Spam reporting thread #56
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Distinguish between the following, and flag the highest level of the violation:
-- Type 1: Irredeemable commercial spam: make sure to flag the member's profile, as well as the spammy activity. This type includes things selling strollers, pharmaceuticals, live-streaming sports games, porn, and/or trying to create traffic/links to sites for such things. Sufficient profile flags will automatically result in temporary suspension and deletion of the member's activity, so use your profile-flagging powers wisely and carefully.
-- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.
-- Overzealous authors or publishers (these fall under type 2): do NOT flag the member's profile. Report to staff here or privately. You can also send the member a polite message pointing them to the terms, mentioning the "no promoting" language, and pointing them to the Do's and Don't page for authors: http://www.librarything.com/about_authors.php
-- Suspected sock-puppetry to promote a book, write fake reviews, and/or stack ratings: do not flag the profile, but report to staff here or by message, so staff can investigate. This is a serious violation for which members can be permanently banned.
-- Profile flags for commercial spammers only (type 1): On the member's profile page, click on the "report for spam" link, then follow instructions to flag the member. Again, this is only for commercial spam, not for "overzealous" authors, publishers, or booksellers, which should be reported to staff instead. See Talk post: http://www.librarything.com/topic/85810
-- Spam or promotional posts in a Talk topic (type 1 or 2): flag the post as an abuse of the terms of service.
-- Spam or promotional groups (types 1 and 2): flag new groups using the "flag this group" link.
-- Spam lists: report in this thread, and flag the member if it's commercial spam.
-- Spam works (type 1 spam): flag the work as spam on the work's editions page, and then vote on proposed work spam. Make sure to read the guidelines before proposing or voting, especially for what is not spam. Voting page: http://www.librarything.com/spam_works.php
-- Spam in a review (type 1), or an explicitly promotional review (type 2): flag the review as an abuse of the TOS, using the red flag.
-- Spam or promotion in "published reviews," or other CK fields (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete.
-- Spam or egregious promotion/advertising in venues or events (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete. Note that authors are permitted to add events for their books.
-- Spam in book links / quick links: post here and/or edit to remove spam.
-- Spam author names listed on a work: No current procedure. Tim has asked us not to change CK to indicate spammers, and not to combine spam authors together.
-- Not sure if it's spam? Post here, and explain why.
Please note that Tim has asked us not to use either CK or the combining system (whether works or authors) for spam fighting.
For more information see these wiki pages:
Procedures for flagging and reporting spam: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Spam#Procedures_for_flagging_and_repo....
Spam works, guidelines for flagging and voting: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/HelpThing:Spam_works
(A copy of these guidelines, for pasting in new threads, can be found here or at the top of previous threads.)
Member already gone.
Group gone now, too.
Bastard seems to have snuck through the net and is posting after 20 minutes. Mostly through the site specific groups
ETA And finally gone.
created spam group
multiple threads in spam group
It's pretty innocent, and isn't phrased very well, but it's not like he's trying to make money (not as far as I can see, and we KNOW I'm pretty cynical). I don't consider what he's doing to be advertising (although I realize some may disagree).
Profile, for consistency (obviously, please don't flag the profile, either):
It's actually in (at least) two places:
Profile (please don't flag):
I haven't left a message, but I did flag both those topics. I'm trying to think of what to say (other than pointing out that "2017 ROOT (READ OUR OWN TOMES)" is really an inappropriate place to post a request to answer a survey).
Here's the post, which needs one more flag to vanish.
Here's the profile, and I'm going to leave a longer comment on it.
link is with the profile picture
Never mind, gone now.
Profile (don't flag): https://www.librarything.com/profile/joshuamwoodard. I've left a note.
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Also, I thought the whole Milo book thing was dead...
Just what the world needs; yet another tone deaf "publisher".
has started multiple groups.
That was fast! all gone now.
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Don't flag profile; I have left a message
I'm trying to decide whether or not to flag the profile as well.
ETA: No, I didn't comment on the profile. No real sense in it.
ETA Both gone.
ETA: It's in one of those join-to-post groups, so flagging also requires joining.
Thanks, I have that group on "ignore" so I didn't see that post. "Un-ignore, join, flag, leave, re-ignore"!
The "member" does not look legit (https://www.librarything.com/profile/Johanna.Paul).
wow! That was fast!
ETA: interesting, per Google translate the profile name means defense
It's very rare for actual scam/spam operations to take the trouble to email us and ask that their account be reactivated, and, without knowing about the Ripoff Report page linked in >83 2wonderY: , I can see why she went ahead and reinstated them. Flag removal, when we reinstate accounts, is standard. We can still see that the flags were there, should the account cause further trouble, the system just doesn't hold removed flags against them.
So, you definitely did the right thing in flagging it further, and in contacting me. I'm sorry we didn't catch the fact that they were definitely not legitimate the first time out. Again, the vast majority of removed-for-spam accounts don't bother contacting us at all, so when they do, we tend to give them the benefit of the doubt/a second chance. We made a mistake with this one.
Edited for proper credit where it's due on >83 2wonderY: . :)
the spam content is with the profile picture
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spam is in profile images
and spam work
more chinese spam! on the 75 books Read Group!
ETA: Oops. Both are gone now.
After looking at her "profile" I'm having a very hard time not flagging it. No, I didn't flag it. Desire and action are not the same.
https://www.librarything.com/topic/255552# (Join to Post)
(Left note on profile)
Do not flag profile. Apology on my profile.
It looks like a couple of the books are held by private members. I don't know if that member is another spammer.
I'll give Lorannen a quick heads up.
gone within seconds
is adding Chinese diploma spam as "books" along with "reviews"
This appears to be >157 Taphophile13: returning.
posted what looks like commercial links on thread entitled 'US President Donald Trump Fears' at Playing Games and Solving Puzzles Group
has started several spam groups.
This account has created dozens of diploma spam "lists". The spam lists are repressed on the home page but I found them through typing in the URL directly when looking for a different list. Examples:
ETA: they're dead now and so none of those list links work anymore.
I've left a message on her profile: https://www.librarything.com/profile/Ritasullivan
(Venues and images are now gone.)
Her newest effort (the one that the group was created for) isn't on the site at all (but is on Amazon, published in February).
I dunno. I hope she's just a drive by, but the group creation implies a bit of thought went behind it. Maybe.
It may not be enough in the long run, but as Tim has asked us not to flag author profiles, I generally leave it alone unless the behavior gets really egregious (if she continues to post, for example, I'd likely flag her).
I'd rather wait a bit than flag someone into oblivion prematurely.
Nothing like adequate caffeination to improve my personality a bit. ;-}
https://www.librarything.com/groups/youcanfly2 (Join to Post/Flag)
For reference, This is her SECOND offense:
First offense >145 gilroy:
When someone makes a join-to-post group, it implies a level of expertise that says they've made an effort to read (at least some of) the rules, and to do it twice? Nope nope nope.
Glad she's gone.
(Profile, please don't flag, etc etc)
I dunno. I thought about this one for a bit, but then I flagged the topic, and left a message on the profile.
ETA: I see that cecrow has responded on the thread.
It's been accumulating, but in the last few days there's an author that has added or changed at least 20 something quick links to point to her own books. I've cleaned up and reverted the ones that she changed, and marked the duplicates for deletion (also deleting all the URLs that go to her works). I found a couple other old cases of the same by other authors in the process.
He wants to point at this: https://www.librarything.com/work/19595458/141702206
Is there any reason to think he is anything more than an obsessive fan?
Edit: He's still at it.
Equating it with The Name of the Wind as a "favourite fantasy novel no one has ever heard of". 10,000 LTers disagree.
First book he added.
Only member with the book.
Probably the author.
That's so weird. Why would you post in a Challenge group from 2013? Very strange.