Character Talk - Jack Randell

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Character Talk - Jack Randell

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Nov 10, 2006, 6:30 pm

One of the things that I hoped we could do in this group is to discuss a particular character from the series each week. This week I figured we could discuss the egnimatic Jack Randell, ancestor of Frank (Claire's Husband) and enemy to Jamie.

Any thoughts?

Do you like or dislike him? Why

What scene with him to you love/hate the most? Why?

What do you think about the fact that Ms. Gabaldon has said that Randell is the most like her of any character? Does this make you feel differently about either of them?

Have fun - Jessa

Nov 10, 2006, 10:51 pm

I never particularly disliked Jack, despite the things he did. I'm not quite sure why; there is just something about his character that told me from the beginning he was not as evil as one might originally presume. He is obviously a complex person with a many-layered personality.

I don't feel any differently about either Jack or Ms. Gabaldon knowing that he is most like her. I would think that the characters a writer creates would have a part of her in them.

Editado: Nov 13, 2006, 9:00 pm

Jack Randal gives me the creeps. No matter how many times I read the series, (and I seem to need to repeat it every two or three years) I am relieved when he is finally out of the picture. My real problem with him is that he ruins Frank for me just a little bit. I always see bits of him in Frank, and it bothers me.

As to whether or not I am bothered by Ms. Gabaldon's statement that she is most like Black Jack, I was taken back a bit. After reading that, it would pop into my mind, as I was reading, at odd times during the series.

Nov 14, 2006, 11:12 am

dulc - I feel the same way about Frank and Jack. After being intoduced to Jack, it made it so easy to see Frank as a bad guy especially when Claire thinks back to their marriage after she came back from Jamie.

Nov 14, 2006, 2:20 pm

I agree that there's more to Jack than mere sadism. There are times when I feel sorry for him. His relationship - however odd - with his brother is one of the things that makes me feel for him. It would be interesting to see if she could write a side story that involved their younger years.

He did color my perception of Frank, making me like Frank less, but then Frank went on to disappoint me all by himself later in his marriage to Claire.

Nov 14, 2006, 11:43 pm

While I dislike Jack Randall for what he did to Jamie, he adds so much to the story. As a writer myself, I am in awe of Ms. Gabaldon's ability to write such a complex character without coloring him as all bad. She causes you to feel sympathy for him in spite of Jamie, when his brother is dying. Just amazing.

As for Frank, I disliked him right from the beginning and can't really say why. I guess I saw immediately that he and Claire weren't suited for each other. When she meets Jamie it was like, "click". It's funny how the "modern" man takes his woman more for granted than the "barbarian". Makes you think, doesn't it?

Abr 17, 2008, 6:21 pm

I hated the Jack Randall character, mainly for what he didto poor Jamie, and Claire, he made me sick. But I am happy that through the whole ordeal Jamie was able to come through and defeat his Jack Randall demons.

Abr 18, 2008, 7:28 am

Give some men power and they abuse it. He did. I can't say that I fault him for wanting can you fault anyone for wanting him?..male or female.