chinese spam! on the 75 books Read Group!

Abr 17, 2017, 11:15 pm

pump installation and lubrication service provider

Abr 19, 2017, 10:56 pm

Editado: Abr 21, 2017, 1:51 pm

>141 amanda4242: The first one needs another flag. The other is gone, baby, gone.

ETA: Oops. Both are gone now.

After looking at her "profile" I'm having a very hard time not flagging it. No, I didn't flag it. Desire and action are not the same.

Editado: Abr 21, 2017, 2:01 pm

>141 amanda4242: >142 Lyndatrue: Sigh.. also this one, which was posted AFTER being warned, so I wouldn't be surprised if there are more.

Editado: Abr 21, 2017, 2:19 pm

>143 rybie2: The third topic and the profile are gone.

Editado: Abr 22, 2017, 7:23 pm

Abr 23, 2017, 3:29 am

"Enthusiastic Author"

(I left a comment on his profile, and then saw that there was already one there, but mine might as well stay too.)

Abr 23, 2017, 6:20 pm

Discuss your all kind of love issues with love problem solution specialist baba ji. They have excellent skills over all kind of crafts and spells. Baba ji resolve your all love stress.

Abr 23, 2017, 6:47 pm

Abr 24, 2017, 6:00 am

Rpeated Chinese spam spotted at-

Abr 24, 2017, 6:31 am

Friend of author spam

Do not flag profile. Apology on my profile.

Abr 24, 2017, 11:07 am

For the sake of consistency, here's the profile mentioned in >154 MarthaJeanne: (and please don't flag, and yes, the rare apology is nice).

Abr 24, 2017, 11:38 am

This member has been suspended from the site.

Abr 25, 2017, 12:09 am

>157 Taphophile13: Ugh. The account is now suspended, but those works will require additional voting to be labeled properly, and to disappear. I'm wondering if we shouldn't call in lorannen to assist in this...

Editado: Abr 25, 2017, 12:26 am

>158 Lyndatrue: If they get enough down votes they should disappear, I think. The account had 8 books listed and my computer was so slow I couldn't list all of them.

It looks like a couple of the books are held by private members. I don't know if that member is another spammer.

I'll give Lorannen a quick heads up.

Abr 25, 2017, 9:53 am

There is a new Korean/Chinese University member who has already been placed in the spam folder, but group may need to be flagged:

Abr 25, 2017, 11:15 pm

Abr 26, 2017, 9:26 am

>170 norabelle414: I just saw this as well!

Abr 27, 2017, 12:07 am

Rainwater Harvesting service provider - stores rain water in monsoon season and makes it available for sunny days

Abr 27, 2017, 9:00 am

Irrelevant post precedes spam post:

Dude is on to the "multiple posts mean thread won't disappear" trick.

Editado: Abr 27, 2017, 9:32 pm

Chinese diplomas

gone within seconds

Abr 28, 2017, 12:42 am

>177 Taphophile13: Those "books" all need one more vote to get the spam marking. I certainly agree that it's the same person as in >157 Taphophile13:

Abr 29, 2017, 5:12 am

posted what looks like commercial links on thread entitled 'US President Donald Trump Fears' at Playing Games and Solving Puzzles Group

Abr 30, 2017, 3:23 pm

web design, branding, logo design, digital marketing

Maio 1, 2017, 11:53 pm

Maio 2, 2017, 8:49 pm

local search engine, training, Oracle Fusion Financials

Maio 2, 2017, 10:57 pm

>188 Taphophile13: and >189 Taphophile13: Flagged them both, went to refresh my cocktail, returned and found them squashed. There may be a lesson here... ;-)

Maio 2, 2017, 11:25 pm

>190 rybie2:

Drown 'em in alcohol?

Maio 3, 2017, 11:01 am

Maio 4, 2017, 6:04 pm

"We know that purchasing a dream property in ready to move in flats in noida is one of the most rough and tumble filled decision as we have to be very vigilant about each and every fact."

Editado: Maio 5, 2017, 12:02 pm
This account has created dozens of diploma spam "lists". The spam lists are repressed on the home page but I found them through typing in the URL directly when looking for a different list. Examples:

ETA: they're dead now and so none of those list links work anymore.

Maio 7, 2017, 9:43 pm

Maio 7, 2017, 11:07 pm

Editado: Maio 9, 2017, 10:18 am

>203 lilithcat: Here's the thing (and it's early for me, with not yet enough caffeine); when an "author" knows enough to create a group that is "join to post" (making it more difficult to flag the topic), I'm wondering if a note on the profile is enough. She has precisely ONE book (hers), and that book is not really available at any of the major booksellers, only from secondary markets (I went to find it). What's funny (to me, I'm heartless) is that the book is listed on the secondary markets for more money than for new copies).

Her newest effort (the one that the group was created for) isn't on the site at all (but is on Amazon, published in February).

I dunno. I hope she's just a drive by, but the group creation implies a bit of thought went behind it. Maybe.

Maio 9, 2017, 10:51 am

>205 Lyndatrue:

It may not be enough in the long run, but as Tim has asked us not to flag author profiles, I generally leave it alone unless the behavior gets really egregious (if she continues to post, for example, I'd likely flag her).

I'd rather wait a bit than flag someone into oblivion prematurely.

Maio 9, 2017, 12:03 pm

>206 lilithcat: I don't really disagree with the idea of giving authors a chance (or so), and she hasn't yet shown up again. It's a pity that it's so hard for most new authors to get a start, and I'd say that self-publishing's growth has made it harder, not easier.

Nothing like adequate caffeination to improve my personality a bit. ;-}

Maio 11, 2017, 8:49 am

Editado: Maio 12, 2017, 7:25 am

Maio 12, 2017, 7:23 am

Maio 12, 2017, 9:34 am

Overzealous author:
Do not flag: (I've left a message. I copied someone else's message they left on a different author's profile; I hope that's okay)

Maio 12, 2017, 9:56 am

>215 norabelle414: Looks like it's the standard message we give, so should be fine.

Maio 12, 2017, 11:43 am

>212 gilroy: For reference, the group is gone, and the account has been suspended (which is as it should be). That wasn't an enthusiastic author; I usually think of an enthusiastic author as someone who learns from their mistake, and (every now and again) actually becomes a contributing member on the site. At the very least, they learn that LT isn't a venue for authors to push books, and don't do it again.

When someone makes a join-to-post group, it implies a level of expertise that says they've made an effort to read (at least some of) the rules, and to do it twice? Nope nope nope.

Glad she's gone.

Maio 12, 2017, 12:05 pm

>217 Lyndatrue: When I first created the post, I hadn't found the evidence of a previous chiding, but didn't change the title on it...

Maio 17, 2017, 11:24 pm

Editado: Maio 19, 2017, 10:46 am

Well, it isn't exactly a new author, but it still seems a drive by of sorts:

(Profile, please don't flag, etc etc)

I dunno. I thought about this one for a bit, but then I flagged the topic, and left a message on the profile.

ETA: I see that cecrow has responded on the thread.

Maio 19, 2017, 11:33 am

I hadn't realised that I was breaking the rules for posting, my fault but thanks for flagging that up to me. Sorry anyway !

Editado: Maio 19, 2017, 9:59 pm

more chinese spam about universities- just started! from

here is one example but they are coming fast and furious at the 75 Books Read Group

Maio 21, 2017, 8:49 pm

To staff: could someone clean out (delete) the "delete me" section on quick links?

It's been accumulating, but in the last few days there's an author that has added or changed at least 20 something quick links to point to her own books. I've cleaned up and reverted the ones that she changed, and marked the duplicates for deletion (also deleting all the URLs that go to her works). I found a couple other old cases of the same by other authors in the process.

Editado: Maio 23, 2017, 8:14 am

This "koolfrogs" fellow is trying to flog a particular book, but failing miserably as he can't get the touchstones right.

He wants to point at this:

Editado: Maio 23, 2017, 8:37 am

more chinese spam

there are a bunch of groups started as well
by - I'm not sure what these groups are for as I don't speak or read Chinese- so I didn't flag this person

Maio 23, 2017, 8:56 am

>230 torontoc: The group descriptions themselves look like spam, with a conglomeration of Chinese and Latin characters and the odd special character.

Maio 23, 2017, 8:57 am

>229 Cecrow:

Is there any reason to think he is anything more than an obsessive fan?

Editado: Maio 23, 2017, 9:15 am

>232 lilithcat:, I'd argue that in neither instance did his recommendation have much to do with the topic at hand. Especially that first one.

Edit: He's still at it.
Equating it with The Name of the Wind as a "favourite fantasy novel no one has ever heard of". 10,000 LTers disagree.

Maio 23, 2017, 9:00 am

>232 lilithcat:

Just joined.
First book he added.
Only member with the book.

Probably the author.

Editado: Maio 23, 2017, 9:07 am

>232 lilithcat: He's also flogging it in threads that are specific to other series.

Link to profile, for the sake of completion.

Maio 23, 2017, 9:14 am

"Probably" doesn't get a flag from me, particularly when it's based on those factors. Insufficient evidence.

Maio 23, 2017, 9:25 am

>235 gilroy: I left him a note.

Maio 23, 2017, 10:54 am

For the record, koolfrogs was here too:

Maio 23, 2017, 1:33 pm

Author looking for reviews:

I've left a comment on her profile:

Maio 23, 2017, 2:11 pm

Maio 23, 2017, 2:19 pm

>242 Taphophile13:

That's so weird. Why would you post in a Challenge group from 2013? Very strange.

Maio 23, 2017, 3:35 pm

world class supplier of energized pyramids and related products

Maio 25, 2017, 5:19 pm

disease management and personalized medicine

Maio 25, 2017, 8:49 pm

top tech gigs: social media, you tube, SEO

Maio 25, 2017, 10:31 pm

About time for a new thread!
Este tópico foi continuado por Spam reporting thread #57.