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Adertising groups in other groups

Dez 6, 2020, 3:04 pm

I'm just curious what we see as proper when it comes to advertising groups in other groups. If they were similar in nature (like a fantasy fiction group in another fiction group) I guess I can see. But how similar? And how much do we allow before we start seeing it as spam and flagging?

Or is it up to the group moderator to make the call? (even though they can do nothing to remove said post)

Dez 6, 2020, 3:13 pm

It is certainly very annoying. In this case I had already ignored the group being advertised.

Dez 6, 2020, 3:23 pm

>1 gilroy:

It's obnoxious.

I don't know that it's spam/flaggable, but I do think the best practice would be to let the moderators of the other groups make the call.

Dez 6, 2020, 4:52 pm

Annoying, yes, but manageable. I just ignored (red-Xed) the invitations, and there's nothing more that needs to be done.
In the case of the oft-sprouting book discussion groups, I'll select the first of the dozens of newly created messages, follow it back to the group, and select: ignore.

Editado: Dez 6, 2020, 11:19 pm

Are we talking about a specific spam in a specific group?

Fwiw I was going to spread the word about a mystery group read in one group amongst several other mystery groups. That doesn't go too far does it?

Editado: Dez 6, 2020, 8:03 pm

>5 Crypto-Willobie: I think this thread was prompted by a small number of posts (one per group) in other history-related groups by someone trying to restart another history-related group (because the original one under that name with hundreds of members was recently abruptly deleted by its former owner, and Tim so far hasn't followed through on his 2009 decision that he would undelete and reassign any substantial group that happened to). It seemed innocuous to me, though there never should have been a need for such posts (trying to find the lost members of the deleted group) in this particular case.

Dez 6, 2020, 8:14 pm

>6 Opteryx: Do we know why the member deleted the group?

Dez 6, 2020, 8:17 pm

>7 bernsad:

No clue.

The person who started the new group said that he reached out to the old group's creator, but got no response.

Dez 6, 2020, 11:08 pm

>8 lilithcat: That's unfortunate.

Editado: Dez 7, 2020, 2:12 am

>5 Crypto-Willobie: The thing is that if you use All Topics you get a list of duplicate posts. One is fine, two I can see, but five or six identical posts is really a pain. The people who post several identical or similar messages in all sorts of groups are usually author spammers.

Dez 7, 2020, 6:14 am

>10 MarthaJeanne: I wish it was one or two. At last count it was 14.

Editado: Dez 7, 2020, 7:28 am

Obviously I have most of the groups he advertised in on ignore. I 'only' saw five or six. Those weren't on ignore because they had had no posts for years. What is the point of advertising in a group that is long since dead?

Dez 7, 2020, 8:38 am

>11 gilroy: Oh, geez, that's way more than I had seen. That is excessive.

Dez 7, 2020, 9:57 am

I really don't see what the big 'pain' is. Just ignore the ones you don't want to look at. It's not like they're going to recur 24/7.
And they were done for a coherent purpose; they're not 'spam'.

We do need to protect Lt, but sometimes we need to lighten up too.

Dez 7, 2020, 10:49 am

>14 Crypto-Willobie: thus the reason for asking the original question. When does it become excessive? How close or far from the subject are they allowed to stray?

I mean a group for history may or may not be good for a group about railroads.
But a group about history could be good for a group focused on the US Civil War.

Dez 7, 2020, 11:02 am

One of the groups was one on Aviation that hadn't had a message since 2011.

Dez 7, 2020, 11:09 am

>16 MarthaJeanne:

It doesn't matter how long it's been since they had a post -- what the poster was probably looking at was they had 62 members who would see the invitation. I suspect the inviter used 'history' as a keyword to search for Groups and Aviation was just one that came up.

I just don't see the point of getting riled about this.

Dez 7, 2020, 11:53 am

It's a one-time response to a very unusual situation. I'd let it slide.

Editado: Dez 7, 2020, 12:53 pm

This particular situation was one-time, but Crypto-Willobie expressed interest in promoting a mystery reading activity in other mystery-related groups, so it might be helpful to get a better idea of what the threshold is to not annoy people so much that it prompts complaints like this thread again. This is all regarding posts with nothing to gain but trying to build up community interaction on LT, not commercial/author spam.

Only post in a certain number of top relevant groups (perhaps 5?), all right after each other to get it over with?

Post in all the relevant groups, but wait a couple days after every few posts (e.g. 5 again), so that they don't all clog the All Topics list at the same time?

Only post in a certain number of top relevant groups, but wait a day or two after each post?


Editado: Dez 8, 2020, 5:29 pm

A message in two or three relevant groups? No problem.

A message adapted to provide something (maybe unique external links or factoids) in each of several groups where many active members will likely see duplicates? Sure.

Over a dozen messages saying the same thing in groups with mostly the same members? Uh... I would not have good feelings about the new group's moderator. The duplicate posts would come off as extremely inconsiderate.

(I don't remember seeing any of the recent history group posts so don't know what happened to inspire this topic.)

Dez 7, 2020, 2:46 pm

>17 Crypto-Willobie: It was a question requesting information. The only riling by the question itself would be your complains.
Just answer the question: What would you see as excessive?

Dez 7, 2020, 7:12 pm

>21 gilroy:

My riling comments were not referring specifically to you.
I don't see how there can really be a 'rule' about when repeat posting can be excessive. It's a case by case judgement call, and one of the factors must be the intent of the poster. I don't see any ill intent here.