Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #85


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Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #85

Editado: Ago 11, 2022, 6:59 pm

THIS THREAD is for LibraryThing Members, and especially for “beginners,” to ask help and learn about combining and separating specific LibraryThing Works.
-- If a book is combined with other, very different books.
-- If a book won’t combine with others just like it.
-- If problems with any Work are overwhelming, or maybe you just don’t have time.


-- Please give Titles, Authors, hyperlinks, and other information that will help.
-- If you post multiple requests at once, please number each group. Examples:

“Please combine:
#1: The Story of the Life of You
#2: The Story of the Life of Everyone Else

-- Ask about sets of Works or Series pages, ask for opinions, or ask for help with specific languages, subjects, etc.; but please be brief.
-- Please do not give Search pages, Author pages, or groups of “possibles,” unless you have a specific question.
-- “Someone will be with you shortly.” Most requests are handled by our fellow LibraryThing Members, not by staff.
-- If you add to a post, please use “ETA:” or “EDIT:” to show what’s new.
-- Please note when a request is “DONE.”


-- If two works have more than 200 records each, LibraryThing staff may need to do the combining. Please post these requests to:
-- For information and discussion, but not problems, please see the Combiner’s Group Information, FAQ & Discussion Thread: .
-- For the related wiki page, please see: .
-- Please note Tim’s Guidelines for Proper Etiquette for Contacting Members about Book Records at ; if you contact another Member, please use Private Comment.
-- When this thread reaches 200 posts, please do not post here but start a new Thread. Threads under 200 posts load faster and are easier to navigate. Please copy these notes as post #1 of the new thread. Thank you.

Ago 11, 2022, 1:30 pm

Our "For the related wiki page" link above is bRoKeN ... Anybody have a lead on a suitable substitute link? Thanks!

Ago 11, 2022, 7:00 pm

>3 bnielsen:, >4 FAMeulstee: Thank you both!

Ago 11, 2022, 8:25 pm

Continuing from the previous thread...

Thanks to Nevov and r.orrison for helping out on my combining issues with

There are at least 2 more volumes coming in this series. Seeing that every volume that I created after the initial volume was combined with the first in the series, how can I avoid this in the future? Should I not include the first half of the title, "The Valley Out of Time:", and then edit the title after the work has been created? Any other tips to avoid the new volume being automatically combined and then me separating it and ending up with the same problem again?

Editado: Ago 11, 2022, 9:07 pm

The autocombiner ignores everything after a colon (:). However, in this case, avoiding : won't help, because The Valley Out of Time is too long. If you want the series name in the title, you will have to separate.

Ago 11, 2022, 9:55 pm

>6 cthulhuslibrarian:
> Should I not include the first half of the title, "The Valley Out of Time:", and then edit the title after the work has been created?

That does usually succeed. It will leave a trace remnant in the editions showing what you originally submitted it as, with (0 copies), so if you do this route, and see this happen, it's intentional and means if another person submits under that title, the autocombiner should correctly pull their copy into the work.

Or as >7 MarthaJeanne: describes, main thing is being aware such titles are liable to get combined, submit it and then separate. It's no sin or anything, to get autocombined, if you want your title a certain way then that's your prerogative.

Ago 15, 2022, 1:50 pm

Zero-copy work also has zero editions, so it needs someone with superpowers to combine:


Ago 15, 2022, 6:38 pm

Ago 17, 2022, 5:49 am

Description of the work is for the film, reviews are for the book with the same title. I don't know was this a simple error or whether entries for film are mixed in with those for the book.

And sorry to ask this again but how to combine series? (i.e. publisher's series listed on this page are one & the same: Thanks.

Editado: Ago 17, 2022, 8:09 am

>11 bluepiano: I flagged the top description as being for a different work. I also did work relationship to the video.

Ago 17, 2022, 10:29 am

>11 bluepiano: For the "how to combine series" question, on the series page under "Edit Series", "Relationships/Combine", it will list other series that overlap with the one you're on (which the two in this case do), and you can combine them.

Ago 17, 2022, 4:41 pm

>11 bluepiano:, >13 scott_beeler: Done (with apologies if there was reason not to ... )

Editado: Ago 21, 2022, 10:40 pm

Q timspalding: What do we do with these works?

ETA: Let me rephrase that: These appear to include a member’s actual records, entered as hyperlink, to an version of specific works. If so, I presume they should be combined with each specific work, not held out or lumped together as some sort of anomaly.

Combiners! Can you help get each of these works where they belong? Is there any way to keep LT from proposing all of them as combining opportunities for any of them?

Thanks in advance …

Ago 22, 2022, 4:01 am

If they are all combined into their proper works, all those works will be considered combining opportunities for each of them.. Obviously, they should not be combined with each other, but it is tempting.

Ago 24, 2022, 12:36 pm

Looks to me like William White #2 (not sure how to hyperlink WW #2 specifically) might be composed of more than author. Posting here in case someone feels like investigating.

Ago 24, 2022, 2:51 pm

>17 I-_-I: Well, I can see why you would think that, and it could still be the case, but LoC has all those books under the one author.

Ago 24, 2022, 3:27 pm

>18 MarthaJeanne: I see. Thanks for checking!

Ago 24, 2022, 4:31 pm

This book has two authors and so it's ended up with two records, one under one author and one under the other. What's the steps to combine the books? I tried some different things, but it looked like it was going to merge the authors into one person, so I didn't actually go through with anything.


Ago 24, 2022, 5:06 pm

>20 casvelyn: Done. Used the workbench and then added the author that didn’t show up.

Ago 25, 2022, 9:18 am

>21 2wonderY: Thank you!!

Ago 26, 2022, 9:31 am

I'm fairly sure this is the right place for this question. I have this book: which is by " Arbeitsgemeinschaft Dreizehnter August". That name is too long, so it has a disambiguation page: . As far as I can tell, neither my book nor my author show up on this page. However, when I go to "edit the division", my book was assigned to author 2 in 2015.

Wtf is going on?

Ago 26, 2022, 9:42 am

>23 jonsweitzerlamme: Your copy is listed with that author, but the work is listed as by Rainer Hildebrandt and Other authors have not been confirmed on the work page.

The German title had been listed as Canonical Title in English, so I fixed that.

Ago 26, 2022, 11:52 am

>24 MarthaJeanne: Perfect, I just swapped my authors. Thanks!

Set 10, 2022, 5:53 am

I just added the Finnish translation of Conn Iggulden's "Gates of Rome" (part one of the Emperor series). At first glance, everything looked ok, but then I checked the Original Title and also the Series, and with both of them it shows "The Field of Swords" (the 3rd part of the series). I don't know where to start fixing this? The covers are mostly for this work, and on the Combine pages it also sort of looks ok. Could someone who knows what they're doing please take a look?

Set 10, 2022, 7:14 am

Please tell us the Finnish title. Without that we can't do anything.

Editado: Set 10, 2022, 7:35 am

>27 MarthaJeanne: It looks like the serie numbering is wrong, and Talvitar's book is correctly combined.
I tried to fix it, but it looks like someone else is working on it now, as my changes didn't stick.
Finnish title: Keisari : Rooman portit

Set 10, 2022, 7:35 am

>26 Talvitar: I think it is right now, I hope it stays this way.

Set 10, 2022, 9:01 am

Thank you :)

Set 14, 2022, 10:50 pm

Can someone fix this.
Mystery Tour by Anthony C. Wilson does not show on the author page, I just realized.

This is a book I entered on LT in 2008. I did edit it slightly today, and clicked "Recalculate title/author", but it still doesn't show up on the author's page.

Set 14, 2022, 11:17 pm

>31 SaintSunniva: It was hiding under the C. Variant of the name so it needed to be assigned in the split. Should be all good now.

Set 15, 2022, 8:58 pm

>32 AnnieMod: Thanks for the fix!

Set 23, 2022, 5:24 am

Hi. there's a book which has two different entries that should be merged into one. Those are the links:

Set 23, 2022, 7:09 am

>34 FRZ: Those two links have the same work number (24478780) so this one it looks like the combining is okay, but it might be that you have the book added twice in your library.

Editado: Set 23, 2022, 12:06 pm

>34 FRZ: In case you are used to Goodreads where books of the same edition show up as a single entry and when duplicates are found, you need to merge them (or request them to be merged), LT works a bit differently. We do not have an editions layer (despite the name on the page when you go to the work) - we have a book level (a single copy of the book) and a work level (all copies, in all languages (with some special exceptions)). Each book is on its own and then the site (with some manual help occasionally) combines them into works. If the entries are exactly the same, the editions layers will show them as x copies. Behind the scenes though, they are the same - this grouping is just the level at which we can move these between works. If they are not (and sometimes the difference is almost invisible to the eye), they show up on separate lines on the Editions level as they do here:
Crimen on the rocks/Vázquez, Alfonso/ISBN 8494239112 (2 copies separate)
Crimen on the rocks/Vázquez García, Alfonso/ISBN 8494239112 (2 copies separate)

The difference is the author name. That does not imply that they are different editions, it just means that LT sees a difference between the book data so it keeps them separate. They are already in one work as mentioned above so nothing more can be done.

Set 24, 2022, 9:03 pm

Should and be combined? I tried adding them to workbench and combining, but there's a show-stopper "You must resolve the work-relationship issues before combining this title." I'm very new to LibraryThing so don't want to mess stuff due to not understanding it all.

Set 24, 2022, 9:12 pm

>37 micahlindstrom: As the disambiguation notice indicates, the first work contain the novel but also two short stories, so it's not the same work as the second, which is just the novel. Two works should only be combined if they are the same. (Broadly speaking, anyway.) The work-to-work relationship stops a work from being combined with a constituent part.

Set 24, 2022, 9:41 pm

Thank you, that explains it! I didn't see any differences on the Works pages in the main descriptions, but now that you've said that I can see the "contains" section is different for them.

Editado: Set 25, 2022, 1:04 am

In CK there is a disambiguation notice : Collection published by Legend, containing the title novel and two short stories: "The Sentinel" and "Encounter in the Dawn"

Disambiguation notices are important for combiners.

Editado: Set 26, 2022, 5:40 pm

>35 Nevov:
>36 AnnieMod:
Thanks you both for your replies.
I Don't know if this is the place, but the author seems to be duplicated (I think this time it's true):

Set 26, 2022, 5:49 pm

New to this type of issue, but I have two Goosebumps books from two different series and are very different books with similar titles. They are showing as separate editions of the same book. One is Creature Teacher from Series 2000. The other book is Creature Teacher: The Final Exam from Goosebumps Most Wanted series.

Editado: Set 26, 2022, 6:21 pm

>42 Leath: I think I have these separated.

There are also non-english editions. These are also separated, but I have no idea which work they should be combined into.

Set 27, 2022, 12:48 pm

>41 FRZ: Done.

Editado: Out 14, 2022, 11:00 am

please combine this huge list of HYPERLINK works


Out 14, 2022, 11:12 am

>45 supersidvicious: Problema
Ops, qualcosa non va.

Out 14, 2022, 12:13 pm

Out 14, 2022, 12:15 pm

>47 aspirit: Import gone wrong most likely. These URLS contain actual data that allows us to see which book they are supposed to be so combining them together is not a good idea IMO.

Out 16, 2022, 7:38 pm

>48 AnnieMod: Is it appropriate to combine individual "hyperlink" entries with their respective works?

Out 16, 2022, 8:51 pm

>49 jasbro: They are meant to be that book - the fields just went weird - so I’d think so. :)

Out 16, 2022, 11:32 pm

>49 jasbro: >50 AnnieMod: & anyone else helping, keep in mind that Audible makes audio dramatic adaptations as well as unabridged audio versions (and also original audio works), which would affect where each gets combined.

Out 16, 2022, 11:41 pm

>51 Nevov: Yep and they also have some abridged titles. I’d usually check the asin on Amazon when it is there and obviously meant to be there (and not just choosing the closest sounding and then updating.

Out 17, 2022, 12:05 am

>52 AnnieMod: The Audible site itself also usually helpfully indicates "Unabridged Audiobook", when it's that, at the end of the summary description on the item's listing near any series and category information. Most of them are that from what I'm seeing.

Bit annoying that the similarities will mean each of these gets continually suggested in future, as a potential combination of all the others, and no "never" way to tell the site to stop suggesting it.

Editado: Out 17, 2022, 12:56 pm

>45 supersidvicious:, >46 MarthaJeanne:, >47 aspirit:, >48 AnnieMod:, >51 Nevov: I've done about a half dozen so far. Of those, each of Amazon's Audible edition listings reported they're unabridged. The only one I've not yet found is Secrets of the Brain, which Audible's UK site shows as a Scientific American edition, but I don't find any corresponding entry elsewhere (including LT). Further thoughts, suggestions, and assistance are welcome!

Out 17, 2022, 1:11 pm

>54 jasbro: "Secrets of the Brain" is an audio-only publication - so it won't be here unless someone had added the audiobook. See for example for one of their other audio-only publications. Apparently noone yet added "Secrets of the Brain". I'd add a CN I think so if someone ever does, it can be found...

Out 20, 2022, 9:36 am

Hi, these books are the same and should be combined:
Aventuras del caballero Rogelio de Amaral by Wenceslao Fernández Flórez

Editado: Out 20, 2022, 10:38 am

>57 MarthaJeanne: Thanks.
Sorry for not using the same post. this work is tripled:
Volvoreta by Wenceslao Fernández Flórez

Out 20, 2022, 11:23 am

Out 21, 2022, 8:07 am

>46 MarthaJeanne: una sfida più che un problema

Editado: Nov 1, 2022, 6:29 am

Can anybody help me to split Frohe Weihnachten by Annegret Görres-Hafenmair? There are two editions by the same title and author but with different content.

Editado: Nov 1, 2022, 8:46 am

If there is no difference in the title or author and no ISBN, there is no way to separate the books. Both copies belong to you, so you can edit them to differentiate. Perhaps add the publication date to the titles? Once they are in different 'editions', they can be separated.

Nov 1, 2022, 7:51 am

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Nov 1, 2022, 4:49 pm

Ah, goody, that has done the trick! Thank you verý much, MarthaJeanne!

Nov 2, 2022, 9:06 am

>64 Nooiniin: Do you know what the difference between the two versions is? You could write that in the Disambiguation Notes now they are separated to help others to tell them apart in future. Eg. if one has a particular story or section that the other doesn't you could mention that.

Nov 15, 2022, 9:10 pm

As far as I can tell there's no reason for the Modern Library to be separate from the main entry (and it seems there are already some ML editions in the main entry).

Nov 16, 2022, 12:07 am

Dez 2, 2022, 5:38 pm

The page for rap group The Roots includes at least two works that aren't theirs:
If anyone has time to sort this out :)

Dez 3, 2022, 2:16 am

>68 -o_o-:

I split the author, so fixed.

Editado: Dez 5, 2022, 9:36 am

I need a bit of help, please. I notice that the author S. Arumugam is a combination of two authors. One is actually Sanmugam Arumugam. I have split up the S. Arumugams ( but when I try to combine the author who wrote Water resources of Ceylon: its utilisation and development with Sanmugam Arumugam both S. Arumugams end up becoming combined. I hope that makes sense?

How do I just combine the relevant S. Arumugam with Sanmugam Arumugam?

Editado: Dez 5, 2022, 10:16 am

>70 libraian: You cannot combine a split author, all splits end up combined. In those cases you alias a split. Open 'edit the division' on the right on the split author page and you'll see a tab 'alias division to other authors'. Input the author code it is to be aliased to (last part of the author page web address, in this case arumugamsanmugam) and save.

If you prefer I can do it, but I thought you'd like to know what to do for the future.

Editado: Dez 5, 2022, 10:17 am

>70 libraian: You cannot combine a split author - the combination works only for single authors - you can alias though (the menu is on the same page where you assign books to the split - there is an aliasing tab there). The alias will achieve almost the same (the books will also show up under the other author and the split part will appear under the name of the main author). Would you like to try or do you want me to?

Dez 5, 2022, 10:23 am

>71 SandraArdnas: >72 AnnieMod: Thank you both for the explanation. I'll give it a go first and see if it works.

Dez 5, 2022, 4:12 pm

Help please. While deleting some of the dozens and dozens of suggested "Combine with..." on Leonard Baskin's author page, I've gone and combined it with Robert Fagles's page, presumably by hitting "(combine)" rather than "(never combine)".

How do I undo this combination? Thanks.

Editado: Dez 5, 2022, 4:23 pm

>74 Cynfelyn: or usually although that page can be a bit confusing - there was a canonical name messing up everything so you could not see Fagles's name properly.

The trick in such cases is to look at the titles and see which ones actually belong to whoever you are separating out. I think I separated them but see if anything still looks wonky.

Dez 5, 2022, 6:49 pm

>74 Cynfelyn: I've done that once or twice. I solved the problem by making sure to aim my mouse specifically at the word "never" when clicking, since when the combine / never combine links wrap from one line to the other it's easy to mis-read and click on the wrong link. It would help if the (combine) links disappeared when you've clicked "Never?". I also think it would help if all the suggested author combinations went away, only about 1 in 1000 are valid and I suspect that more invalid combinations are clicked accidentally than valid ones intentionally.

Dez 6, 2022, 9:35 am

>71 SandraArdnas: >72 AnnieMod: Okay, thank you. I managed to alias the division (I think).

Is there absolutely no way to combine the author for just that work to Sanmugam Arumugam? The other S. Arumugam seems to be a mathematician.

Dez 6, 2022, 9:41 am

>77 libraian: I have fixed the aliasing so that it works.

Dez 6, 2022, 10:07 am

>78 MarthaJeanne: Thank you. You'll have to explain to me what I did wrong :0)

Does that mean I can go ahead and combine just that author without dragging in the two maths books?

Editado: Dez 6, 2022, 10:33 am

>79 libraian: No! As long as there are two authors with the same name, they cannot be combined separately. However, if you now go to Sanmugam Arumugam you will see Water resources of Ceylon on the list.

You did not use the right bit of the URL. You needed the last bit, not the first bit. It's that last bit that says that you want this particular author.

Editado: Dez 6, 2022, 10:42 am

>80 MarthaJeanne: Ah, okay. Thank you.

ETA: In that case, can I change the name to Sanmugam Arumugam (for Water Resources) and then combine them? I've added it to my catalogue, but of course changing the name in Common Knowledge only reflects in my catalogue.

Dez 6, 2022, 3:57 pm

>75 AnnieMod: Very many thanks. It all looks good, except that Baskin's photograph (the b/w photo with a beard and a grandfather shirt) was left behind on Fagles's author page. I take it it's not possible to reallocate author pictures through the de-combining process.

I've added a correct photograph to each page, and messaged the original uploader of the left-behind photo to see whether they are willing to delete it. Otherwise, give it a few days before I flag the picture as now attached to the wrong author.

>76 r.orrison: I think there are getting to be more and more combination suggestions. In this case, Baskin, an illustrator, seems to have attracted masses of suggestions for authors and translators he had illustrated. I remember Homer and Beowulf were among those I deleted, besides some of the variations on Shelley, Seamus Heaney, Virgil and Pope (and Fagles) still left; none of them valid combinations. I agree, LT could do worse than tweak the parameters of the module that makes the suggestions.

Dez 6, 2022, 4:10 pm

>82 Cynfelyn: That is one of the things that can happen in cases like that I am afraid - untangling a wrong combination is not always trivial. Most of the other stuff asks you to merge manually (links and CK and so on) post combination of authors (stranded links and stranded CK in Combinations Issues basically) but photos can become a pain. :(

Dez 9, 2022, 12:26 am

>80 MarthaJeanne: Sorry to belabour this, but is it possible to change the name for the author of Water resources of Ceylon to Sanmugam Arumugam and then combine it?

Dez 9, 2022, 12:38 am

>84 libraian: It is not possible to edit someone else's record, so S. Arumugam will be there as an author as long as someone has it entered that way. What you can do is confirm the full name version under 'other authors' on the work page. That would make the work appear under both, but since the two are aliased, this is already the case, so not sure it helps with what you have in mind.

Dez 9, 2022, 9:13 am

>85 SandraArdnas: Thanks; now I understand why I keep going in circles with this :0)

Dez 19, 2022, 10:46 am

Dez 19, 2022, 11:30 am

>88 AnnieMod: thank you

Dez 26, 2022, 8:32 am

if there is a tutorial about the workbench, please point me to it. Infuriating.

I entered this radio drama -

Which of course got combined with Oliver Twist the novel proper novel.

Dez 26, 2022, 3:11 pm

>90 Bookmarque: Of course it was. Anything after a colon is ignored by the auto-combiner

Dez 26, 2022, 3:30 pm

I always forget that.

Dez 26, 2022, 3:53 pm

>90 Bookmarque: You don’t really need the workbench for this but if you prefer to work from there: add the whole work in it, open the workbench and locate your edition and press separate next to it. Then look at the top and separate from there and confirm on the next page (if it is a single edition/line you want to pull, it is faster to just push separate on the editions page - then the second step does not happen as it immediately separates and sends you to the confirmation page. Going through a combination page (workbench, author page or in any other way) allows the disconnected lines/editions to stay together.

Dez 26, 2022, 4:55 pm

I guess I was hoping the workbench would help me identify this one in that huge list. Alas...

Dez 26, 2022, 5:13 pm

I would add it to the workbench, then open the workbench and search (using the browser's built-in search function, usually Ctrl+F) for audible and click separate by that edition. Repeat for all the audible editions (assuming they're all the same, which I suppose the probably aren't). That will bring all those editions into a list at the top of the page, then you can click the separate button there to separate all them from the main work, and put them together into one work.

Dez 26, 2022, 5:15 pm

Yup, that's what I ended up doing and I think I'm on the right track. Kinda.

Editado: Dez 26, 2022, 5:22 pm

>95 r.orrison: Except that most Audible editions are straight readings and they should stay with the novel and not get separated. :) only the dramatizations and abridgments need to be pulled out.

So careful when pulling out editions out, especially for the classics. There are a lot of editions in various formats and moving the readings with the radio play is as bad as having the radio play with the main work.

Editado: Dez 27, 2022, 4:31 pm

I thought it separated when I did the work last night, but my Mendes audible original is magically combined with the original novel again. I give up.

Ok, now it's not again. This is insane.

Dez 27, 2022, 5:03 pm

>98 Bookmarque: Add a Relationship to the two works to keep them separate: relationship options include abridgement and adaptation.

Editado: Dez 27, 2022, 5:34 pm

>99 karenb: >98 Bookmarque:

Yes - always add a relationship after you separate in such cases or someone will “helpfully” combine them for you. Disambig note works sometimes but these get easily ignored. Relationship needs to be broken before they can be combined. :) I’d usually do both - a relationship and a disambig note with the details of what this is exactly.

Dez 27, 2022, 5:56 pm

>100 AnnieMod: Yes - always add a relationship after you separate in such cases or someone will “helpfully” combine them for you. Disambig note works sometimes but these get easily ignored. Relationship needs to be broken before they can be combined. :) I’d usually do both - a relationship and a disambig note with the details of what this is exactly.

The problem with relationships is that sometimes the relationships available just don't apply. I'll give an example at the end of this post (from a Combiners post that I did earlier -- "A Manual of the Writings in Middle English: Advice Requested" -- which is why I'll post it at the end as an appendix).

There simply is no relationship defined that in any way explains the actual relation between the John Edwin Wells single volume Manual of the Writings in Middle English 1050-1400 and the ten-volume Burke Severs and Albert E. Hartung A Manual of the Writings in Middle English 1050-1500 (which I can't post a touchstone for because it isn't a single book).

The Severs/Hartung volumes were inspired by -- almost a homage to -- the Wells book, and used its system of citations to a substantial extent, but they aren't the Wells book, and are entirely by different authors. They are intended as a replacement for Wells based on later, up-to-date knowledge.

This perhaps should be considered a feature request, but we need something like an "Other (specify)" relationship type. That would deal with the "inspired by" types, and all the goofball things I need to deal with for, say, the Canterbury Tales -- critical collections of variants (Variorum Chaucer), facsimile editions (photographs of the Hengwrt manuscript), diplomatic editions (text of the Ellesmere manuscript, in modern type), commentary manuscripts with some tales omitted, modernizations of various degrees... the relationship types just aren't in the set.

Here is the relevant part of the post about the Wells/Severs/Hartung books, posted November 29, 2022 (FWIW, after I got my answer, I worked on the books to try to get them straightened out. I couldn't get it all fixed; it was just too complicated, and in some cases I couldn't tell which book was which):

This pertains to a series of books (series in the publisher's sense, not in the LibraryThing sense) entitled A Manual of the Writings in Middle English 1050-1500.

There is some history here. The original was a single big volume with a series of supplements. The book was A Manual of the Writings in Middle English 1050-1400 by John Edwin Wells.

This book was so good and useful that eventually it was decided that there was need for a replacement -- not an expansion, an actual replacement. This was the aforementioned A Manual of the Writings in Middle English 1050-1500. (Note, among other things, the expanded date range.)

This was a major project; instead of a single author, it became a ten volume series with two editors, Burke Severs (who edited the first two volumes) and Albert E. Hartung (who did the rest of the released volumes).

This series is "Based on" the Wells book, but it is not the Wells book.

Dez 27, 2022, 6:02 pm

>101 waltzmn: Then “when possible” and the disambig note will need to carry the weight in the remaining cases. It should be always attempted - separate, try to set relationship, add disambig note.

Dez 27, 2022, 6:07 pm

>101 waltzmn: The different types of relationships don't have different functionality, so you could always pick something generic like "is an adaptation of" and then explain more in the disambiguation notice.

Dez 27, 2022, 6:14 pm

>102 AnnieMod: >103 norabelle414:

I truly would never have thought of that. (I'm autistic, and don't tell lies, and that's at least technically a falsehood.) But it makes sense. Thank you.

Dez 27, 2022, 9:17 pm

>104 waltzmn: "Was inspired by" is a rather good catch-all for relationships when one work is some kind of derivative of the other but not an adaptation.

Dez 28, 2022, 4:03 am

>105 Nevov: "Was inspired by" is a rather good catch-all for relationships when one work is some kind of derivative of the other but not an adaptation.

I agree, but I can't make it happen. :-)

Dez 28, 2022, 11:19 am

>106 waltzmn:
>I can't make it happen. :-)

We might be talking at cross-purposes. I wasn't mentioning it as a new idea for the site, I was saying that if you don't think adaptation is an appropriate relationship, then "Was inspired by" might be better to select, this being one of the other options in the list.
The wiki page has the full list with examples:

Dez 28, 2022, 12:32 pm

>107 Nevov: We might be talking at cross-purposes.

No, I was just forgetting what was possible. :-) Thank you.

Jan 1, 5:25 am

This author is the same as this author of this book . I know this because I own both books,

I'd appreciate if someone can put the books with the one author. I tried and I think it said - too much love or something. Thanks!

Editado: Jan 1, 5:45 am

>109 vancouverdeb: I have moved that book to C. J. Cooke (1) under Author division. The other two unassigned books were by author 2.

Jan 1, 5:43 am

>109 vancouverdeb: If you tried to combine the books (the only place where that error message shows up), then it is a good thing they had enough copies to cause the block to happen - combining two different books into one work is definitely not what you want to do here. That would mean that the book is the same (with different title) as opposed to being from the same author. :) It needed to be assigned to the proper split - which MarthaJeanne managed to do between me looking at the author and going for the edit. :)

Jan 1, 6:51 am

>111 AnnieMod: Thanks for the information. I was trying to combine the authors . Thanks to you and MarthaJeanne for combining and splitting the authors . Appreciated!

Jan 11, 8:04 pm

I'm not sure how to combine these two versions of the same book (though one version is in French). These are the two Main Page links for How Sleeps the Beast by Don Tracy.

Seems a bit unusual to me.

Editado: Jan 11, 8:13 pm

>113 rocketjk: Look at the bottom right side of the work page - you are looking for Add to Workbench. Add both works into the workbench and then open the workbench to combine. Or I can do it for you if you prefer?

Jan 11, 10:46 pm

>114 AnnieMod: Thanks. I'll give it a try in the morning.

Jan 11, 10:56 pm

>115 rocketjk: Have fun. Post back if you would like someone else to fix it. :)

Jan 12, 1:52 am

Of course, you can also do it from the author page.

Jan 12, 1:32 pm

>116 AnnieMod: When I tried Add to Workbench, I couldn't complete the task, because there was already another book on the Workbench. I didn't see how to work around that.

>117 MarthaJeanne: This worked. Thanks.

Editado: Jan 12, 1:34 pm

>118 rocketjk: You can have as many books as you want in the workbench. You don’t need to combine them all together once they are in the workbench. they just show up on an interface allowing combining later on.

Jan 12, 1:37 pm

>118 rocketjk: I didn't see how to work around that.
When you're in the workbench you can click the little - next to a work to remove it from the workbench, or click Clear workbench to remove all the works from it to start over.

Jan 12, 2:00 pm

>120 r.orrison: Thanks. Next time.

Jan 22, 6:28 am

a lot of HYPERLINK("

Jan 22, 6:58 am

That link does not work from .com.

Editado: Jan 22, 8:37 am

>123 MarthaJeanne: It's easy to log into the Italian LT. And yeah, that's a lot of links. No idea what it means.

Same can be seen on the main site, here:

Jan 22, 8:43 am

>124 karenb: It's the Combine Potentials page. That one work (43036) has a ton of Audible links. Other works I've checked don't seem to have that problem.

Jan 22, 10:22 am

Probably someone had a bad import (trying to import from Audible, maybe). Combined with this bug: where there are way too many suggested combinations, it looks like a mess.

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Editado: Jan 22, 4:36 pm

>122 supersidvicious:, >123 MarthaJeanne:, >124 karenb:, >126 norabelle414: We've had this conversation before on this thread, with some insight but apparently not much progress. See messages 15 & 16 above (starting at and messages 45-55 above (starting at But for MarthaJeanne's word to the wise (, the consensus seems to be (a) first check whether the Audible edition is a dramatic adaptation or abridged, then (b) combine or re-title and disambiguate accordingly. I expect it'll be a long, hard slog to get them each matched up with its corresponding, "real" work. Best get started?

Jan 26, 3:22 pm

I wondered if anyone would like to tackle the author page of Sono Ayako.

A few of her books are translated into English (like this 2021 edition of Miracles, a novel) translated by Kevin M. Doak, and then there are lots and lots of one-and-two copy titles in Japanese characters that I wouldn't dare touch, but I have a feeling there's a pile of combining that could be done.

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Fev 5, 9:51 pm

>131 gaytheater: You cannot control who becomes the main author - the system picks the author with the most books basically. What you can do when it is the wrong version is to use the canonical name to get the correct name to show at the top of the page.

Fev 5, 10:38 pm

>132 AnnieMod: Thank you

Fev 6, 11:11 am

Gah! Can someone separate the individual seasons from the complete collection of Warehouse 13, please? I bought a duplicate copy of season 5 because it was in the wrong place.

Fev 6, 11:30 am

>134 2wonderY: Unless someone pulled them out already
(which is very possible), these all seem to be just the complete series ones.

Editado: Fev 6, 11:35 am

>135 AnnieMod: Yes, Simone worked fast! Thanks!


Fev 7, 4:05 pm

... contains works by Ian Brookes, a male English-language lexicographer and grammarian (and possibly one or more others, author(s) of the Film Noir and Howard Hughes books), and Sian Brooke, a female actor, including as Aemma Arryn in the Game of Thrones prequel House of the Dragon. Under the LT way of doing things, the two names share the same URL.

Is there a way to split Ian and Sian's names more fundamentally than just disambiguating between them?

Fev 7, 4:07 pm

>139 Cynfelyn: Nope.
As both names end up with the same string when you connect them as lastfirst, they share a page.

The only thing you can do is to split the author (bottom right side of the page, leads to

Fev 7, 4:10 pm

Under Author division, you can split them.

For a similar case, see

Fev 7, 4:10 pm

>140 AnnieMod: Okay. Thanks.

Fev 7, 4:27 pm

>140 AnnieMod: I'm guessing there's a reason you've just deleted the disambiguation notice?

Editado: Fev 7, 4:33 pm

>143 Cynfelyn: Oops - I was deleting the gender and swapped the disambig notice by mistake. I will recreate. Sorry :(

Fev 7, 5:03 pm

>143 Cynfelyn: >144 AnnieMod:
And done. Thanks for catching it! The Combination issues pinged for the gender and my brain shortcut a bit.

Editado: Fev 10, 7:23 pm

I was working on a couple of dictionary series (specifically Oxford: Bilingual Dictionaries (education) and Oxford: Dictionaries & References for Schools) and I just wanted to confirm that I could combine different editions of, say, the Compact Oxford-Hachette French Dictionary.

Fev 11, 11:40 am


I don't have time for this task right now, so I'm posting this here in the hope that someone can help:

The German audiobook of Stephen King's The Stand, published by Lübbe Audio in 2012 (ISBNs: 978-3785749562 and 978-3838769660) and also available from Audible (ASIN: B00T5H5UKY), is currently combined with the 1978 abridged version ( In fact, however, it should be combined with the unabridged version (

Best regards,

Fev 12, 6:35 pm

>146 superboy: I may be in a minority among Combiners! on LT, but given our focus on content as the determining consideration for combining or separating, I'm inclined to separate editions where we can and note their relationship, possibly in a series. (I grant that's not series' primary purpose.)

>147 ElBarto: These look to be fixed now; please confirm or advise. Thanks!

Fev 13, 6:34 am

Fev 13, 2:30 pm

>148 jasbro: Thanks.

In that case, I'll leave them uncombined.

Fev 16, 3:55 pm

>148 jasbro: Not completely, at least my edition ( is still combined with the wrong work

Fev 16, 4:37 pm

>151 ElBarto: How about now?

Fev 21, 1:41 am

I was wondering if, for large series (eg 'Star Wars' or DK Readers) there is a quick way to add in sub-series as a whole without just merging them, which would lose the separate listing of the sub-series? Apart from going through and adding them one by one, of course.

Mar 1, 3:52 pm

If someone, especially someone who speaks/reads German, is looking for a project Heinrich Böll can use some assistance. I am slowly chipping at the most obvious things but there are a lot of works that need combinations, assigning, setting relationships and so on.

Mar 1, 3:53 pm

>153 humouress: Not really. The fastest may be to add them to the workbench and add into the other series from there but that's about it.

Mar 2, 12:30 am

>155 AnnieMod: Okay, thanks.

Editado: Mar 6, 6:25 pm

>154 AnnieMod: Thanks for this. I'm partial to Heinrich Böll and will gladly help as I can. Any idea why he's currently on a disambiguation page that currently distinguishes between him (1) and himself (unknown)?

Editado: Mar 6, 6:29 pm

>157 jasbro: Read the disambig note? :) There is a #2 in there somewhere: Dutch(?) medical doctor apparently had been on the page once upon a time causing the need for the page to be split. Now it is under (which has a crazy disambig note that should be deleted I think...)

PS: Thanks for working on it. If you think all belong to our author, that makes it easier on assignments but not on combinations - that will be fun...

Mar 6, 6:45 pm

>158 AnnieMod: I suspect that's one of those cases where Collectorator forced a primary author on a work so as to avoid split authors if at all possible. Both entries for that work have merely Heinrich Boll, no Dr in the name. Not sure how whoever works on this wants to treat it, but thought I'd mention. If left to calculated author name, there should still be a split.

Mar 6, 7:05 pm

>159 SandraArdnas: Yeah, I did not look more closely on how it left the split but I am not surprised. And then that note which was written by the same person makes even less sense. Oh well.

Sounds like the split needs to stand anyway...

Editado: Mar 6, 9:29 pm

>158 AnnieMod:, >159 SandraArdnas: Thanks again to you both. No, I hadn't noticed the disambig (mea culpa, mea culpa!), and given the apparent author's actual name on Sexuele Variaties, I'm not at all sure that they're all our author. I vote for deleting the crazy disambig on Dr. Heinrich Böll, "re-forcing" the author as stated in the work records, and properly distinguishing "our" Heinrich Böll (1) from the good Dutch Dr. Heinrich Böll (2). Just because I have no interest in the latter (not speaking nor reading Dutch, if no other reason) doesn't mean I should have to go hunting for a record that's not evident, as expected according to customary LT practices. Y'all's thoughts?

ETA: Without limitation, also see the Series, Heinrich Bölls Werke,

Editado: Mar 6, 10:16 pm

Please advise: this
seems to be an audio dramatisation of this

Should they be combined?

Mar 6, 11:52 pm

>161 jasbro: I vote yes for the disambig notice removal and for getting this poor record back to where one would expect to find it.

And I am fine with the series - I'd make it a publisher series just in case the same combination of works is published together again outside of that specific series but a regular series also works.

Mar 6, 11:55 pm

>162 humouress: I don't think that they should be combined - we don't combine the novel War and Peace and a BBC dramatization for radio; I don't think we should treat graphic novels and their audio-dramatizations differently just because it started as a comics and not as a novel.

Mar 7, 12:44 pm

Mar 8, 9:32 pm

>164 AnnieMod: Fair enough. I wasn't sure because the wiki indicated it probably should, but I will leave it uncombined. Makes sense.

Mar 8, 9:36 pm

>166 humouress: Can you post a link to the wiki page that hints at that?

Graphic novels’ audio books are always dramatizations (or at least I cannot think of how it will work in a different way - if the art is unimportant and just reading is enough, it is an illustrated novel/story and not a graphic one/comics IMO). Audio versions that are the same as the text versions are combined; these things are adaptations basically and we never combine these. :)

Mar 8, 9:47 pm

>167 AnnieMod: Huh; oddly, I can't find it at the moment. 🤗 Will look again.

Mar 11, 5:38 am

Looks as if an edition with only Nettles might have been combined with ones containing other works as well. I know there's at least one other member whose book like my own has three novellas, as I took my cover from ones contributed by members. Thanks.

Mar 11, 5:45 am

Mar 14, 10:02 am

I tried to separate two books which had been wrongly combined but the tags and covers ended up with the wrong book. Is it possible to move them?

and Mr Men Love by Roger Hargreaves

Editado: Mar 14, 10:10 am

Just wait. Getting covers and tags sorted out takes time. If you check the individual copies, they have the cover and tags. The work will catch up.

Mar 14, 10:22 am

>172 MarthaJeanne: Okay, thanks.

Mar 14, 10:26 am

Oh dear, this is embarrassing. I combined two series: Doedeldiedam with Timbuctoo and only after that I realised that 'Doedeldiedam' says it has just the first 12 books of 'Timbuctoo' translated from English to Dutch. So should they be combined or not?

Mar 14, 10:53 am

>174 superboy: I think it depends on whether the works are the same. If the Dutch version doesn't have split volumes, different ordering or something else that would make the series page messy, it should be fine IMO.

Editado: Mar 17, 4:35 pm

>175 SandraArdnas: Thanks. I'll leave them combined then.

Editado: Mar 17, 4:30 pm

>172 MarthaJeanne: The covers are fine now but the tags are still for the wrong book. Can I do anything about that?

Mar 17, 4:44 pm

>177 superboy: Wait it out. May take a few days for tags.

Mar 17, 4:49 pm

Mar 22, 8:01 pm

Moscow Circles by Venedikt Erofeev has an adapted by credit on it (to a one act play by Stephen Mulrine), but it seems clear that at least the bulk of the works are the unadapted version. Can someone more familiar with the subject separate out the plays and remove that adapter credit?

Editado: Mar 31, 12:46 pm

This thread is CLOSED. Please continue our discussions at Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #85 {Part II} -- Thank you!