Spam reporting thread #76
É uma continuação do tópico Spam reporting thread #75.
Este tópico foi continuado por Spam reporting thread #77.
DiscussãoSpam Fighters!
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1lilithcat
PROCEDURES FOR REPORTING SPAM
Distinguish between the following, and flag the highest level of the violation:
-- Type 1: Irredeemable commercial spam: make sure to flag the member's profile, as well as the spammy activity. This type includes things selling strollers, pharmaceuticals, live-streaming sports games, porn, and/or trying to create traffic/links to sites for such things. Sufficient profile flags will automatically result in temporary suspension and deletion of the member's activity, so use your profile-flagging powers wisely and carefully.
-- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.
Specific procedures:
-- Overzealous authors or publishers (these fall under type 2): do NOT flag the member's profile. Report to staff here or privately. You can also send the member a polite message pointing them to the terms, mentioning the "no promoting" language, and pointing them to the Do's and Don't page for authors: http://www.librarything.com/about_authors.php NOTE: Because all profile comments are now private, others cannot tell that you have left a message, so please include that information when you post in this thread.
-- Suspected sock-puppetry to promote a book, write fake reviews, and/or stack ratings: do not flag the profile, but report to staff here or by message, so staff can investigate. This is a serious violation for which members can be permanently banned.
-- Profile flags for commercial spammers only (type 1): On the member's profile page, click on the "report for spam" link, then follow instructions to flag the member. Again, this is only for commercial spam, not for "overzealous" authors, publishers, or booksellers, which should be reported to staff instead. See Talk post: http://www.librarything.com/topic/85810
-- Spam or promotional posts in a Talk topic (type 1 or 2): flag the post as an abuse of the terms of service.
-- Spam or promotional groups (types 1 and 2): flag new groups using the "flag this group" link.
-- Spam lists: report in this thread, and flag the member if it's commercial spam.
-- Spam works (type 1 spam): flag the work as spam on the work's editions page, and then vote on proposed work spam. Make sure to read the guidelines before proposing or voting, especially for what is not spam. Voting page: http://www.librarything.com/spam_works.php
-- Spam in a review (type 1), or an explicitly promotional review (type 2): flag the review as an abuse of the TOS, using the red flag.
-- Spam or promotion in "published reviews," or other CK fields (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete.
-- Spam or egregious promotion/advertising in venues or events (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete. Note that authors are permitted to add events for their books.
-- Spam in book links / quick links: post here and/or edit to remove spam.
-- Spam author names listed on a work: No current procedure. Tim has asked us not to change CK to indicate spammers, and not to combine spam authors together.
-- Not sure if it's spam? Post here, and explain why.
Please note that Tim has asked us not to use either CK or the combining system (whether works or authors) for spam fighting.
For more information see these wiki pages:
Procedures for flagging and reporting spam: https://wiki.librarything.com/index.php/Spam
Spam works, guidelines for flagging and voting: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/HelpThing:Spam_works
(A copy of these guidelines, for pasting in new threads, can be found here or at the top of previous threads.)
Distinguish between the following, and flag the highest level of the violation:
-- Type 1: Irredeemable commercial spam: make sure to flag the member's profile, as well as the spammy activity. This type includes things selling strollers, pharmaceuticals, live-streaming sports games, porn, and/or trying to create traffic/links to sites for such things. Sufficient profile flags will automatically result in temporary suspension and deletion of the member's activity, so use your profile-flagging powers wisely and carefully.
-- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.
Specific procedures:
-- Overzealous authors or publishers (these fall under type 2): do NOT flag the member's profile. Report to staff here or privately. You can also send the member a polite message pointing them to the terms, mentioning the "no promoting" language, and pointing them to the Do's and Don't page for authors: http://www.librarything.com/about_authors.php NOTE: Because all profile comments are now private, others cannot tell that you have left a message, so please include that information when you post in this thread.
-- Suspected sock-puppetry to promote a book, write fake reviews, and/or stack ratings: do not flag the profile, but report to staff here or by message, so staff can investigate. This is a serious violation for which members can be permanently banned.
-- Profile flags for commercial spammers only (type 1): On the member's profile page, click on the "report for spam" link, then follow instructions to flag the member. Again, this is only for commercial spam, not for "overzealous" authors, publishers, or booksellers, which should be reported to staff instead. See Talk post: http://www.librarything.com/topic/85810
-- Spam or promotional posts in a Talk topic (type 1 or 2): flag the post as an abuse of the terms of service.
-- Spam or promotional groups (types 1 and 2): flag new groups using the "flag this group" link.
-- Spam lists: report in this thread, and flag the member if it's commercial spam.
-- Spam works (type 1 spam): flag the work as spam on the work's editions page, and then vote on proposed work spam. Make sure to read the guidelines before proposing or voting, especially for what is not spam. Voting page: http://www.librarything.com/spam_works.php
-- Spam in a review (type 1), or an explicitly promotional review (type 2): flag the review as an abuse of the TOS, using the red flag.
-- Spam or promotion in "published reviews," or other CK fields (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete.
-- Spam or egregious promotion/advertising in venues or events (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete. Note that authors are permitted to add events for their books.
-- Spam in book links / quick links: post here and/or edit to remove spam.
-- Spam author names listed on a work: No current procedure. Tim has asked us not to change CK to indicate spammers, and not to combine spam authors together.
-- Not sure if it's spam? Post here, and explain why.
Please note that Tim has asked us not to use either CK or the combining system (whether works or authors) for spam fighting.
For more information see these wiki pages:
Procedures for flagging and reporting spam: https://wiki.librarything.com/index.php/Spam
Spam works, guidelines for flagging and voting: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/HelpThing:Spam_works
(A copy of these guidelines, for pasting in new threads, can be found here or at the top of previous threads.)
22wonderY
Author spam
https://www.librarything.com/topic/343042#n7889792
There is another post in a longer thread, but we’ve offered a chance to edit.
Member has been warned.
https://www.librarything.com/topic/343042#n7889792
There is another post in a longer thread, but we’ve offered a chance to edit.
Member has been warned.
32wonderY
>2 2wonderY:. Well, he must have been a fly-by. Please flag
https://www.librarything.com/topic/111260#7889780
https://www.librarything.com/topic/111260#7889780
62wonderY
For giggles
A translation company:
About Me
We have a professional team who always performs tasks to connect people around the world. We always prefer to give you with excellence and quality.
A translation company:
About Me
We have a professional team who always performs tasks to connect people around the world. We always prefer to give you with excellence and quality.
8norabelle414
>7 2wonderY: The number 8 is lucky in Chinese culture, and 88 is doubly so.
10gilroy
Author Spam
https://www.librarything.com/topic/343143
Profile: https://www.librarything.com/profile/RobertLipkowitz
(I've left a message)
https://www.librarything.com/topic/343143
Profile: https://www.librarything.com/profile/RobertLipkowitz
(I've left a message)
112wonderY
Tee hee. Just zapped a legal practice in the UK that specializes in toe amputation claims.
12karenb
>11 2wonderY: {insert joke about BigToe industry}
13karenb
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/stacaravankopen
works:
https://www.librarything.com/work/27410983/209395281 (what to expect from a chalet)
https://www.librarything.com/work/27410979/209395236 (chalet or mobile home?)
https://www.librarything.com/work/27410989/209395322 (buying a chalet)
works:
https://www.librarything.com/work/27410983/209395281 (what to expect from a chalet)
https://www.librarything.com/work/27410979/209395236 (chalet or mobile home?)
https://www.librarything.com/work/27410989/209395322 (buying a chalet)
14karenb
review: https://www.librarything.com/work/8315602/reviews/44975970
(we can flag the work afterwards)
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/frclicker13
(we can flag the work afterwards)
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/frclicker13
18gilroy
>17 lilithcat: Ah, in two groups I don't follow.
19lilithcat
>18 gilroy:
Nor do I. But when someone is posting spam in the forums, I'll usually check adjacent topic #s.
Nor do I. But when someone is posting spam in the forums, I'll usually check adjacent topic #s.
20MarthaJeanne
It's also useful to check the groups a spammer has joined.
23karenb
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/tomryderweddings
works: (covers also flagged -- see https://www.librarything.com/helpers_covers.php)
https://www.librarything.com/work/24672197
https://www.librarything.com/work/24844611
https://www.librarything.com/work/25324284
https://www.librarything.com/work/25735607
https://www.librarything.com/work/25860727
https://www.librarything.com/work/25974874
https://www.librarything.com/work/26146904
https://www.librarything.com/work/26282398
https://www.librarything.com/work/26673398
works: (covers also flagged -- see https://www.librarything.com/helpers_covers.php)
https://www.librarything.com/work/24672197
https://www.librarything.com/work/24844611
https://www.librarything.com/work/25324284
https://www.librarything.com/work/25735607
https://www.librarything.com/work/25860727
https://www.librarything.com/work/25974874
https://www.librarything.com/work/26146904
https://www.librarything.com/work/26282398
https://www.librarything.com/work/26673398
24Taphophile13
Author advertising book: https://www.librarything.com/topic/343371
Left message: https://www.librarything.com/profile/sherrychakrabarti
Left message: https://www.librarything.com/profile/sherrychakrabarti
25lilithcat
>24 Taphophile13:
Also:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/343370
https://www.librarything.com/topic/343372
https://www.librarything.com/topic/343373
Left message: https://www.librarything.com/conversation/Taphophile13/sherrychakrabarti
You do realize that no one else can see that message?
Also:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/343370
https://www.librarything.com/topic/343372
https://www.librarything.com/topic/343373
Left message: https://www.librarything.com/conversation/Taphophile13/sherrychakrabarti
You do realize that no one else can see that message?
26Taphophile13
Message deleted.
27Taphophile13
>25 lilithcat: Thanks. That was supposed to be the profile page:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/sherrychakrabarti
https://www.librarything.com/profile/sherrychakrabarti
28karenb
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/solidgroundca
works:
https://www.librarything.com/work/26830223/203310504
https://www.librarything.com/work/26830223/203310504
https://www.librarything.com/work/26515124/200190466
https://www.librarything.com/work/26381840/198921821
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/zoeblake
work: https://www.librarything.com/work/26888252/
works:
https://www.librarything.com/work/26830223/203310504
https://www.librarything.com/work/26830223/203310504
https://www.librarything.com/work/26515124/200190466
https://www.librarything.com/work/26381840/198921821
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/zoeblake
work: https://www.librarything.com/work/26888252/
29karenb
review: https://www.librarything.com/work/27527533/reviews/210522739
(flag the work after the review is gone)
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/naukrisarkari
(flag the work after the review is gone)
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/naukrisarkari
30karenb
review: https://www.librarything.com/work/28442285/reviews/219844628
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/beruangjpgacor
(flag the work after the review is gone)
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/beruangjpgacor
(flag the work after the review is gone)
31karenb
review: https://www.librarything.com/work/28215438/reviews/217103579
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/beruangmanisdadu
review: https://www.librarything.com/work/28437056/reviews/219770675
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/beruangjpion
review: https://www.librarything.com/work/28382089/reviews/219111063
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/beruanguangasli
review: https://www.librarything.com/work/28436580/reviews/219763208
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/beruangjpsweet
(flag works after the reviews are gone)
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/beruangmanisdadu
review: https://www.librarything.com/work/28437056/reviews/219770675
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/beruangjpion
review: https://www.librarything.com/work/28382089/reviews/219111063
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/beruanguangasli
review: https://www.librarything.com/work/28436580/reviews/219763208
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/beruangjpsweet
(flag works after the reviews are gone)
32karenb
review: https://www.librarything.com/work/25975119/reviews/195370069
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/Dealsmm
(flag the work after the review is gone)
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/Dealsmm
(flag the work after the review is gone)
34Nevov
And these have reviews too:
https://www.librarything.com/work/23841920/reviews
https://www.librarything.com/work/24178982/reviews
https://www.librarything.com/work/24183500/reviews
https://www.librarything.com/work/24183520/reviews
https://www.librarything.com/work/24186078/reviews
https://www.librarything.com/work/24186089/reviews
https://www.librarything.com/work/23841920/reviews
https://www.librarything.com/work/24178982/reviews
https://www.librarything.com/work/24183500/reviews
https://www.librarything.com/work/24183520/reviews
https://www.librarything.com/work/24186078/reviews
https://www.librarything.com/work/24186089/reviews
35karenb
more reviews:
https://www.librarything.com/work/14890383/reviews/
https://www.librarything.com/work/14923076/reviews/
https://www.librarything.com/work/14932663/reviews/
https://www.librarything.com/work/14936908/reviews/
https://www.librarything.com/work/14939145/reviews/
work: https://www.librarything.com/work/17668650
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/Dealsyehlo
https://www.librarything.com/work/14890383/reviews/
https://www.librarything.com/work/14923076/reviews/
https://www.librarything.com/work/14932663/reviews/
https://www.librarything.com/work/14936908/reviews/
https://www.librarything.com/work/14939145/reviews/
work: https://www.librarything.com/work/17668650
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/Dealsyehlo
39MarthaJeanne
>38 lilithcat: should not have been flagged if it was author spam.
402wonderY
>39 MarthaJeanne: There was nothing to indicate it was. The profile was completely bare. The profile name (note the store ending) didn’t correspond to the author name.
41lilithcat
>39 MarthaJeanne:
I did not do so. I posted the profile so folks would know who >37 yolana: was referring to, as that would not be possible once the post disappeared.
I did not do so. I posted the profile so folks would know who >37 yolana: was referring to, as that would not be possible once the post disappeared.
43Taphophile13
>42 amanda4242: Already gone. ;)
442wonderY
This morning’s smile:
“Hi, we are Vietnamese Hair Factory and this is our official Librarything. We specialize in wholesale and export of hair. If you are interested please check our website:” the picture was an astonishing array of colors.
Would y’all prefer I post these occasional sharings on a different thread?
“Hi, we are Vietnamese Hair Factory and this is our official Librarything. We specialize in wholesale and export of hair. If you are interested please check our website:” the picture was an astonishing array of colors.
Would y’all prefer I post these occasional sharings on a different thread?
45lilithcat
>44 2wonderY:
These are fun! I think, perhaps, a separate thread might actually encourage more people to join in, though!
These are fun! I think, perhaps, a separate thread might actually encourage more people to join in, though!
472wonderY
>46 karenb: The description of the work:
“ Bunga-bunga karangan bunga 20 Kartu Ucapan dalam Buku ruang putih untuk menulis Buku harian Buku catatan kenang-kenangan Dekorasi Hadiah oleh seniman modernis Grace Divine”
Translation:
Flowers wreath 20 Greeting Cards in a Book white space for writing Diary Keepsake Notepad Decoration Gift by modernist artist Grace Divine
Seems to me to be a legitimate work.
“ Bunga-bunga karangan bunga 20 Kartu Ucapan dalam Buku ruang putih untuk menulis Buku harian Buku catatan kenang-kenangan Dekorasi Hadiah oleh seniman modernis Grace Divine”
Translation:
Flowers wreath 20 Greeting Cards in a Book white space for writing Diary Keepsake Notepad Decoration Gift by modernist artist Grace Divine
Seems to me to be a legitimate work.
48MarthaJeanne
The member obviously started with a legitimate book, but edited title and author. The title and author in LT are QF_Karangan Bunga Papan "Happy Wedding" Ukuran 2x1,50m IDR.850.000
by Qatalia Florist
by Qatalia Florist
49karenb
>48 MarthaJeanne: >49 karenb: It's the text from a sign that they're selling, which is also in the cover images.
All flagged away by now, though.
All flagged away by now, though.
50karenb
work: https://www.librarything.com/work/15346339/112633990
review: https://www.librarything.com/work/12868438/reviews/111343326
(that work is also in two other libraries, so apparently not spam)
review: https://www.librarything.com/work/12868438/reviews/111343326
(that work is also in two other libraries, so apparently not spam)
512wonderY
>50 karenb: it was incorrectly combined with the other work. I separated it.
Profile:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Adaptivesports
Profile:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Adaptivesports
52karenb
review: https://www.librarything.com/work/28381454/reviews/219103848
(flag the work after the review is gone)
(flag the work after the review is gone)
53karenb
>51 2wonderY: Good catch; thanks.
55karenb
And now the work: https://www.librarything.com/work/28381454
60lilithcat
>44 2wonderY:
Joining in on the fun, I give you a bizarre erectile dysfunction remedy spammer:
"Reasons why Cialis 60 mg is the right preference for you inside the USA
"Cialis 60 mg is treating erectile brokenness. Thru that, the treatment of erectile capability is carried out. Cialis 60 mg accepts the most important 1/2 in reestablishing erectile brokenness. Definitely, sudden salts present in Cialis 60 mg assist with raising the phallus. What's greater, it rushes a load of blood to the personal topics of the more youthful guys. Because of the fast bloodstream within the unique areas, there is in addition companion degree exchange of the jogging collection of that organ.
"Consequently, Cialis 60 mg will boom the circulatory device and receives an actual and strong erection. Take this Cialis tablet given that you have erectile brokenness; anyway, don't use it. Cialis 60 mg endless amount of data your essential concept expert can begin the estimations of Cialis 60 mg. Your fundamental idea expert can, at final, endorse the littlest evaluation that gives an ensuing effect."
He also has a spam work here: https://www.librarything.com/work/28623557
Joining in on the fun, I give you a bizarre erectile dysfunction remedy spammer:
"Reasons why Cialis 60 mg is the right preference for you inside the USA
"Cialis 60 mg is treating erectile brokenness. Thru that, the treatment of erectile capability is carried out. Cialis 60 mg accepts the most important 1/2 in reestablishing erectile brokenness. Definitely, sudden salts present in Cialis 60 mg assist with raising the phallus. What's greater, it rushes a load of blood to the personal topics of the more youthful guys. Because of the fast bloodstream within the unique areas, there is in addition companion degree exchange of the jogging collection of that organ.
"Consequently, Cialis 60 mg will boom the circulatory device and receives an actual and strong erection. Take this Cialis tablet given that you have erectile brokenness; anyway, don't use it. Cialis 60 mg endless amount of data your essential concept expert can begin the estimations of Cialis 60 mg. Your fundamental idea expert can, at final, endorse the littlest evaluation that gives an ensuing effect."
He also has a spam work here: https://www.librarything.com/work/28623557
62MarthaJeanne
>60 lilithcat: I took out the member description (including link).
632wonderY
>60 lilithcat: Excellent!
64amanda4242
https://www.librarything.com/topic/343807#n7915996
Author spam. I've left a message.
https://www.librarything.com/profile/sebourne
Author spam. I've left a message.
https://www.librarything.com/profile/sebourne
662wonderY
And they were here last year as well
Works
http://www.librarything.com/work/27317212
http://www.librarything.com/work/27317211
http://www.librarything.com/work/27317207
Profile
https://www.librarything.com/profile/chaletnieuw
Works
http://www.librarything.com/work/27317212
http://www.librarything.com/work/27317211
http://www.librarything.com/work/27317207
Profile
https://www.librarything.com/profile/chaletnieuw
672wonderY
Author post
https://www.librarything.com/topic/343818#n7916445
Profile
https://www.librarything.com/profile/bkookb
I’ve left a message.
https://www.librarything.com/topic/343818#n7916445
Profile
https://www.librarything.com/profile/bkookb
I’ve left a message.
69karenb
>66 2wonderY: I remember them! Advice about buying chalets.
70FAMeulstee
New member/author, leaving messages all over in The Green Dragon:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/338100#7916657
https://www.librarything.com/topic/341847#7916659
https://www.librarything.com/topic/177029#7916660
https://www.librarything.com/topic/329997#7916661
https://www.librarything.com/topic/343067#7916663
https://www.librarything.com/topic/339395#7916664
https://www.librarything.com/topic/338211#7916666
https://www.librarything.com/topic/338824#7916667
Could someone leave a message on his profile ncholas ?
https://www.librarything.com/topic/338100#7916657
https://www.librarything.com/topic/341847#7916659
https://www.librarything.com/topic/177029#7916660
https://www.librarything.com/topic/329997#7916661
https://www.librarything.com/topic/343067#7916663
https://www.librarything.com/topic/339395#7916664
https://www.librarything.com/topic/338211#7916666
https://www.librarything.com/topic/338824#7916667
Could someone leave a message on his profile ncholas ?
71MarthaJeanne
>70 FAMeulstee: He's been removed as spam.
73MarthaJeanne
https://www.librarything.com/profile/ProtetoxDiet
https://www.librarything.com/topic/343832
At least as fast. Gone.
https://www.librarything.com/topic/343832
At least as fast. Gone.
74karenb
review: https://www.librarything.com/work/14823981/reviews/107264948
(work already flagged)
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/diettow001
(work already flagged)
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/diettow001
77norabelle414
>76 MarthaJeanne: I send a message
78karenb
https://www.librarything.com/profile/kidnv1
Posted three spam topics, caught by the spam-catcher, but I clicked on one so now it needs flagging:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/344043#n7924980
Posted three spam topics, caught by the spam-catcher, but I clicked on one so now it needs flagging:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/344043#n7924980
79MarthaJeanne
Author spam
https://www.librarything.com/topic/344071#n7926558
(https://www.librarything.com/profile/SnehashreeMandal)
https://www.librarything.com/topic/344071#n7926558
(https://www.librarything.com/profile/SnehashreeMandal)
80wcarter
A troll is stalking the posts of Folio Society Devotees.
tkidcharlemagne is making inflammatory posts and derogatory comments about members and has been flagged innumerable times in the following threads -
- https://www.librarything.com/topic/343410#n7916745
- https://www.librarything.com/topic/344062#unread
- https://www.librarything.com/topic/343919#n7926692
tkidcharlemagne is making inflammatory posts and derogatory comments about members and has been flagged innumerable times in the following threads -
- https://www.librarything.com/topic/343410#n7916745
- https://www.librarything.com/topic/344062#unread
- https://www.librarything.com/topic/343919#n7926692
81norabelle414
>80 wcarter: That's going to require staff intervention, I recommend emailing them. There's a "contact" link at the bottom of the page.
82lilithcat
Author spam: https://www.librarything.com/topic/344085
https://www.librarything.com/profile/stevensommer (Message left)
https://www.librarything.com/profile/stevensommer (Message left)
83lilithcat
Any one else get a spammy “review my book” message from Enakpoweri?
I’m afraid I sent him a rather snide comment in return.
I’m afraid I sent him a rather snide comment in return.
86karenb
review: https://www.librarything.com/work/27252875/reviews/207819607
(flag the work after the review is gone)
(flag the work after the review is gone)
89FAMeulstee
>88 2wonderY: Reviews are gone, I have now marked the works as spam:
https://www.librarything.com/work/28908764
https://www.librarything.com/work/28908773
https://www.librarything.com/work/28908791
https://www.librarything.com/work/28908792
https://www.librarything.com/work/28908793
https://www.librarything.com/work/28908795
https://www.librarything.com/work/28908764
https://www.librarything.com/work/28908773
https://www.librarything.com/work/28908791
https://www.librarything.com/work/28908792
https://www.librarything.com/work/28908793
https://www.librarything.com/work/28908795
90gilroy
https://www.librarything.com/profile/coolman11
https://www.librarything.com/topic/344202#7932026
Apparently, this is the same guy that keeps trying to do something regarding Elon Musk, because another post and user name of his got spammed away before I could post it here (loljoe456, I think). Funny part is he posted in Bug Collectors and started the post with "Stop Banning Me"
https://www.librarything.com/topic/344202#7932026
Apparently, this is the same guy that keeps trying to do something regarding Elon Musk, because another post and user name of his got spammed away before I could post it here (loljoe456, I think). Funny part is he posted in Bug Collectors and started the post with "Stop Banning Me"
93gilroy
>90 gilroy: So he keeps trying. There's a thread in bug collectors where he's been flagged into oblivion already.
Latest user names were coolman445 and looojoe452
And he keeps whining about being banned. Maybe it's time to get admin involved?
Latest user names were coolman445 and looojoe452
And he keeps whining about being banned. Maybe it's time to get admin involved?
94karenb
>93 gilroy: Maybe it's time to get admin involved?
Yes. Maybe they can explain some things to the next account they register.
Yes. Maybe they can explain some things to the next account they register.
95norabelle414
>90 gilroy:, >93 gilroy:
These have all already been removed as spam but for the record these accounts have also posted on the same subject:
Campjack0005
Stinkymna2.0
stinkymna4.0
Stinkymna5.0
These have all already been removed as spam but for the record these accounts have also posted on the same subject:
Campjack0005
Stinkymna2.0
stinkymna4.0
Stinkymna5.0
96gilroy
>94 karenb: I messaged Kristi before I left my bill paying job to come home.
Thread where all these offending posts seem to land at the moment:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/344254#unread
Thread where all these offending posts seem to land at the moment:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/344254#unread
97lorax
Have the rules for spam changed? I admittedly haven't been around as much as I once was, but I remember Tim saying in no uncertain terms that "noise" (like this Musk nonsense) was not spam. I've been blocking the users and threads when I find them, but haven't dared flag any.
98bnielsen
>97 lorax: I was wondering the same. Also didn't flag because the causes listed for flagging didn't apply.
99MarthaJeanne
The only one I flagged was defamatory to a major public figure. That is not actually on the list, but considering recent developments, probably should be.
100lilithcat
>99 MarthaJeanne:
In the U.S., it's pretty hard to defame a major public figure. See Sullivan vs. New York Times: https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/376/254/
In the U.S., it's pretty hard to defame a major public figure. See Sullivan vs. New York Times: https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/376/254/
101lorax
MarthaJeanne (#99):
I believe Tim said during the previous US presidential administration that so long as said major public figures are not LT members, insulting them is okay.
I believe Tim said during the previous US presidential administration that so long as said major public figures are not LT members, insulting them is okay.
105aspirit
Creating "nonsense" topics and multiple accounts for Talk are both against the TOS.
https://www.librarything.com/search.php?search=Stinkymna&searchtype=members&...
Do these actions count as spamming, though...? I think it does when it's all on the same topic, especially when it involves a brand. Elon Musk's name is branding.
https://www.librarything.com/search.php?search=Stinkymna&searchtype=members&...
Do these actions count as spamming, though...? I think it does when it's all on the same topic, especially when it involves a brand. Elon Musk's name is branding.
108norabelle414
There's a few topics caught in the spam filter as well, from accounts that have already been removed. Something is definitely going on but it's probably best left to the staff
109Taphophile13
He's back:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/344323
https://www.librarything.com/topic/344324
ETA: and gone again.
https://www.librarything.com/topic/344323
https://www.librarything.com/topic/344324
ETA: and gone again.
110stinkymna11.0
Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
111stinkymna11.0 

Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
112stinkymna11.0 

Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
113stinkymna12.0
Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
114Justiceforstinkymna 

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115Justiceforstinkymna2
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116lorax
aspirit (#105):
Can you provide a link to where "nonsense" topics were ruled flaggable? I remember Tim saying in no uncertain terms that flagging them was against the TOS, but I'd be delighted if he changed his mind over the years.
Can you provide a link to where "nonsense" topics were ruled flaggable? I remember Tim saying in no uncertain terms that flagging them was against the TOS, but I'd be delighted if he changed his mind over the years.
117norabelle414
"Do not create "pointless," "meaningless" or "random" groups or topics." from the "Community Rules" on the Terms of Service page
118amanda4242
>117 norabelle414: Yep, but I don't see anywhere that says those are flaggable offenses. I think what's happening is site vandalism and the member should be banned, but we're only supposed to flag profiles under a very limited set of circumstances.
119norabelle414
>118 amanda4242: I was only referring to flagging of the nonsense topics themselves, not profiles
120amanda4242
>119 norabelle414: Sorry, I misunderstood.
121Stinkymna17.0
Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
122norabelle414
Is anyone actually flagging the profiles? They seem to be disappearing quickly, I wonder if they are hitting some other kind of trigger that is removing their accounts, like creating too many accounts from the same IP address
124Stinkymna21.0
Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
125Stinkymna21.0 

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126Stinkymna21.0 


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127gilroy
Okay, Kristi has responded to my note and I've asked her to chime in here with regard to what's going on and the flag situation
128MarthaJeanne
I got two profile messages - not readable as the members had been suspended before I saw them. Do they think that being more and more obnoxious will get people to stop flagging them?
129kristilabrie
I would consider these accounts as spamming/TOS violations, they're "shell" accounts, posting pointless material knowingly and repeatedly. Flag away!
130amanda4242
>129 kristilabrie: Thanks!
131MarthaJeanne
>129 kristilabrie: We hear and obey! Thank you!
132lorax
Thank you, Kristi.
Can you please point us to clear general guidelines? Is all of the above ("shell" accounts, pointless material, repetition) required, or do two of three suffice? Would the first occurrence, when it was merely pointless without creation of sock-puppet accounts or repetition, have been flaggable?
I have long been utterly terrified of accidentally flagging something I shouldn't and being smacked down with a TOS violation, so I basically never flag anything.
Can you please point us to clear general guidelines? Is all of the above ("shell" accounts, pointless material, repetition) required, or do two of three suffice? Would the first occurrence, when it was merely pointless without creation of sock-puppet accounts or repetition, have been flaggable?
I have long been utterly terrified of accidentally flagging something I shouldn't and being smacked down with a TOS violation, so I basically never flag anything.
133Stinkyman23.0 

Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
134coolman0022
Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
135coolman0022
Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
136coolman0022
Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
137coolman00222
Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
138Stinkymna25.0
Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
139Stinkymna27.0 

Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
140Stinkymna27.0 

Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
141Stinkymna27.0 

Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
142Stinkymnabigfan2 

Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
144cpg
>129 kristilabrie:
When I click the button to Flag a profile, I get a warning pop-up saying that this is only for commercial spam. If it's not just going to be for commercial spam, maybe we could have that warning reworded.
When I click the button to Flag a profile, I get a warning pop-up saying that this is only for commercial spam. If it's not just going to be for commercial spam, maybe we could have that warning reworded.
145lorax
I believe that's still true for user flagging, it's only post flagging that has been relaxed.
146gilroy
>90 gilroy: When he started all this, it was multiple junk posts to groups that made no sense for the screed he was venting. Now, he's focused on two threads because they don't go away. But the posts are rather limited and innocuous.
ETA - Stand Corrected. He's just posting crap. With the way he's acting, I'm wondering if this is a bored 13 year old.
Kristi, can we lock him into only posting in those two threads and then everyone ignore the threads so no one has to listen? (It's different from a complete IP block. Maybe the PTB will go for it?)
ETA - Stand Corrected. He's just posting crap. With the way he's acting, I'm wondering if this is a bored 13 year old.
Kristi, can we lock him into only posting in those two threads and then everyone ignore the threads so no one has to listen? (It's different from a complete IP block. Maybe the PTB will go for it?)
147amanda4242
They're at it again.
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Stinkymna36.0
I think it's past time for an IP block.
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Stinkymna36.0
I think it's past time for an IP block.
148coolman3455 

Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
150SandraArdnas
Please PTB block that IP. Among other things, there's an Elon Musk pic as the group pic now.
152SandraArdnas
How do we flag group pic? I don't see any option
153gilroy
I thought it was Pulledpork098. Doesn't matter now, the picture is gone and changed back to the correct one.
154Marissa_Doyle
>147 amanda4242: Adding another vote for an IP ban. It's getting past ignoring now.
155Stinkymna42.0 


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157yolana
Does anyone why this account was suspened? https://www.librarything.com/profile/planes19
They seemed like a young teen who had the misfortune of having their thread hijacked by one of our more contrarian members. https://www.librarything.com/topic/344261#unread
They seemed like a young teen who had the misfortune of having their thread hijacked by one of our more contrarian members. https://www.librarything.com/topic/344261#unread
158norabelle414
>157 yolana: It's probably not for anything they did in that thread, but they have been directed to email Kristi to sort things out: https://www.librarything.com/topic/344295
159norabelle414
Not sure what's going on here (though obviously related to the earlier issues):
https://www.librarything.com/topic/344517
https://www.librarything.com/topic/344521
https://www.librarything.com/topic/344517
https://www.librarything.com/topic/344521
160gilroy
>159 norabelle414: Oh please PLEASE tell me it's time for an IP block...
161gilroy
https://www.librarything.com/topic/344528
Author spam. Been here since 2011 so should know better.
Author spam. Been here since 2011 so should know better.
162Cecrow
>158 norabelle414:, could it be age related? I've seen some accounts flagged before for being underaged. He/she might have revealed their age in a post, or someone made an assumption.
163MarthaJeanne
Punblisher spam I guess. https://www.librarything.com/profile/mysterymax
Should know better than to advertise a book even in context of a book conference stand.
Should know better than to advertise a book even in context of a book conference stand.
164Stinkymna45.0 

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165Stinkymna46.0
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166Stinkymna46.0
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168gilroy
I see I don't need to say ... they're back
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Stinkymna47.0
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Stinkymna47.0
169Pulledpork567
Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
170Pulledpork567
Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
171norabelle414
https://www.librarything.com/ngroups/23809/GEM
(ETA: gone now, but basically the spammer had created a whole group)
(ETA: gone now, but basically the spammer had created a whole group)
172Stinkymna48.0
Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
174Stinkymna49.0
Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
175norabelle414
They're now sending me private messages
176coolman098
Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
177coolman098
Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
178Stinkymna50.0
Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
179elonmusklover3 

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180Stinkymna51.0 

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181MarthaJeanne
>163 MarthaJeanne: No, it is author spam. Sorry, somehow my edit didn't take. https://www.librarything.com/topic/344538#n7937117
182daviddavon 

Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
183Stinkymna54.0 

Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
184Stinkymna54.0 

Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
186Pulledpork789 

Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
187Pulledpork789 

Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
188Pulledpork789 

Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
189Pulledpork789 

Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
190gilroy
>185 norabelle414: The group had been killed, but now appears to be resurrected...
191norabelle414
>190 gilroy: They're two different groups, they have different numbers. The second one still needs more flags: https://www.librarything.com/ngroups/23811/GEM
193Stinkymna66.0 

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194Stinkymna66.0 

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195Stinkymna66.0
Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
196Stinkymna66.0
Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
197Stinkymna66.0
Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
198MarthaJeanne
I wonder if this attacker is aware that there are a lot more of us to flag than of him to spam.
200MarthaJeanne
I would think that this would get very boring after a while.
201norabelle414
>198 MarthaJeanne: I think that's probably the whole appeal.
202yolana
But seriously, they must have something else to do with their time than to attend to spamming a bibliophilic cataloging site. If it is a bored teen then I pity them, my children’s lives were filled with many more interesting things to do at that age.
203aspirit
>200 MarthaJeanne: No one does this could have high standards for entertainment (or for job satisfaction in the case of hostile cyber agents, which the timing has me thinking of).
Anyway, this harassment comes off as both lonely and very desperate.
Anyway, this harassment comes off as both lonely and very desperate.
205Stinkymna67.0 

Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.
206Cecrow
The frustration is understandable, however we may be keeping this particular troll too well fed with acknowledgements. Best if we simply carry on with business.
207lorax
Can I suggest starting a new spam reporting thread, so we can all block this one and move on?
2082wonderY
>207 lorax: Don’t you think it’s a convenience that they come directly to our attention? Makes their stay briefer.
2102wonderY
I’m gonna call this author spam:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/344709#7938825
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Ronnie_K#
I’ve left a message.
https://www.librarything.com/topic/344709#7938825
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Ronnie_K#
I’ve left a message.
213lilithcat
Author spam: https://www.librarything.com/topic/344794
https://www.librarything.com/profile/chrisallenweber (Message left)
https://www.librarything.com/profile/chrisallenweber (Message left)
214Nevov
This one seems mildly author spam, and has a couple flags already: https://www.librarything.com/topic/344812
Author: https://www.librarything.com/profile/MaddieJaneAuthor
I have not left any message in case it is permissible for the Welcome to LT group.
Author: https://www.librarything.com/profile/MaddieJaneAuthor
I have not left any message in case it is permissible for the Welcome to LT group.
216lilithcat
>214 Nevov:
What did it say?
If it was promoting her book, then, no, it is NOT permissible in the Welcome to LT group.
Also, for future reference: if you are not certain whether something is spam, you can post in this thread: https://www.librarything.com/topic/338510 to discuss it.
What did it say?
If it was promoting her book, then, no, it is NOT permissible in the Welcome to LT group.
Also, for future reference: if you are not certain whether something is spam, you can post in this thread: https://www.librarything.com/topic/338510 to discuss it.
217Nevov
>216 lilithcat:
>What did it say?
It was along the lines of them introducing themselves, mentioning their book, and a giveaway they are planning to hold. No links just plain text, IIRC.
>What did it say?
It was along the lines of them introducing themselves, mentioning their book, and a giveaway they are planning to hold. No links just plain text, IIRC.
218lilithcat
>217 Nevov:
That's author spam. The presence or absence of links is not dispositive. He's promoting his book in a place where that is not permitted.
Flagging the post was appropriate, but a message should have been left on his profile directing him to the "How Authors Can Use LibraryThing" page.
That's author spam. The presence or absence of links is not dispositive. He's promoting his book in a place where that is not permitted.
Flagging the post was appropriate, but a message should have been left on his profile directing him to the "How Authors Can Use LibraryThing" page.
219Nevov
>218 lilithcat:
Thanks, sending a message now.
Thanks, sending a message now.
220lilithcat
Author spam:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/345022
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Macabre100 (message left)
https://www.librarything.com/topic/345022
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Macabre100 (message left)
222lilithcat
Author spam: https://www.librarything.com/topic/345149
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Enakpoweri (message left)
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Enakpoweri (message left)
224karenb
review: https://www.librarything.com/work/14327031/reviews/102585019
(flag the work after the review is gone)
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/iklanumroh
(flag the work after the review is gone)
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/iklanumroh
225aspirit
None of the links are to anime or anime-related sites.
https://www.librarything.com/topic/344242#7957043
https://www.librarything.com/topic/344759#7957044
https://www.librarything.com/topic/344242#7957043
https://www.librarything.com/topic/344759#7957044
226lilithcat
>225 aspirit:
So? That first thread is "Teens Talk About Anything", and if we flagged every post that was off-topic, we'd be doing nothing else!
So? That first thread is "Teens Talk About Anything", and if we flagged every post that was off-topic, we'd be doing nothing else!
227aspirit
>226 lilithcat: That looks like talking to you?
The links are lies, political and religious promotion (currently but loosely associated offsite with attacks on the media and members the group is for) misrepresented as links to legitimate anime sites.
One is gone and the other is no longer directly linked out in the open. So other people agreed those posts weren't merely off topic.
The links are lies, political and religious promotion (currently but loosely associated offsite with attacks on the media and members the group is for) misrepresented as links to legitimate anime sites.
One is gone and the other is no longer directly linked out in the open. So other people agreed those posts weren't merely off topic.
228norabelle414
>227 aspirit: There's not really anything we can do. We're just normal users with normal powers, all this thread does is draw attention to things that need to be flagged to make sure they get enough flags to be hidden.
As the group admin, you can "remove" those messages. You can also ban a member from the group. We can't do that.
If you think the user should be removed from LibraryThing as a whole (i.e. have their profile flagged as spam), you can make that argument but that's a much higher bar to clear. I would recommend banning them from the group (maybe with a warning first, that's up to you)
As the group admin, you can "remove" those messages. You can also ban a member from the group. We can't do that.
If you think the user should be removed from LibraryThing as a whole (i.e. have their profile flagged as spam), you can make that argument but that's a much higher bar to clear. I would recommend banning them from the group (maybe with a warning first, that's up to you)
230norabelle414
>229 aspirit: Yes, but you're the group admin, you can just "remove" messages without them needing any flags.
231MarthaJeanne
One of those messages has since been deleted by the member. I suspect that the sight of several flags is more of a deterrent than just having the message disappear.
232gilroy
Author Spam
https://www.librarything.com/topic/345372
Profile: https://www.librarything.com/profile/TanjaNayak (Message already left)
https://www.librarything.com/topic/345372
Profile: https://www.librarything.com/profile/TanjaNayak (Message already left)
233norabelle414
Author spam: https://www.librarything.com/topic/345412#unread
Do not flag: https://www.librarything.com/profile/brnartist (I left a message)
Do not flag: https://www.librarything.com/profile/brnartist (I left a message)
236lilithcat
>235 2wonderY:
Something's up. I flagged that one earlier today, and usually when I do they disappear pretty quickly. This shouldn't still be hanging around.
Something's up. I flagged that one earlier today, and usually when I do they disappear pretty quickly. This shouldn't still be hanging around.
237rodneyvc
>236 lilithcat: Agreed - I've zapped it too, but it hasn't gone.
238FAMeulstee
>237 rodneyvc: Only recent members go quickly, this one is a member since 2020.
239gilroy
>236 lilithcat: Are they appealing and coming back?
240lilithcat
>239 gilroy:
No idea. It's odd they'd wait so long to put up an image.
Nevertheless, it's clearly spam.
"Fast private instant loans at TCADVISORS only need ID card and photo household registration book. Quick loan with money in 30 minutes, no home appraisal, no mortgage."
No idea. It's odd they'd wait so long to put up an image.
Nevertheless, it's clearly spam.
"Fast private instant loans at TCADVISORS only need ID card and photo household registration book. Quick loan with money in 30 minutes, no home appraisal, no mortgage."
241gilroy
>240 lilithcat: never fear, already flagged from my end
2432wonderY
>242 karenb: I’ve just messaged Kristi.
2442wonderY
>235 2wonderY: Gone, with assistance from staff.
2472wonderY
Three books, two reviews need flagged:
https://www.librarything.com/catalog/ignitedrops
Account:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/ignitedrops
https://www.librarything.com/catalog/ignitedrops
Account:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/ignitedrops
248gilroy
Our buddy has circumvented his block, it seems:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/coolman090
Gone before I finish posting.
https://www.librarything.com/profile/coolman090
Gone before I finish posting.
249lilithcat
Author spam:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/345702
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Sharon_Lamirand (Message left)
https://www.librarything.com/topic/345702
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Sharon_Lamirand (Message left)
2512wonderY
All except the first one are spam profiles and need flagged. 85 of them.
https://www.librarything.com/search.php?search=Clean&searchtype=members&...
I’ve been having happy hunting just searching key words, but my eyes have given out.
https://www.librarything.com/search.php?search=Clean&searchtype=members&...
I’ve been having happy hunting just searching key words, but my eyes have given out.
2532wonderY
>252 lilithcat: Ah! Yes!
254karenb
>251 2wonderY: "I’ve been having happy hunting just searching key words, but my eyes have given out."
Welcome to my world. Breaks are important.
Welcome to my world. Breaks are important.
2552wonderY
Here’s a bunch; likely all of them:
https://www.librarything.com/search.php?search=Broker&searchtype=members&...
And these as well:
https://www.librarything.com/search.php?search=Mortgage&searchtype=members&a...
https://www.librarything.com/search.php?search=Broker&searchtype=members&...
And these as well:
https://www.librarything.com/search.php?search=Mortgage&searchtype=members&a...
2562wonderY
Just about all of these:
https://www.librarything.com/search.php?search=Solution&searchtype=members&a...
https://www.librarything.com/search.php?search=Solution&searchtype=members&a...
257karenb
>256 2wonderY:
Organized by book count, the top 3 seem to be actual libraries.
Most of the others are unconfirmed accounts, so we have nothing to do. Does this match with what you were posting?
Organized by book count, the top 3 seem to be actual libraries.
Most of the others are unconfirmed accounts, so we have nothing to do. Does this match with what you were posting?
2582wonderY
>257 karenb: with the changes to Profile page, I had this exchange with staff about flagging unconfirmed accounts:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/342464#7868020
https://www.librarything.com/topic/342464#7868020
2592wonderY
I flagged this a couple of hours ago. Needs another flag?
https://www.librarything.com/pic/9509925
https://www.librarything.com/profile/nottyboy
https://www.librarything.com/pic/9509925
https://www.librarything.com/profile/nottyboy
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