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What do you think of these Algonquin titles?

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Jul 22, 2008, 12:42pm

Here's a list (in no particular order) that just barely touches on some of the books that Algonquin has published since it first began in 1983. See anything that tickled your fancy or ruffled your feathers? Let's hear about it!

Water for Elephants by Sara Gruen
Educating Esme by Esme Raji Codell
Flower Confidential by Amy Stewart
Wolf Whistle and Music of the Swamp by Lewis Nordan
Gap Creek and Boone: A Biography by Robert Morgan
Candyfreak by Steve Almond
Coal Black Horse by Robert Olmstead
Facing the Music by Larry Brown
Enslaved by Ducks by Bob Tarte
If You Lived Here, I'd Know Your Name by Heather Lende
If You Want Me to Stay by Michael Parker
Last Child in the Woods by Richard Louv
Lunch at the Piccadilly by Clyde Edgerton
On Agate Hill by Lee Smith
New Stories from the South series
Saving the World by Julia Alvarez

Jul 22, 2008, 11:54pm

My favorite books from this list are {Gap Creek} and {Water for Elephants}. I'm definitely interested in reading {Enslaved by Ducks}. It sounds like the perfect book for any animal lover.

Jul 29, 2008, 1:55pm

I am a long-time admirer of all things Algonquin. I will generally read anything that I know is published by Algonquin. Ages ago their books were small in size, which set them apart and made them easily identifiable. Now they are the same size as every other publisher, but if I know it's an Algonquin book, I will want it immediately. I loved Water for Elephants and On Agate Hill, and plan to add those others on this list to my TBR pile.

Jul 29, 2008, 3:37pm

We still sneak in those small books when we can. we have one coming out in October called Doctor Olaf van Schuler's Brain by Kirsten Menger-Anderson. It's a quirky novel--a series of vignettes--each one taking on a different generation in a family of doctors. Such a great read and a fascinating examination (if even in novel form) of medicine through the ages.

Granted, at this point in the game, I'm biased (since I now work for Algonquin), but prior to joining their ranks (back in the days of bookselling), I knew I could trust an Algonquin title. I'm so excited to hear that others feel the same!

Jul 29, 2008, 3:41pm

I don't pay very much attention to who publishes the books I read, so I didn't know that Candyfreak was published by Algonquin. It is a great book - witty and fascinating.

I don't recall reading any of the rest, but Water for Elephants is floating around my house somewhere waiting to be read.

Jul 29, 2008, 3:58pm

I'm with you--prior to entering the book industry world, I didn't pay attention to who was publishing what. Now that I'm in that world, I watch those things. Regardless, I still feel that Algonquin has something different going for it. I guess much of it comes from Algonquin's presence in the South, which I became aware of when I moved to Chapel Hill, NC from Bellingham, WA last year. And for a little guy publisher who can keep up with the big boys, I'd like to see that recognition grow.

Editado: Jul 29, 2008, 4:13pm

Perhaps it means less to me because I'm Canadian, and the majority of our books come from America, so I'm not that invested in who publishes them. There are precious few well-known Canadian publishing houses, and the best known are those that are offshoots of big American ones, ie Random House Canada.

ETA: I'm Canadian enough that I'm only guessing WA is for Washington. :)

Jul 29, 2008, 4:53pm

I had the opportunity to read Kirsten's forthcoming book and loved it. My background is in psychology and mental health, so I found the book especially fascianting. Many of the vignettes explored medical procedures I'd heard about in my training. And of course, Kirsten is a wonderful writer with an original voice.

Jul 29, 2008, 5:12pm

Doctor Olaf van Schuler's Brain by Kirsten Menger-Anderson is one that I have here to read and review. I have tried 4 times to read it. So far I have gotten no farther than page 35. I am having a very hard time with it. And I like quirky!

Tomato Girl on the other hand was easy to fall into, and I read it in one day. Between Here and April , I loved.

Gap Creek is on my TBR short stack. It was given to me by a friend.

I also have not yet read Water for Elephants, I keep picking it up but I am afraid it is too sad....

Jul 29, 2008, 5:43pm

Oh, goodness, if you can handle Tomato Girl, I don't think you'll find Water for Elephants too sad at all. The ending is very tender, sweet, and uplifting.

Thanks for mentioning Between here and April. as that's one I want to remember to read when it becomes available.

Gap Creek is excellent.

Incidentally, I'll be doing an AuthorChat here September 3rd-17th. I hope some of you can stop by to talk.



Jul 29, 2008, 7:19pm

I really enjoyed On Agate Hill, - I was trying to tell someone about and could not think of the name or the author! So glad it was listed here. Now if I could only remember the title for the other book!

Editado: Jul 30, 2008, 6:52am

I can't help but think that I am meant to read Water for Elephants..I have never bought it, but two have been given to me. I mooched one away, but have one on my shelf. Whenever I am looking for another book it sort of jumps up and down and waves......

One of the best things for me, about ARCs is discovery. When books show up to be read and reviewed, mostly they are books that I would probably not pick up for whatever reason. But many of them have turned into books that I enjoy a lot, and given me new authors for my always buy list.

I admit that sometimes it is the cover art that keeps me from bothering to look at a book. That cartoony look that is so popular really bugs me ( think Sophie Kinsella)

Jul 30, 2008, 8:14am

Hee-hee, yes, WA is for Washington. I do the same thing with Canadian abbreviations!

Jul 30, 2008, 8:17am

I've yet to read On Agate Hill, but Lee Smith is hands down one of the nicest women I've met. She is total Southern charm.

Jul 30, 2008, 10:31am

Lucky you, I would love to meet her, she's a great author! As much as I read, I could not imagine actually writing a book, what discipline and creativity it would take.

Jul 30, 2008, 12:55pm

Enslaved by Ducks looks good! I will have to add that one to my wish list...

Jul 30, 2008, 2:57pm

A Dangerous Age By Ellen Gilchrist

Verbena by Nanci Kincaid

I want to read both of these.

Jul 30, 2008, 4:59pm

Boon is looking good. I started Gap Creek this afternoon. Its good..sad...

Jul 30, 2008, 5:38pm

I evidently haven't read very many Algonquin books, but I have loved the two I've read, both of which I reviewed on my blog. Water For Elephants was my first Algonquin book and I was able to get past the sad parts pretty easily and I agree with Message 10 that the ending is quite sweet.

The other Algonquin book I've read isn't on your list because it isn't out yet, but I received My Father's Paradise from LibraryThing Early Reviewers and I thought it was absolutely awesome (I see others thought so too, the average rating is almost 4.5).

Jul 30, 2008, 6:02pm

Algonquin publishes "The Algonkian," a newsletter featuring essays by authors whose books are forthcoming. Ariel Sabar, author of My Father's Paradise has an essay in the most recent issue. Here's the link:


Editado: Jul 30, 2008, 6:05pm

Thanks! Do you have a link to sign up to receive it as well?

Jul 30, 2008, 6:26pm

I've always read "The Algonkian" online, so I'm not sure how one receives a hard copy. Lindsey will likely be able to answer that question.

Jul 30, 2008, 7:17pm

Hi, I'm new to the group and just wanted to say hello and add a little to the discussion.

I also just finished reading My Father's Paradise and posted a review for Early Reviewers. I thought it was a fabulous book. I read a lot about the Middle East and this was terrific.

Water for Elephants is one of my all time favorites.
Lee Smith is one of my favorite southern authors, so I guess my next book should be On Agate Hill.
Nice to be in this group!!!!

Jul 31, 2008, 7:40am

A book quite often overlooked--or perhaps it was often overlooked by me--is Wolf Whistle by Lewis Nordan. I had random people telling me about this book throughout the years--my cousin, a guy I dated, a co-worker--then when I came to work for Algonquin, I saw a copy and grabbed it. While reading it on a plane, this lovely older couple beside me asked about it. We got into this great discussion and, because I was near the end of the book by this point, I quickly finished it and handed it to them. A month later, I received a thank from them for the book, which they also loved! And, for that member who's partial to the smaller size of book that Algonquin was known for--this book is that handy size.

Jul 31, 2008, 7:57am

What a great newsletter, I just finished reading it and of course added several more books to my list that I need to read. Thanks for the link.

Jul 31, 2008, 8:30am

So glad to hear that you enjoyed the newsletter. Before I wrote my essay, I read through back issues to get ideas flowing, and discovered a couple books I may have otherwise missed.

My most recent Algonquin read is Mudbound by Hillary Jordan. It's narrated in several voices, which I really like, and is a haunting and moving tale.

Jul 31, 2008, 3:39pm

Mudbound has some very interesting reviews here~ will have to explore this one... it does sound good.

I added Wolf Whistle to my wishlist at Amazon...

Ago 1, 2008, 8:19am

Mudbound is one of those haunting and disturbing novels that stays with you. It certainly makes you think. Jordan's writing is wonderful--the pace is perfect, and she captures each voice with such precision.

Ago 3, 2008, 5:13pm

The initial posting forgot Ellen Foster by Kaye Gibbons. This was Oprah's first book club title, and it was the book that introduced me to Algonquin. I have collected their fiction ever since. We have 151 Algonquin titles (almost all are fiction), and I have loved everyone. I especially like the original small format size. Reminds me of 19th century fiction, a window seat on a frosty afternoon, with some hot chocolate, a dog dozing nearby, and, and, sorry, I dropped in my reverie for a moment! But you get the idea.


Ago 3, 2008, 5:15pm

For good or bad (too early to tell!), Algonquin is now part of Workman, so the "little guy" has been swallowed by a big guy. Let's just hope he doesn't get digested!


Ago 3, 2008, 5:17pm

Message 20:

At one time, this came in the mail -- I have the first 12 or 15 issues, but then it went on line. I know this is a cost saving thing, but the little pamphlets were really neato/keeno/peachy!


Editado: Ago 4, 2008, 9:02am

Ellen Foster was my first Algonquin Book, too, and it remains my favorite to date. Kaye Gibbons is an awesome storyteller. I never read the follow-up that covers Ellen's life later, because I was too afraid that a sequel would be disappointing.

Ago 4, 2008, 9:07am

according to the reviews on Amazon, the sequel was indeed disappointing.
I bought Ellen Foster yesterday and I blame Jim.

Ago 4, 2008, 6:42pm

I'm glad I skipped the sequel, then. I saw the film version of Ellen Foster and didn't like that much either. The book just can't be approved. It's wonderful.

Editado: Ago 4, 2008, 8:01pm

I actually decided to order Wolf Whistle based on the chat here and other reviews. Has anyone read Coal Black Horse? This is also about a 14 year old boy. Just curious. The reviews are stellar.

Ago 5, 2008, 1:24pm

I have not read Coal Black Horse, but am in the middle of Robert Olmstead's next book Far Bright Star, which comes out next May. I'm enjoying it--it's reminiscent of Lonesome Dove and Leif Enger's So Brave, Young and Handsome. Coal Black Horse is one of those books that keep getting pushed down my to-read list, only because so many others keep popping up. But I do love those sort of gritty Old West books, so I should move it back up toward the top.

Ago 5, 2008, 7:13pm

I loved Ellen Foster and I reviewed The Life all around me by Ellen Foster sequel as I received a copy for our school library. I loved the sequel but felt that it could not stand on its own. You had to read the first book first.

I never saw the movie and probably would not.

I love Esme Codell. Saw her when Sahara Special was published. She was so kind to my daughter who went with a group of teachers to a reading, and then came to our school the next day and performed for all the 4th graders completely gratis. It was amazing and the kids will remember it always. We had 20 copies in our library and they were always out.

I have Saving the World on my TBR pile and I love her other works.

Ago 5, 2008, 9:35pm

I love Larry Brown. I hope that someone publishes a "Collected Stories of Larry Brown" soon.

Ago 6, 2008, 12:00pm

Which is your favorite Brown novel? I love Fay, but there are others I have yet to read.

Ago 6, 2008, 12:08pm

Ellen Foster arrived today!

Ago 6, 2008, 12:36pm

I can't wait to hear what you think of it! I'm betting that you will LOVE Ellen Foster.

Ago 6, 2008, 2:23pm

#39: My favorite Brown novel is still Joe. I grew more fond of A Miracle of Catfish on my second reading.

Ago 6, 2008, 3:58pm

Larry Brown fans might like to know that the most recent issue of The Oxford American features a page of Epitaphs of Ten Southern Writers: Poe, Twain, Wolfe, Mencken, Rawlings, Hurston, Faulkner, Tennessee Williams, Willie Morris, and Larry Brown (in good company). His epitaph: "THE ROAD GOES ON FOREVER"
OxAm says it's the title of a Robert Earl Keen song, "...Brown dabbled in guitar, though his friends playfully critiqued his playing, claiming he refused to learn more than three chords. Maybe that's because 'The Road Goes On Forever' only requires three chords: A, G, and D."

Ago 6, 2008, 4:41pm

I put it near the top of my TBRs. I will get Mudbound next week. I spent my disposable few dollars from my pay for this time. sigh...so many books so little money.....

Ago 6, 2008, 10:05pm

I had testing in the hospital all day yesterday and brought Mudbound with me. I started reading it and whenever I had to put it down, I got so annoyed.
Imagine that? How dare they interrupt my reading time. LOL The book is great!

Ago 6, 2008, 10:12pm

The Road Goes On Forever is a great epitaph and a great Robert Earl Keen song. On Keen's last album he dedicated the traditional song A Border Tragedy to Larry Brown.

Ago 11, 2008, 12:17pm

I haven't read any of them! Water for Elephants is ubiquitous and I've been interested in reading it for a while, but not interested enough to buy it. Oops!

Ago 12, 2008, 1:15am

I finished Mudbound and I still have it coursing through my head. Fabulous story, yes disturbing, but honest, horrific and believable. I couldn't put it down and loved the story. I reviewed it on my blog


Also to bostonbibliophile...It's worth buying and I believe it is due out in paperback if not already. I loved it!!! Many people are using it as a reading group selection. I doubt you will be sorry.

Ago 12, 2008, 7:35am

Hi, I just joined.
I have a copy of Water for Elephants, which is currently hiding in one of my TBR mountains, and I will go hunting for it soon.
I don't have any other titles, but I should get My Father's Paradise soon, which promises to be a very interesting read!

Ago 12, 2008, 8:44am

Your blog is gorgeous, Donna, and your review of Mudbound very well done. It's probably my favorite Algonquin book after Ellen Foster.

Ago 12, 2008, 4:39pm

Wow! Thank you Jayne. That means quite a lot to me coming from a writer like yourself.

I can't wait to read Tomato Girl, I have heard so many good things about it. I read the reviews on LT and the readers all love it.

Yes, Mudbound is a wonderful book. I have to read Ellen Foster. Thanks for the invites today. :-)

Ago 13, 2008, 4:10pm

New here, Water For Elephants is one of my all time favorite books. I would love to read Tomato Girl and Mudbound. They sound like my type of book!

Ago 13, 2008, 4:24pm

I cannot talk highly enough about both books. Mudbound was just chosen by Barbara Kingsolver as the winner of the Bellwether Prize in 2007, which is given to a previously unpublished book that invokes moral and social responsibility. We were all so excited for Hillary! And Tomato Girl. Just such a page turner. Terribly tragic and difficult story, but still so lined with love and gentleness.

Ago 13, 2008, 4:39pm

Ellen Foster was very good, I read it yesterday

Ago 13, 2008, 7:41pm

Couldn't take it anymore. I had to order Tomato Girl and Ellen Foster. It's a sickness I know. Good thing we are all in therapy at Library Thing. :-)

PS: Jane, Do you mind questions from readers?

Ago 14, 2008, 8:52am

Aha! The powers of persuasion! Really, it's the powers of camaraderie in the reading community. I still haven't read Ellen Foster, but I'm thinking it's time to grab a copy as well since there's been so much talk about it.

Ago 14, 2008, 9:00am

Hi Donna, Thanks for ordering Tomato Girl! I see that the book is now in stock at Amazon and B&N.

Ellen Foster is a gem. I hope you enjoy it.

Yes, I welcome questions from readers, so ask away. I'm also scheduled for an Author Chat here on LibraryThing beginning September 3.

Ago 14, 2008, 6:06pm

I just finished reading Heather Lende's If You Lived Here, I'd Know Your Name. I loved it. Tonight it is the book being discussed at book group. If thoughtful, mostly gentle vignettes about small town Alaska appeals, I would recommend it.

Ago 16, 2008, 12:18pm

Both books should be here soon, so hopefully I can chat with you about Tomato Girl when you are on Author Chat in September.

Ago 17, 2008, 9:56pm

A few friends who pre-ordered copies recieved their books yesterday, so perhaps yours will arrive Monday or Tuesday. I'm looking forward to the Author Chat, too.

Ago 28, 2008, 10:50am

Many of these titles are on my wish list! I enjoyed Water for Elephants very much and reviewed it here and on my blog. Lee Smith and Julia Alvarez have both been authors I'm interested in checking out.

Ago 28, 2008, 7:32pm

I finally started reading Ellen Foster, after many of this group's members raved and raved about it. Even working at Algonquin, I still have Algonquin titles recommended to me. It's great! Thus far I really like it. I can definitely see a similarity to Tomato Girl. I have an affinity for novels with young protagonists.

Ago 29, 2008, 8:07am

I thought you'd like Ellen Foster. Of course, I think everyone should love it since it's one of my favorites. I just picked up a copy of Dorothy on the Rocks by Barbara Suter. My waiting to read stack is a mile high, so I may not get to it for a few weeks, but it sounds like a spirited and light-hearted story that will be a good change of pace for me. From Algonquin's website: "Dorothy on the Rocks is the story of a funny, lovable, totally self-destructive woman who, after a night of one-drink-too-many, wakes up with a strange man in her bed: confident, handsome, sexy, twenty-eight-year-old Jack. What happens next is what makes Barbara Suter's coming-of-middle-age tale so much fun."

Ago 30, 2008, 12:47pm

When I received Dorothy On the Rocks, my eyes rolled back into my head and I considered weeping.

I thought it was going to be terrible. ( based partly on the cover, you know how it is , and partly on the title !?) It was not. I was pleasantly surprised and quite entertained. I gave it to my sister who felt the same. It is a fun read.

Ago 30, 2008, 7:57pm

I'm glad to hear it! When I come up for air again, I'll need a fun read. (I liked the cover, but then I'm a fan of The Wizard of Oz)

Set 5, 2008, 10:03pm

At Barnes & Noble today I bought Enslaved By Ducks ! I'm really looking forward to reading it !

Set 8, 2008, 2:00pm

I haven't read Enslaved by Ducks, but I keep hearing how hilarious the book is--very Dave Barryish. You'll have to let me know what you think. A book I highly recommend is Which Brings Me to You by Steve Almond and Julianna Baggott. This book appeals to both my "relationships stink" side and my "I can't wait to meet the one" side. It's written as an ongoing conversation between two people who nearly hook up at a wedding, then decide they may have a chance at the real deal, so pull back and opt for getting to know each other through a series of long-winded confessions. I adore this book.

Set 8, 2008, 2:30pm

I really enjoyed Educating Esme, but my favorite Algonquin book, and one that I reference all the time, I think has to be How to Get Your Child to Love Reading. I know it's not on your list, but it's just such a fantastic resource. I've given several copies as gifts to fellow homeschool moms, and I've gushed about it to anyone who'll listen.

Set 8, 2008, 2:35pm

>68 virginiahomeschooler:, Oooh, I'm not a mom yet, but I WANT THAT! As a former primary school teacher I'm very interested in what they have to say, particularly since the book has such a good rating. I'm off to add it to my wishlist!

Set 8, 2008, 4:19pm

>69 DevourerOfBooks:

To be honest, I've gotten book suggestions for myself out of there as well. It's geared towards parents and teachers of public (and private) schooled children, mainly (lots of tips on how to get involved with the school - fundraisers and such, and engaging large groups of children with books), but her ideas are so wonderful, and of course there are the book lists. It's intoxicating really.

Set 8, 2008, 4:20pm

If you like books about education, we have a one coming out this fall called Work Hard Be Nice by Jay Mathews. It's about the founders of the KIPP program, which I'd never heard of but now have learned so much about and am really impressed by the work these two young guys have done for low-income students. You can read more about the book at Algonquin's site (www.algonquin.com)

Set 8, 2008, 4:51pm

>71 lmcguirk:

And it's an LT Early Reviewer book for this month.

Set 8, 2008, 5:37pm

>71 lmcguirk:,

I'm actually an alum of Teach for America, the program where Mike and Dave started before founding KIPP so I know a fair amount about them. I'm very interested in it, but I didn't sign up for it in Early Reviewers, because there were other things I found interesting and I thought there was a good choice I'd be matched with Work Hard Be Nice instead because of my library. I would be interested in reviewing it, though.

Set 22, 2008, 8:21pm

I had no idea Ellen Foster was an Algonquin. I read it when it first came out years ago and it remains a lifetime favourite. I have recently acquired Water for Elephants and look forward to that.

Set 22, 2008, 11:27pm

I'm reading Doctor Olaf van Schuler's Brain now and find it really well written. The 'generational' stories are engrossing (well I'm only on page 50) and quick to read.

Editado: Out 15, 2008, 11:21am

I read Tomato Girl and loved it. I have Gap Creek and Water for Elephants to read. Today I got the music teacher which is an ARC.

Wow Ellen Foster too is from Algonquin? Didn't know that. I have that book in my to read pile too.

Out 15, 2008, 6:25pm

I see you say it is an LT Early Reviewer book for this month, but alas, every month I get the sorry you didn't win this month try again and I do but after 6 months, am beginning to take it personally. Am I doing something wrong? Is there a trick? Also, can I buy Tomato Girl online at Amazon, did I hear that, as I must read it after all this discussion.

Out 16, 2008, 1:05pm

I think the Early Reviewer books are a random thing...sometimes you'll receive one and sometimes not. At least that's how it seems to work.

And yes, you can definitely buy Tomato Girl at Amazon. I'd love to hear your thoughts when you have a chance to read it.

Out 16, 2008, 5:16pm

I didn't like Gap Creek. I did read and enjoy Enslaved by Ducks, and Fowl Weather.

Out 19, 2008, 9:45am


I have a copy of Ellen Foster on mooch if anyone wants it. Link from my profile..

Out 24, 2008, 11:33am

I loved Ellen Foster and Water for Elephants. I have On Agate Hill on my shelf waiting to be read. I also added Tomato Girl to my wishlist.

Out 24, 2008, 1:25pm

I received an ARC of The Music Teacher just a few days ago. From the very first page, this book grabbed me. The character of Pearl Swain, a violinist who probably could have had a major career if she had been properly mentored, molded and educated, rings true in so many ways. She is an artist who has suffered for her talent. She is a teacher who is at times completely dedicated to her students and at times going through the motions and just "phoning it in." She is a 40 year old divorced woman who has some issues with self-confidence and her ability to be in a stable, healthy and loving relationship. But, what really grabbed me about this book is how Barbara Hall describes what music means to a true musician. The simplicity of her language and the beauty of her description was so completely satisfying. I wanted to take notes! Usually I don't pay any attention to the publisher of the books I read, but after reading this one I decided to check out this online group. Wow - I didn't know that some of my recent favorites are published by Algonquin! Water for Elephants, On Agate Hill are also really satisfying books. Great stories masterfully told! After reading the posts here, I've added a bunch of Algonquin books to my TBR list. Thanks!

Out 26, 2008, 11:01pm

ctiker - I'm so jealous! I wasn't able to get a review copy of The Music Teacher so I'll just have to wait awhile to read it when it comes out. I did just finish Tomato Girl and LOVED it!

Out 31, 2008, 1:54pm

82: ctiker
I snagged The Music Teacher through LTER and it prompted me, too, to check out this group! I'm really liking the novel ... just 30 pages till I finish and now I find I'm stalling, don't want it to end. As #3pdebolt wrote, Ages ago (Algonquin) books were small in size, which set them apart and made them easily identifiable -- The Music Teacher is also small; not sure if that's just because it's an arc, but I noticed it and especially liked that aspect, it feels intimate.

Nov 6, 2008, 7:27pm

#83 Thank you, Lisa! I appreciate the wonderful review you wrote as well.

Dez 3, 2008, 6:39am

I received My Father's Paradise a while back and I absolutely loved it. The story just drags you in and it's a piece of history I never knew existed.

Candyfreak is amusing and entertaining. it's an easy read and highlights the decline of localised food and sweets.

I received The Music Teacher recently from Algonquin, but I must say that I found the book to be irritating. The main character needed a good sharp quick kick up the backside to stop her being the idiot she was. I know others will not agree with me, but I still enjoyed being given the opportunity to read a book I might not otherwise have picked up.

Dez 3, 2008, 6:59am

LOL #86 you said
"but I must say that I found the book to be irritating. The main character needed a good sharp quick kick up the backside to stop her being the idiot she was"

I often think that! I hate it when authors make their main character an idiot..
I thought that book was pretty good, but some books.. i just figure that the idiot is getting whatever s/he deserves for not paying more attention to their lives and having more common sense..

I have not read Paradise.. I have it.. I cannot bring myself to read it just now..
I will though..