Can someone explain this disambig notice?


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Can someone explain this disambig notice?

Dez 8, 2022, 12:01 pm

"Rosina Lippi, Rosina Lippi-Green, and Sara Donati are the same author but they SHOULD NOT BE COMBINED. Rosina Lippi writes fiction; Rosina Lippi-Green writes academic articles and books; Sara Donati writes historical novels. Please do not combine the three names into one listing."

Why wouldn't we combine those works on one page?

Editado: Dez 8, 2022, 12:07 pm

I wondered if one of those names might be shared with another author. (That's why Iain Banks and Iain M. Banks are aliased rather than combined; there's another Iain Banks who is a different person.) However, this doesn't seem to be the case.

Dez 8, 2022, 12:07 pm

No, that's incorrect. If they are all the same person, and no one else uses any of those names, then they should be combined regardless of whether different names are used for different genres

Dez 8, 2022, 12:09 pm

It looks like lilithcat, who usually knows what going on, wrote the disambig notice, so I figured there must be a good reason, though I couldn't think of any.

Editado: Dez 8, 2022, 12:14 pm

The author pages are:

Sara Donati
Rosina Lippi
Rosina Lippi-Green

Apparently it is at the author's request that three separate pages are maintained.
I have to say in the absence of any compelling argument otherwise I think they should be combined, just as any other pseudonyms are.

For some reason I can't make all three pages link.

Dez 8, 2022, 12:43 pm

>5 DuncanHill: Unfortunately, if it is per author request, I say they have to stay separate.

Dez 8, 2022, 12:52 pm

But authors can do things that are against site rules -- spamming forums, for instance.

Dez 8, 2022, 12:57 pm

>6 gilroy: If it is the same person, they should be combined - the author may wish to keep their different works separately but this is not how LT is designed.

Unless someone from LT makes an executive decision and tells us not to combine, they SHOULD be combined.

Dez 8, 2022, 12:58 pm

>6 gilroy: Since when do author preferences trump site rules? If an author requested that their translated books not be combined would we respect that?

Dez 8, 2022, 1:08 pm

>8 AnnieMod: Do you know how to call LT staff's attn to a thread? You're right that their input would be great. Or if lilithcat could tell us why she made the notice. I'll message her.

Dez 8, 2022, 1:10 pm and send a message and/or mail to Kristi for example. :)

Editado: Dez 8, 2022, 1:20 pm

Thanks! I wrote to Kristi & to lilithcat.

Dez 8, 2022, 1:51 pm

Some of the Rosina Lippi works are by Sara Donati in some territories. See eg the covers at

Dez 8, 2022, 2:10 pm

If she is publishing the same books under two names, she can hardly insist that LT keeps them separate.

Dez 8, 2022, 2:21 pm

>14 MarthaJeanne: She can hardly insist in any event. We don’t let an author use a picture of their cat as the picture on their author page, for example, no matter how adamant their request. Authors don’t set the rules.

Dez 8, 2022, 2:24 pm

Has a website with books under both names featured

Dez 8, 2022, 2:44 pm

Just back and saw susanbooks message.

It's been so long that I don't recall why I thought they should be separate. It might have been due to the author's prior disambiguation notice: Sara Donati, Rosina Lippi, and Rosina Lippi-Green are technically the same author, but THEY SHOULD NOT BE COMBINED. Sara Donati did not write most of these books listed here. Sara wrote the Wilderness books -- and nothing else. Homestead, Tied to the Tracks and The Pajama Girls of Lambert Square were written by Rosina Lippi. The academic wokrks were written by Rosina Lippi-Green. Whoever is combining these authors/works: please stop. As Rosina Lippi-Green: academic articles and books; Rosina Lippi novels, non-fiction essays; Sara Donati: historical novels. SaraH Donati is a misspelling. -- Please see Rosina's listing, where all this information has been provided.

However, I do think they should be combined, assuming there is no other author writing under one of the names.

Editado: Dez 8, 2022, 2:46 pm

lilithcat got back to me & can't remember why she wrote the disambig note (after all, it was 7 yrs ago) (oops -- posting at same time!). Given that the author lists the various names on her own page, that the names are interchangeable across regions, and that site rules require it, I'm going to combine her. Can anyone see any reason why I shouldn't?

Thanks so much for everyone's help.

Dez 8, 2022, 2:46 pm

Dez 8, 2022, 5:14 pm

If the pen names are used specifically in certain genres or fields, we can add something like (pen name used in historical fiction) after them in the other names section of the combined page to indicate this. I'll leave it to others more familiar with the author to contemplate if that's worthwhile here in this case.

Editado: Dez 9, 2022, 2:59 am

If you look at all the disambiguation notices on the “history” link you can see that the author originally posted this notice and renewed it several times under both her user names.

Dez 9, 2022, 3:03 am

>21 booksaplenty1949: In 2008 she may have been concerned about her academic credentials if her academic work and fiction were seen together. Of course, at that time it was against the TOS to have two user accounts.

Dez 9, 2022, 10:57 am

>22 MarthaJeanne: Hard to imagine that a fiction sideline would be taken as indicating lack of scholarly credibility. List of academics who also wrote mystery novels, for example, is quite long.

Dez 9, 2022, 11:47 am

>21 booksaplenty1949: Many authors who write under different names do it to purposefully keep their various writings separate, especially if they're writing something ... questionable when compared with their mainstream stuff. It worked well in the days before the internet to keep such things separate. Nowadays it's darn near impossible to do it.

Dez 9, 2022, 12:32 pm

>24 gilroy: Michael Innes and J. I. M. Stewart is perhaps the most famous, tho' I don't think he ever wrote anything questionable, or objected to people identifying the two names.

Editado: Dez 9, 2022, 12:46 pm

>25 DuncanHill: Victoria Holt, Jean Plaidy, Philippa Carr is a good example for people with other genre preferences.

Editado: Dez 9, 2022, 1:35 pm

>24 gilroy: In any event, her own disambig notice told us that she wrote under all three names, so her varied output was not being kept a secret as far as LT was concerned, which is all that is relevant here. Hard to see what the point was.

Editado: Dez 9, 2022, 1:45 pm

>24 gilroy:
Also Carolyn Heilbrun / Amanda Cross, who was the first woman granted tenure at Columbia University, in the 1960s. She left the school in 1992, famously, in disgust at how sexism continued to prevail in the granting of degrees and tenure.

>27 booksaplenty1949:
If you think that sexism is a thing of the past, you're wrong. I don't blame someone for wanting to set their popular fiction writing apart from their academic work. I know of writers who still do that right now.

Dez 9, 2022, 2:12 pm

>28 karenb: Yes, but if she wanted to do that, why put up a disambiguation notice saying “These three writers are all the same person, but please don’t combine them.” ? Without that notice we would have been far less likely to have known.

Dez 9, 2022, 2:20 pm

Apropos of Carolyn Heilbrun, I don’t think she “left… in disgust.” She retired at age 66, after 32 years at Columbia. She may well have felt that women had barriers to academic success, of course.

Dez 9, 2022, 4:18 pm

>31 karenb: Well, I suppose 66 is early retirement in her line of work. Apparently in an essay written at the time she had expressed a desire to commit suicide on her 70th birthday, but in fact she waited until she was 77. A complicated person.