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1misericordia
Set 2, 2008, 4:26pm

I have the Following Unique Books:

1 The rules of the game Derek Barton
2 Games of the world how to make them, how to play them, how they came to be
3 The Great escape; a source book of delights & pleasures for the mind & body
4 Truth and lies that press for life : sixty Los Angeles poets
5 Schaum's Easy Outline of Electric Circuits Mahmood Nahvi
6 Practical Electronics : A Self-Teaching Guide (Wiley Self-Teaching Guides)
7 Jd Edwards Enterpriseone 8.9 High Availability And Storage for the IBM Pseries Client IBM Redbooks
Redbooks, IBM
8 Wonders of the night sky F. IU. Zigel
9 Celestial Navigation Made Easy: Using a Pocket Calculator Francois Meyrier
10 Sailing and small boats J. M. Lewis
11 Teach Yourself VISUALLY Bass Guitar (Teach Yourself Visually) Ryan Williams
12 Archery Fundamentals (Sports Fundamentals Series)
13 Getting your start in flyrod fishing Keith C. Schuyler

OK the "JD Edwards Enterpriseone 8.9 High Availability And Storage for the IBM Pseries Client" is no that widely available. But IBM is not some fly by night vanity press. It shows up on Amazon! I am in no way pushing someone to go out and get this book. I don't get a dime if you buy it. Beside it was horrible out of date the day it was published.

I am really surprised by no one having a couple of these. Like Teach Yourself VISUALLY Bass Guitar. I mean seriously Teach Yourself!

OK but I am rock solid on "Truth and lies that press for life" I dare you to go out and find this book! HA!

2DaynaRT
Editado: Set 2, 2008, 4:44pm

Truth and lies that press for life, Teach Yourself VISUALLY Bass Guitar, and Games of the World have all been combined and are no longer lonely books.

3Annix
Set 2, 2008, 4:53pm

I'm down to 261 unique books today, and that's after some serious combining efforts. Yay! Please don't ask me to list the titles. I guess this site needs more people from my country (Sweden) in order for that number to decrease.

4misericordia
Set 2, 2008, 5:01pm

My number is reduced! Darn! But now I know someone else has two of my favorite books!

"Truth and Lies that press for life" and
"Games of the World" are highly under-rated.

Fleela you have like what 800 unique titles! What is up with cataloging the National Geographic? I pretty sure my mom has everything back to like 1940's. Are you going to tag the categories of articles from each issue? Hint Hint. Boy would that be useful!

5DaynaRT
Set 2, 2008, 5:03pm

>4 misericordia:
I'm not going to catalog them separately, but I do plan to include the "main" article titles (the ones that are listed on the spine) in the Comments field. Soon.

Someday.

I hope.

6misericordia
Set 2, 2008, 5:10pm

No I mean like add a tag to the issue for the article. Like maybe a tag of "Lapland" or "Whales" for articles on those subjects.

7DaynaRT
Set 2, 2008, 5:13pm

Ahhh, I'll probably do that at the same time I list the article titles.

8misericordia
Set 2, 2008, 6:42pm

Annix,

Tell your friends and neighbors!

Hmmm in a private Library how can we be sure they aren't all variation on " Modern-Day Vikings: A Practical Guide to Interacting with the Swedes" ? Oh well no rule against private libraries...have work on that.

So far with 261 you are the Second most Unique member in the group! Fleela has 800 but has not really laid claim to the title most Unique user, yet!

9misericordia
Set 2, 2008, 6:53pm

HA! I should get one of my Unique books back!
I share the book "Teach Yourself VISUALLY Bass Guitar" with the user windsorpl. The User windsorpl is a mistake!

"Just for people who don't know, this library(windsorpl) is an error of sorts. They were trying to enter their collection into LibraryThing for Libraries—a program we have for libraries—and misunderstood. It will be removed soon.

posted by timspalding at 12:13 am (EST) on Jun 15, 2008 "

HA HA HA combined or not I am still the only fool who bought this book! My number like 11! Urrrr just freaking 11.

10sigurd
Set 2, 2008, 7:34pm

Since I'm not clever, and I'm told I have "the uniqueness" or at least my library does :-), how do I find out which books are unique?

And while i'm on this topic; why exactly does "You and None other" show books shared with one other person, rather than with no other people? :->

-esy

11DaynaRT
Set 2, 2008, 7:36pm

>10 sigurd:
Because it's a translation form a French phrase. It roughly means you two and no others.

12sigurd
Set 2, 2008, 7:40pm

Clearly, the lack of cleverness demonstrated conclusively! So, ummm... what's the French phrase?

-esy

13misericordia
Set 3, 2008, 10:14am

If you click on column "Shared" in your library display, it orders your books by the number of people you share that book with. If you click it a second time it sort it in reverse order. And whalla! You have all the books that you have and no one else has. It shows up as a little gray person icon with no number under it. count the pages and you see how many unique books you have.

Then somebody seems to come along and "combines" them. Apparently ISBN are not so unique... I am not really sure about the combining thing myself.

Yeah is "unique" is from French and Latin but it has nothing to do with "you two"...Ahh Fleela what the heck are you talking about?

14DaynaRT
Set 3, 2008, 10:27am

>13 misericordia:
I'm talking about the phrase "You and None other" which appears on the statistics page.

15misericordia
Set 3, 2008, 3:58pm

Statistics Page Wow, never looked at that before. Great stuff, no unique book count though. So riddle me this batman, why does it say "You and None other" for you and one other??? "Because it's a translation form a French phrase. It roughly means you two and no others", boy blunder. Holy bad translation batman! Do you mean
"vous deux et pas d'autres"!

16DaynaRT
Editado: Set 3, 2008, 4:05pm

It's not a bad translation. It's a French idiom that does not translate particularly well to English speakers' ears, but the site founder is fond of it nonetheless.

17misericordia
Set 3, 2008, 4:32pm

Goggle Translate! Making the "Ugly American" understood!

So fleela why not join this silly little group. We sure could use some one who understand the greater mysteries of "combining".

18Goldengrove
Set 4, 2008, 7:27am

Hi
I have 137 unique titles - although I think I'm probably ona sticky wicket with 'Martin Chuzzlewit', and 'Redbourn Reflections' is unlikely to be available 5 miles or so beyond Redbourn (a village in Hertfordshire) The others are pretty solid, I think. May I join you?

19DaynaRT
Set 4, 2008, 9:55am

>17 misericordia:
There's a Combiners group if you'd like to read about how to go about it.

>18 Goldengrove:
Less than 137 now.

20misericordia
Set 4, 2008, 10:54am

Being on the western side of the big pond I'm not sure I have ever understood the phrase "Sticky Wicket"...But "Martin Chuzzlewit" is catalog by 978 people. "Rebourn Reflections" sound like a niffty coffee table book. (Do they have coffee tables in England or are they tea tables?)

It looks to me like you have 58 unique books. Books no one else on Library Thing has cataloged. (Sort your library by "shared" and count the ones no one else has.) "Tales of the Sea" published in 1881 looks rock solid to me. Is one of those grand book with marble end papers and glorious leather bindings?

OH and thanks you for saving "Out with Romany" series. I like the comments section of your library.

Please join the group.

21KCGordon
Set 6, 2008, 5:21pm

Right now I am just a piker with my 78 uniques, mostly local histories. I started with 85, but dropped one, since it is actually a map with an ISBN and would probably result in people invoking rule 2.2.4 on me. :) I also had to pare down some privately printed books, but was wondering. If they are still available through public museums, do they count? Yes, this is a desperate attempt to get someone to let me count these. :)

22DaynaRT
Set 7, 2008, 11:37pm

>21 KCGordon:
It's late and I may have missed some, but you had several books that just needed to be combined. I count 63 or so uniques now.

23lorax
Set 8, 2008, 1:20am

18>

Gloating about your uniqueness might be more believable if you didn't boast a copy of Hard Times by one "Charles Duckens". (The author page is redirecting now, but the work doesn't show up on Dickens' page yet, so I can't combine. I'll try again tomorrow.)

It's not that one book makes such a difference, it's that finding something like that makes me question how carefully you've checked any of your data.

24misericordia
Set 8, 2008, 1:20pm

23>
Och
...Dickens, Duckens OK.

Gloating...Clear falls under rule 2.2.4

Come on Lorax it's a learning process. See >20 misericordia:. Besides, "Annual Report of the Smithsonian Institution, 1925" and "The Thomas Guide 2006 Los Angeles County", unique? Sure.

Let's not even start a discussion of pejorative tagging of content.

25misericordia
Set 8, 2008, 1:38pm

21> (Took me a while... the 21 refers back to the message number 21)

KCGordon, I looked seems like your down to like maybe 63. Those darn combiner! (I really am going to have to figure them out.)

You have some really interesting books!

"Handy" The Leaders' Loose-Leaf Notes for Church-Centered Social-Recreation, is this a bound book? I would love a bound book that is called "Loose-Leaf", funny.

Knots: A Complete Guide by Lindsey Philpott, why is it so many knot books are "Complete Guide" or Ultimate knot book. "Ashley Book of Knots" is the most complete and ultimate knot book. I noticed you didn't have a copy. Also there is a good book I like "The Marlinspike Sailor " by Hervey Garrett Smith. It appears to be reprint of articles he previously wrote. I used it to make a bumper for my father boat.

Otherwise nice library KCGordon. Thanks for joining the group and welcome.

26devious_dantes
Editado: Set 8, 2008, 1:59pm

I've got 13 unique titles. Most of them I've entered by ISBN, but a few of them I haven't. Return of the Jedi, at least, I'll need to clean up be entering it by the ISBN. It probably won't be unique after that. Some of these others are zoology books I bought about 20 years ago, and one is an old copy of Anna Karenina. I'm a little surprised my copy of The First Lady Chatterly isn't unique. It's from the 1950's, was printed in Paris, and says something like "Not for distribution in the UK or America" on the cover. That naughty D.H. Lawrence!

27misericordia
Set 8, 2008, 3:32pm

26>
Those combiners are going to get you! There are about a 149 titles returned for a search of Anna Karenina.

But I bet your book on Zoology will stay unique for sort time to come.

28reading_fox
Set 9, 2008, 10:23am

39 I think. But I combined already so Fleela won't have so much fun with mine.

Boosted by a few maps, textbooks, odd cookery books and a few odd / rare omnibus editions of popular works. The number is slowly decreasing as more people join LT, the caving books use to be singletons, but aren't anymore.

29misericordia
Set 9, 2008, 1:38pm

You should check rule/guideline C.i) MULTB number is 1 for one book plus .75 for a review, .50 for a recommendation, .25 for Common Knowledge entry, .05 for uploading book cover.

It looks like you have a good number of reviews of unique books. It is one of the points of the group to recommend unique books...

It seems to have become a place where the combiner lurk...But I keep a happy thought.

30lorax
Editado: Set 9, 2008, 6:00pm

26>

You're probably the only person with that edition of Anna Karenina, but the combination protocols on LT are for all editions to be combined, so it should go with its 10,000 other friends (I see that it has been combined already now). Old editions of common books don't get you "uniqueness" as it's defined here (which I understand, but it can be a shame sometimes).

31timjones
Editado: Set 12, 2008, 4:15am

What a great idea for a group! I have 88 unique books (from a library that currently stands at 400 - I've entered about half my books so far). Three of these probably don't count, because they were self-published and produced in very small runs. I'm from New Zealand, and about 75% of these are New Zealand books, mainly New Zealand poetry collections - but there's a reasonable number of non-NZ books in there as well. I hope that the number of NZ books which I alone own will go down over time - there's some very good recent books in that list!

I have reviewed 8 of these 88, including one review which I put on my blog:

http://timjonesbooks.blogspot.com/2008/04/book-review-mark-pirie-slips-esaw-2008...

32misericordia
Set 12, 2008, 10:49am

31>
Awesome library. "Well bowled, Grantley!", really jumped out at me. I imagine it would be titled "Great pitch, Jones!" if it was published in the US.
Really interesting tags. For example: nonfiction, history, geography, New Zealand history, Maori, Otakou, Otepoti, Araiteuru Marae, Otago, Dunedin, Ngai Tahu, Kai Tahu, Karetai, Taranaki, Parihaka, Te Whiti-o-Rongomai, Tohu Kakahi. I assume these are Maori word and phrases.

Good reviews also. Thanks for become our seventh member! the ULTB thread has the starts of a discuss about that issue.

Which three books are self published? You should advocate them counting!

33timjones
Set 13, 2008, 6:39am

#32: Thanks, misericordia! Well bowled, Grantley! was published in 1929, and my copy (picked up I can't remember where) was given as a school prize in 1933, because it has a plate with this inscription inside the front cover:

"Mr J. Fenton's Prize. Awarded to Alister Hay, 1st in Form 1, Kaitangata 1933 (Grant & Clark Booksellers, Balclutha)".

Kaitangata and Balclutha are small towns in the southern South Island of New Zealand.

I might have got a bit carried away with some of the tags ... the ones you list are from Maori Dunedin, and they are Maori placenames, and names of tribes, marae (meeting houses), and Maori leaders. Dunedin is the main city of the southern South Island, and the name is of Gaelic origin (as is Balclutha. Most placenames in the southern provinces of Otago and Southland are of Maori and Scottish origin.)

The three self-published books I referred to are What on Earth, Electroplasm and Keeping Track. The first two are little collections published by the writing group I used to belong to in Dunedin, with work from our members - both edited by me. The print-run was somewhere between 50 and 100 for each; I don't remember exactly. "Keeping Track" is another booklet arising from a writing course.

I'm not too bothered about advocating for them - but this group was a natural fit for a cricket fan like me, as (probably just like baseball fans) we tend to be obsessed with statistics!

34Goldengrove
Set 13, 2008, 12:09pm

Thanks, Misericordia, for your helpful and nice comments.
A 'sticky wicket' means a difficult situation, or to stretch a point as I did, something a bit far fetched. Its origin is to do with the difficulty to a batsman of having a wet and muddy (sticky) strip (the bit of the pitch where the batsman stands). I dare say it would be fairly easy to translate into baseball (I say this on the basis of having watched a grand total of 1 baseball game! Atlanta Braves, since you ask)
Tales of the sea is not, sadly, leather bound, but it does have very nice embossed and coloured boards, and it is very exciting! It belongs with my little collection of what I tag 'boy's own' stories, all of which are old friends. I've been collecting them for a long time. Thanks for appreciating my rescue of 'Romany'. That's what I love about LT - one is sure of finding someone who will understand those little eccentricities!
By the way, I hope the obviously knowledgeable timjones agrees with my explanation of 'sticky wicket'!

35timjones
Set 14, 2008, 1:24am

#34: That sounds about right to me, Goldengrove.

36Goldengrove
Set 14, 2008, 12:37pm

#35 re.#34 - Phew!

37prosfilaes
Set 19, 2008, 10:15pm

By my count, I've got 84 (83 after combining one in writing this up) unique books, but 13 of them are ebooks (more than half of them have been physically published, and all but one or two cost me money...) leaving me with 71 (70). There's a lot of junk and fluff in there, but some interesting stuff:

Etimoligia Vortaro De Esperanto: Volumo 1: A-D and successors, Bukedo al Vi and Aventuroj de Antonio are probably there because they're in Esperanto, though the last was originally published in Czech.

कखग is probably there because it's Hindi, and because it's a children's alphabet, not high literature.

Harry Harrison: An Annotated Bibliography, Nathanael West : a comprehensive bibliography and Hobbled Pegasus; a descriptive bibliography of minor English poetry, 1641-1660 are academic bibliographies, though there's quite a few novels in my library that are less enjoyable light browsing.

Burns in English: Select poems of Robert Burns is just a fun concept. Drawing Without Fear picked up from a college textbooks the store won't buy back box, and is ... interesting. I would have thought more people would have One day with Manu, too.

My reviews include Classical considerations : useful wisdom from Greece and Rome (I don't know why this one's a singleton), Phytopathological Classics number 7 (okay, so that's not really a review), GURPS Requiem (this is a questionable one; it's a printout of a pre-publication book that never made it to publication) and Translator Dictionary: English-Arabic, Arabic-English (an Iraqi publication--next time have an English speaker check it first, okay?)

38misericordia
Set 22, 2008, 11:51am

Whoa! Talk about an eclectic collection! Book in Esperanto, an HP Lovecraft songbook and Care Bear!

I don't think ebooks shouldn't count. If a book cost money and you have it in any form, it is still a book.

Personal I think you deserve some kind of metal for writing a review of a care bear book using the word "didactic". Is there a "Webster's legion of honor with dog ear" for service of vocabulary in the cause of universal understanding. I am not sure, but there should be.

39vintage_books
Editado: Out 10, 2008, 7:05pm

Ok, I'm not sure I'm doing this right, so please help me to discover the error of my ways:

This is what my stats say:

2,062 Number of books
2,022 Number of distinct works

Is that correct term for unique works? Seems high.

But it's really a false impression, because I also enter magazines. If I search magazines, I can remove 352 which are tagged today, which brings down my total to 1670 unique works. Am I doing this right?

Someone come to my rescue and help me!

vintage_books

PS: And as an aside, how do you count leather-bound hardbound magazine compilations if you don't count magazines? (*thud* as she hits the floor from thinking this through)

40misericordia
Out 10, 2008, 7:04pm

WOW! I count about 781 unique books. Sort your library by "Shared". Click the "Shared" link twice, first for the order of most common the second to reverse that. So that page through till you find the first book you share with someone else. I show about 100 book per page. It will say books 701 to 800. So do a little math and you'll get your number. WOW magazine! OLD FRENCH FASHION MAGAZINE. Cool! Count them if you want. How did you get them in?

Don't worry no one in this group is going to kick you out for a making a mistake.

41vintage_books
Editado: Out 10, 2008, 7:21pm

You are a very cool person misericordia, ya know? Is 781 unique books a lot? I have a lot more to list too!

Thanks so much - I read those instructions but didn't quite understand the fuss and how the instructions should apply to me. :)

For the Old French Fashion Magazines (bound and unbound) I bought most of them in two purchases: I purchased a small lot of single issues from a seller on ebay and than asked her if she had more. She had found them in the attic of a barn in France and went back and got the rest for me which she sold me as a bulk purchase, off ebay.

For the others, I purchased most of the old single issues and also most of the leather bound editions from a single seller. I just happened to write the seller at the right time. She had listed one of the editions for sale, with no price. I wrote her to ask the price, we started emailing each other, and she said she was moving countries and didn't want to lug all these heavy books with her just to sell them elsewhere, and would I be interested in a fantastic deal for the remainder of her books? Fate was beaming down on me; she got money for her trip, I got a library at less than 1/10 the normal retail cost.

Two very happy people; 1 great result.

42misericordia
Out 10, 2008, 7:34pm

Yeah distinct title aren't the same as unique. For the purpose of this group, and only for this group Unique mean a book no one else on Library Thing has.

Also rare is not unique to this group. But unique can be rare.

I take it you haven't been on LT (Library Thing) to long. Not a problem. If you want to get a count of books that you have that no one else on LT has you sort your library listing by the "Shared" column. It should be the right most column. Then you'll see how many users you share a book with.

43vintage_books
Out 10, 2008, 7:38pm

I think I'm just so busy cataloging and uploading covers I haven't figured out everything yet. I won't even touch combining until I'm done; by than maybe someone else would have combined for me (insert evil grin here).

44jjmcgaffey
Out 10, 2008, 7:49pm

39> Those numbers mean that you have 40 books (2062-2022) which are duplicates - you have another copy/edition/version of that book. Right under that list of numbers is a little link 'see work multiples' - click that and it will show you which books are duplicated. I have 82 duplicates, three of which are triples (three copies of a book); a couple of those, including one of the triples, are mis-combined works (I have (have read) three Prince Valiant books, each of which claims to be Vol 1 - but while they overlap they don't have the same contents. But I don't know enough to separate them.). Others are because I bought a duplicate, or bought a hardback and replaced it with a paperback (I don't remove a book from my library when I get rid of it, just mark it Discarded).

Yeah, 781 is a lot! Some of yours probably could be combined (Comedy of As You Like It is probably pretty much the same as As You Like It, for instance. But even so, you've got a lot of books no-one else on LT has...

45vintage_books
Out 10, 2008, 7:56pm

Thank you for the clear explanation jjmcgaffey. And a BIG thank you for not assuming I don't know that I have duplicates in my collection. I will many times purchase different editions, or purchase for a friend for a Christmas gift, or get given more than one copy. When I started hitting three of the same edition, I started Book Mooching to give at least one copy away. It's not a cure, but it's a band-aid.

This year I started participating in online forums and for the first time in approximately 30 years I learned I have a unique library. Quite frankly, I don't think most of it is that unique, I just think that I've been collecting long enough that the books become more scarce, LOL.

I'm glad I started sharing my library online to research questions in some forums. It makes it all the more fun to own. I can't imagine what my statistics are going to look like when I'm done....