Group read: Assassin's Quest by Robin Hobb - Farseer trilogy

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Group read: Assassin's Quest by Robin Hobb - Farseer trilogy

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1souloftherose
Editado: Maio 2, 2018, 6:15am

Welcome to our group read of Robin Hobb's Realm of the Elderlings series. This is the thread to discuss Assassin's Quest, the third book in the series, in May. This concludes the first trilogy of the Elderlings series.

Here's a link back to the main group read organisation thread with a full series listing and timetable.



Please use the spoiler tags (<spoiler>spoilery comments</spoiler>) and perhaps also include the chapter in bold so people who are reading along know whether it's safe to read the spoilers.

2Arifel
Maio 5, 2018, 4:39am

Woo! I started a couple of days ago and have just finished chapter five. Like the first two, this is a reread of a book I loved as a teenager, but haven't read since, so it's always interesting to see what has changed from my hazy, rose-tinted memories.

... for one thing, I didn't remember the "am I MAN or am I WOLF" agonising being quite so annoying the first time around. To be fair, Nighteyes is giving terrible advice most of the time (though it's not his fault!) and he's literally all Fitz has got at this point aside from some well meaning but useless minstrels.

3archerygirl
Maio 7, 2018, 11:30am

Oh gosh, it's May! I'd lost track! Thanks for the reminder :-)

4souloftherose
Maio 14, 2018, 4:54pm

I have made a very slow start on this - really struggling with Fitz for the first few chapters (currently up to chapter five).

Some thoughts whilst reading:

Chapter One: The description when Fitz was seeing himself in the mirror for the first time reminded me of the comments on the Royal Assassin thread - are the Farseers white? It's a bit hard to tell because Fitz is still seeing himself as a wolf but 'his coat was dark like Burrich's' made me think the Farseers are more dark-skinned than the pictures above show. I hadn't noticed that before.

Chapter Two: I felt really frustrated with Fitz here. But a couple of comments made by Chade and Burrich I thought explained some of the frustrating behaviours Fitz exhibited in earlier books.

"Chade says you have been my boy too long. Chade's boy, Verity's boy, even Patience's boy. That we kept you a boy and looked after you too much. He believes that when a man's decisions came to you, you made them as a boy. Impulsively. Intending to be right, intending to be good. But intentions are not good enough."

And later:

"I think you decide as an animal would. Always in the now, with never a thought for tomorrow or what you recall from yesterday."


>2 Arifel: Yes, that's also annoying me!

5souloftherose
Maio 20, 2018, 3:56pm

Just over half-way through now in Chapter Twenty-One. I started enjoying this a lot more after Chapter Nine when Fitz abandoned his attempt to kill Regal (who could have forseen that would go wrong?) and started interacting with other people again. Still pondering over whether Will was responsible for the entire attempt to assassinate Regal or just confusing Fitz during the attempt?

6humouress
Editado: Jul 11, 2018, 4:56am

I am waaay behind and have just got upto chapter 10, about a quarter of the way through. This book, like most of the series, is a re-read for me but I think the majority of my memories come from the first book. Though I do remember things happened in the Mountain Kingdom, so maybe when/ if we get there it’ll stir more memories up.

For now, things are interesting but I have to tear myself away as RL is interfering...

ETA well, we got some explanation of Wit, Skill and Old Blood. I hope we revisit that.

ETA: I’ve lost track again, but I think Fitz is about 16-18ish now? We had this discussion before. Does anyone remember?

7humouress
Jul 11, 2018, 6:35am

One thing I was never sure about was the point in time at which Fitz writes the prefaces to each chapter. He seems to indicate he's reasonably old and looking back on his life, especially with all the twinges he mentions but it's hard to be sure.

I suspect Hobb only meant to set this trilogy in Buck with Fitz & associates, but the third trilogy (if I remember correctly) sort of messes up the idea that he's looking back from lonely old age. But I could be wrong; I'll see when I get there.

8humouress
Jul 16, 2018, 1:00am

So, still thinking about ages, if Fitz is about 18, that would make his father mid to late thirties with Patience a bit younger than that. Burrich would be about the same age as Chivalry and Chade might be in his sixties.

Much like Lady Capulet (who is about 28 in Romeo and Juliet) I envisage Patience as about ten to twenty years older than she actually must be but she’s in the prime of life while pulling together the defence of Buck.

And I can’t remember Fitz actually assassinating anyone at the behest of the royal family, in amongst all the welter of action and detail.

9humouress
Editado: Jul 16, 2018, 10:31pm

I’m about two thirds of the way through now, on the trip up through the Mountains. I like the way Fitz can almost feel the ancient trees.
I had never thought to be disdained by a tree.
And he still has a lot of growing up to do *sigh*:
I accepted their ridicule by sulking manfully. They ignored that, too.

ETA: I’ve got my own little boys. And still one more week of holidays *groan* My sympathy is not with Fitz :0)

10humouress
Jul 18, 2018, 9:06am

Ooh. I found a dragon.

11humouress
Editado: Jul 19, 2018, 7:40am

Well, I've finished. I wish Regal could have lasted a bit longer - but maybe he would have turned into another Galen. It just goes to show, when you break past the fear and hatred, there's not really very much there.

ETA : I realise that the time at which Fitz writes the chapter prefaces, it's not much later than the end of the story, so he's maybe in his mid to late twenties? Not so very old.

12souloftherose
Ago 1, 2018, 3:00pm

Sorry, Nina - I totally lost track of this thread.

>6 humouress: Yes, 16-18 sounds about right to me for this book.

>8 humouress: I'm not sure about his father's age though - maybe mid 40s (if he'd lived). I could understand that Prudence in her 40s might seem quite old to a teenager.

>11 humouress: 'ETA : I realise that the time at which Fitz writes the chapter prefaces, it's not much later than the end of the story, so he's maybe in his mid to late twenties? Not so very old.'

Yes, I think when I started reading the trilogy I got the impression Fitz was writing the chapter prefaces much later but I wouldn't say more than 5 years had passed putting him in his early 20s. I think it's his focus on his injuries and health problems in the prefaces that made me assume he was much older. I think he feels old and weary in himself but I'm not sure if that's how other people see him.

After 3 books I was happy to be rid of Regal :-)

13humouress
Editado: Out 7, 2018, 1:53am

'After 3 books I was happy to be rid of Regal :-)'

We could have savoured his comeuppance a bit longer >0) *evil grin*

14humouress
Jan 7, 2019, 7:00am

>12 souloftherose: I formed the impression that Burrich or someone said that Chivalry was about Fitz's age or about 19-ish when he met Fitz's mother. (sorry - must dash)