How to mark non-books as 'not a book'?
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1tmrps
Basically the title.
I stumbled upon two separate authors last night who both have a book that is 'name author by name author', and then a photo of themselves as the supposed cover of the book.
Is it possible to mark these records as 'not a book'?
I stumbled upon two separate authors last night who both have a book that is 'name author by name author', and then a photo of themselves as the supposed cover of the book.
Is it possible to mark these records as 'not a book'?
2Nicole_VanK
If you have them in your collection, you could mark them as "other". If not, no. Other people's data are pretty much sacrosanct, and with good reason
3anglemark
The LibraryThing staff have stated that we are allowed to catalog anything we want here, as long as it is legal and not commercial spam. Photographs are definitely allowed. (As are people. Theoretically, you are allowed to create a photo catalog of all your friends.)
4lilithcat
>3 anglemark:
These people are not cataloguing photographs. They are creating "books" with the title being the name of an author.
These people are not cataloguing photographs. They are creating "books" with the title being the name of an author.
5MarthaJeanne
But whoever is doing it has been doing it for a long time.
6tmrps
>4 lilithcat: And sometimes these books don't even have a 'cover', so it's only a book with the name of the author as title.
7MarthaJeanne
I think the photo could be flagged as 'not a cover'.
8tmrps
>2 Nicole_VanK: No, I don't have these titles in my library. I just stumbled upon the titles when I was looking for something else.
9tmrps
>5 MarthaJeanne: I think most of the time it's an importing problem, not someone who is doing it deliberately.
10tmrps
>7 MarthaJeanne: I have done that already!
11tmrps
>3 anglemark: But I don't think you should categorise these photos as books, I suppose? I am fine with uploading photos, that's not the problem. Those photos just shouldn't be categorised as books.
12Nicole_VanK
LibraryThing calls every entry a "book", even if we mark them as sound recordings or motion pictures, or something entirely different.
13SandraArdnas
>12 Nicole_VanK: I think the official term is 'work' on site level, though I'm not sure that will satisfy the OP either
14aspirit
>1 tmrps: Are you saying author photos are being uploaded as works instead of as pictures in the picture gallery, and with the authors entered as the photos' creators? I have thoughts about what could be done but want to ensure we're thinking about the same thing. Examples might help.
15AnnieMod
Records like https://www.librarything.com/work/14056034 ?
In the world of LT each individual record is a book and each book belongs to a work.
People can catalog shoes or create records for the authors or anything else they want. They are not spam and they are books inside of LT. Not much you can do about them - just ignore them. They can be annoying but LT is a shared project.
In the world of LT each individual record is a book and each book belongs to a work.
People can catalog shoes or create records for the authors or anything else they want. They are not spam and they are books inside of LT. Not much you can do about them - just ignore them. They can be annoying but LT is a shared project.
16Scorbet
>14 aspirit:
I've seen works like William Shakespeare by William Shakespeare with a picture of the author as the "cover" before. (This was ages ago, so I unfortunately can't remember the authors concerned.) It struck me as less an attempt to treat the author photo as a work, as much as to treat the author themselves as a work. I think a lot of the pictureless ones are probably import issues, but the ones with pictures seem to have been deliberate.
I've seen works like William Shakespeare by William Shakespeare with a picture of the author as the "cover" before. (This was ages ago, so I unfortunately can't remember the authors concerned.) It struck me as less an attempt to treat the author photo as a work, as much as to treat the author themselves as a work. I think a lot of the pictureless ones are probably import issues, but the ones with pictures seem to have been deliberate.
17tmrps
>15 AnnieMod: Yes, records like this indeed.
18AnnieMod
>17 tmrps: Just ignore them. Nothing you (or anyone else besides the user who added them) can really do about them.
19norabelle414
Add 'em to the list: https://www.librarything.com/list/99/all/Things-we-wish-were-not-catalog-u-ed-on...
20Taphophile13
At least one member apparently has created an author gallery by entering author pictures as books: https://www.librarything.com/author/authorphoto
21tallpaul
I once came across a record for what appeared to be an Irish Nursing Home, when searching for something else. The title being the name of the home and it's full address. It turned out to be a legitimate record imported from an Irish library catalogue which was for an inspection report of the home titled in this way. I believe they have to be publically available hence its being in the library. In the course of working this out I ended up with a copy of the report but I subsequently misplaced both the report and the entry so I've not been able to add it to my library.
23Stevil2001
>15 AnnieMod: I think they bother me most (I usually find them when doing some combining) is when the name order is reversed but without a comma, e.g., "Eliot George by George Eliot," as in that example.
24aspirit
>20 Taphophile13: At least those pictures aren't showing as works on the author's page. That would annoy me to action.
25aspirit
>16 Scorbet: I've been assuming those works were collections missing subtitles.
26MarthaJeanne
>24 aspirit: The ones in >20 Taphophile13: don't but other ones such as the one in >15 AnnieMod: certainly do show as works on the author page.
27tallpaul
>22 lilithcat: no that's another one. The one I found had a postal code which matched a mis-scanned ISBN
28aspirit
>26 MarthaJeanne: But what is that example? Not what >1 tmrps: described.
29Scorbet
>25 aspirit: Yeah, that's my assumption for the coverless ones. However, there are also ones like this https://www.librarything.com/work/25749289 which seem more like a deliberate effort to catalogue the author.
30Scorbet
>28 aspirit: On reflection, I think that the >20 Taphophile13: example is a result of someone trying to fix the Author Name by Author Name issue, by manually changing the author to Author Photo, meaning that all of these "works" are corralled in a fake author rather than turning up on the author pages. I'm not entirely convinced this is the right approach, though.
31AnnieMod
>30 Scorbet: Nope. That’s a misuse of the feature allowing the primary author to be changed.
32bergs47
I see what you mean...
Schama Simon by Simon Schama (1 copy; go to work)
Schama Simon / Schama Simon / (separate)
https://www.librarything.com/work/13383720
No public books
With the Authors Picture and the following tags:
autori autori Inghilterra scrittori
Schama Simon by Simon Schama (1 copy; go to work)
Schama Simon / Schama Simon / (separate)
https://www.librarything.com/work/13383720
No public books
With the Authors Picture and the following tags:
autori autori Inghilterra scrittori
33Melanchthon
>19 norabelle414: some of the items on this list (the dresses, the tools, the ornaments, and so on) remind me of exercises we were given in library school cataloging class: "here, catalog this thing so we can see how expansive the cataloging rules are as well as how well you understand them."
So, of course, during my career I was working in the research library at a well-known museum and thrilled at the chance to add cataloging for a decorated handkerchief (the decoration related to our museum).
In retirement I volunteer at a local museum and have considered using LT as an online catalog for our collection objects. Maybe we need a parallel "MuseumThing" catalog!
So, of course, during my career I was working in the research library at a well-known museum and thrilled at the chance to add cataloging for a decorated handkerchief (the decoration related to our museum).
In retirement I volunteer at a local museum and have considered using LT as an online catalog for our collection objects. Maybe we need a parallel "MuseumThing" catalog!
34MarthaJeanne
Now that we have genres, maybe there should be a 'not a book' genre.
35Melanchthon
>34 MarthaJeanne: We used to call that sort of stuff "Realia" and I'm guessing that word would be more confusing that helpful here.
36Nicole_VanK
>35 Melanchthon: I still do (and yes, I have some catalogued as such on LT)
Don't worry folks. I won't catalogue every item in my home on LT. But museum replicas, and statuettes inspired by books, and prints (high quality single page art books, if you will) - yes.
Don't worry folks. I won't catalogue every item in my home on LT. But museum replicas, and statuettes inspired by books, and prints (high quality single page art books, if you will) - yes.
37AnnaVroland
Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
38naunaune2003
Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
39MarthaJeanne
>38 naunaune2003: According to Google translate that means 'The rice paper here is delicious' I would guess that it is spam.