"why I removed a flag" thread #2
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1KingRat
Got tired of scrolling in the last one.
Removed a flag from Thomas Hobbes. NPG can claim copyright all it wants but it doesn't hold water in the U.S.
Removed a flag from Thomas Hobbes. NPG can claim copyright all it wants but it doesn't hold water in the U.S.
2KingRat
Removed one from Vincent van Gogh self portrait created in 1887. Pre-1888 works are public domain in the U.S.
3KingRat
Removed one from Edna St. Vincent Millay, Photographer is credited and the image is public domain.
4KingRat
Removed a flag from Andrew Dornenburg uploaded by user DornenburgPage because the uploader appears to be Andrew Dornenburg (including the same contact information as listed on the Andrew Dornenburg web site).
5lilithcat
Removed a flag from Jorge Carrera Andrade. See here.
6KingRat
>5 lilithcat: I don't see anything in the linked PDF that releases the picture, nor connects wikipedia user Neruda50 to it either. Am I missing something?
7christiguc
I removed a flag from the picture of Niccolo Paganini. It is a picture of his tomb, but since there is a bust of Paganini featured in the tomb, it is an author image.
8prosfilaes
The Wikimedia page linked to Dae-jung Kim in turn links to http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/DVIC_View/Still_Details.cfm?SDAN=DASC9805836&JPG... which works just fine for me.
9KingRat
Removing a flag from Tom Egeland. The web page linked to gives permission to reproduce the photos.
Translated permission (using google translate):
Photos
Forfatterportrettene og bildene til høyre på denne siden kan fritt gjengis i medier, på hjemmesider, blogger osv. Klikk på bildene for en større versjon.
Author portraits and pictures to the right on this page may be freely reproduced in the media, on websites, blogs, etc. Click on the images for a larger version.
Translated permission (using google translate):
Photos
Forfatterportrettene og bildene til høyre på denne siden kan fritt gjengis i medier, på hjemmesider, blogger osv. Klikk på bildene for en større versjon.
Author portraits and pictures to the right on this page may be freely reproduced in the media, on websites, blogs, etc. Click on the images for a larger version.
10KingRat
Removed a flag from Tom Robbins photo uploaded by jglassow from wikipedia. Link on license page of wikipedia is bad, but it was easy enough to find it. Looks pretty legit to that it was taken by user 48states and released to the public domain.
11ryn_books
>10 KingRat: - oops that was me.
For some reason, I didn't twig that that the public domain phrase was linked, hence the misguided flag. Thanks for catching it.
For some reason, I didn't twig that that the public domain phrase was linked, hence the misguided flag. Thanks for catching it.
12KingRat
Removed a flag from Bill Richardson and left a message for the flagger. Here's a cut and paste for the flag history, which should make clear why I removed a flag.
* Psplat flagged for this reason: Does not match the author in my library
* lilithcat removed a flag
* starfishian flagged for this reason: This is not a photo of this author.
* christiguc removed a flag
* chrisell flagged for this reason: wrong bill richardson
* Psplat flagged for this reason: Does not match the author in my library
* lilithcat removed a flag
* starfishian flagged for this reason: This is not a photo of this author.
* christiguc removed a flag
* chrisell flagged for this reason: wrong bill richardson
13KingRat
Removed a flag from Diana Hollingsworth Gessler uploaded by lmcguirk. Uploader represents the author's publisher.
14lilithcat
> 13
Are you sure? Her profile says that she works for a publisher. Is there some evidence that she works for them in a position that gives her the authority to give permission for the use of their images? (Although I also don't see anything identifying the image as being the property of that publisher, anyway.)
Are you sure? Her profile says that she works for a publisher. Is there some evidence that she works for them in a position that gives her the authority to give permission for the use of their images? (Although I also don't see anything identifying the image as being the property of that publisher, anyway.)
15KingRat
Forgot to put this one here.
I removed a flag on one of the Austrian university photos because Abby did. She generally removes flags when the uploaders complain that they have permission to post a picture but don't understand why it disappears (cause they don't look at the quarantine page).
Basically, I ain't gonna second-guess Abby or Tim or other employees. They may be wrong, but it's their company and employment they risk, not mine.
I removed a flag on one of the Austrian university photos because Abby did. She generally removes flags when the uploaders complain that they have permission to post a picture but don't understand why it disappears (cause they don't look at the quarantine page).
Basically, I ain't gonna second-guess Abby or Tim or other employees. They may be wrong, but it's their company and employment they risk, not mine.
16KingRat
Removed a flag from Robert Aitken uploaded by christiguc. There are multiple Robert Aitkens represented, and the image is of one of them.
17lilithcat
> 16
Which one is it? It's not the Zen guy, it's not his grandfather, and it's not the Bible publisher. I couldn't find an author whose dates mesh with that guy's.
Which one is it? It's not the Zen guy, it's not his grandfather, and it's not the Bible publisher. I couldn't find an author whose dates mesh with that guy's.
18christiguc
>17 lilithcat: You're right. He's none of those authors, so I'm deleting him. It is an illustration of Robert Aitken from The Republican Court; Mr. Aitken was a member of society in the time of Washington. However, he was not an author. :)
19KingRat
>17 lilithcat: According to the NYPL photo info, it's "Aitken, Robert, 1735-1802" which is the bible publisher I believe.
20christiguc
Oh! I deleted it. I'll find it again! :)
21christiguc
(Because, yes, he was a publisher.)
22KingRat
Well, totally up to you whether to put it back or not. Only book I saw associated with him was one in the Thomas Jefferson legacy library. So it's not like any user is going to miss having their author photo for him.
23KingRat
Removed a flag from Frederick II. the Great King of Prussia. Was flagged as not Frederick the II. Documentation at http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/cph.3a29385 says it is. And it sure looks consistent with the image at Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_the_Great
24KingRat
Removed a flag from Alicia Kirschenheiter uploaded by phineus1. phineus1 is LT Author Alicia Kirschenheiter.
25RobertMosher
King Rat -
Well, I was pretty sure that this was not Frederick the Great, the II. However, while disproving that and establishing that it is Frederick as Crown Prince, the artist's name is actually spelled "Pesne" and not "Penne". The webpage at http://www.abcgallery.com/P/pesne/pesnebio.html provides the painter's biography and confirms that it is the right Frederick. And you can see the same image at http://www.abcgallery.com/P/pesne/pesne.html if you scan down the column of images at the left of the screen.
Robert A. Mosher
Well, I was pretty sure that this was not Frederick the Great, the II. However, while disproving that and establishing that it is Frederick as Crown Prince, the artist's name is actually spelled "Pesne" and not "Penne". The webpage at http://www.abcgallery.com/P/pesne/pesnebio.html provides the painter's biography and confirms that it is the right Frederick. And you can see the same image at http://www.abcgallery.com/P/pesne/pesne.html if you scan down the column of images at the left of the screen.
Robert A. Mosher
26christiguc
>25 RobertMosher: Thanks. I left a message with the uploader (leebot), requesting a change in the credit.
27christiguc
Would whoever removed a flag from the Park Ridge Public Library images explain why? It is a noncommercial cc license and LT is commercial.
28lilithcat
> 27
Sorry, that was an error on my part. I'd removed a flag from another image posted by the same uploader that was the uploader's own photo, and accidentally removed flags from others he uploaded that weren't.
One of those "the fingers are quicker than the brain" things.
Sorry, that was an error on my part. I'd removed a flag from another image posted by the same uploader that was the uploader's own photo, and accidentally removed flags from others he uploaded that weren't.
One of those "the fingers are quicker than the brain" things.
29KingRat
Removed a flag from venue Thompson Public Library uploaded by ambbooks. The venue has been claimed by ambbooks.
30lilithcat
I removed a flag from Sharon Loiuse Crayton. It appears that the uploader is also the photographer, so the non-commercial license only restricts use by others.
31christiguc
Now, I know if the uploader is the photographer or copyright holder, there is implied permission for LT to use the photograph. However, I've been taking it that if that upload is coupled with a statement that shows an obvious misunderstanding of the nature of LT (i.e., noncommercial vs. commercial), the uploader doesn't understand enough to give informed permission. But I see your point as well.
(Just wanted to let you know why I've been flagging them)
(Just wanted to let you know why I've been flagging them)
32KingRat
Removed a flag from Larry Hayes uploaded by vvolkman. I believe vvolkman runs Loving Healing Press, the publisher of Larry Hayes book. I'm assuming he has can release the publicity photo to the public domain, or has pretty good knowledge of it being released. (Though it sure would be nice if he stated that he had the authority to do so in his upload.)
33lilithcat
> 32
(Though it sure would be nice if he stated that he had the authority to do so in his upload.)
No kidding. There's another couple of recent venue photos from an uploader with a screen name very similar to that of the Flickr user whose photos they are. But I don't want to remove a flag based on an assumption that may be false.
(Though it sure would be nice if he stated that he had the authority to do so in his upload.)
No kidding. There's another couple of recent venue photos from an uploader with a screen name very similar to that of the Flickr user whose photos they are. But I don't want to remove a flag based on an assumption that may be false.
34KingRat
>33 lilithcat: I saw that. There was a possible author that had a similar thing too. I would have just left her a message but she disabled profile comments.
35KingRat
Removed a flag from Stadtbucherei Frankfurt uploaded by dribdrib... whatever. He's now got a claim on the venue, so I assume he can upload the photos from their own web site.
36KingRat
Removed a flag from Bernhard Riemann. Image was clearly made in 1863, which puts it out of copyright despite any possible claim by the Smithsonian.
37lilithcat
Removed flag from Sabit İnce. There were no books on the author page at the time of the initial flagging, but there are now.
38KingRat
Removed a flag from John Courtenay. Linked page is a scan from a book published in 1795, with the entire book appearing at archive.org.
39KingRat
Removed a flag from William Gaddis uploaded by christiguc. Flag was because the flagger saw it was labeled William Gass and thought it was a photo of William Gass. I assume the photorapher was William Gass. Image certainly looks like other photos of William Gaddis I can find, and definitely is NOT a photo of William Gass.
40KingRat
Removed a flag from Bernard Berenson uploaded by shortride. Rights status not evaluated, but the LOC does state the image was madein 1887. All images created pre-1888 whether published or not are in the public domain in the US.
41christiguc
>39 KingRat: Thanks. Yes, the photo of William Gaddis has a credit to William Gass.
42KingRat
Removed a flag from Sir Matthew Hale. Uploader stated image was published in a book published in 1682.
44christiguc
I removed a flag from the venue picture for Cagnaan Booksales (still in quarantine) because I believe the uploader is the owner. (Look at contact email address for venue. Although I think the "I love it!" description is then a bit disingenuous).
I also removed a flag from Greensboro Public Library - Blanche S. Benjamin Branch because the uploader has now claimed the venue.
I also removed a flag from Greensboro Public Library - Blanche S. Benjamin Branch because the uploader has now claimed the venue.
45KingRat
Removed a flag from venue Stadtbücherei Frankfurt submitted by dribbdebach77. Account claimed of one of the Stadtbucherei branches, and this is a photo for another branch. Not claimed (yet), but I wouldn't quibble.
46KingRat
removed a flag on venue fnac brugge uploaded by user Mush as the user has now claimed the venue.
49KingRat
Removed a flag from one of the Romance Radio venue images uploaded by AvonBooks. Romance Radio and Authors on Air are owned/run by HarperCollins, which also owns Avon Books.
50christiguc
>49 KingRat: I didn't know HarperCollins owned Authors on Air. But, if so, then yes, I'll remove my flag as well.
51KingRat
>50 christiguc: Well, I don't know if they technically own it or if BlogTalkRadio does, but it's definitely Harper's channel on BlogTalkRadio. Going to the site shows four subchannels, once each for different Harper imprints. And Romance Radio is the subchannel for Avon Romance. (My normal domain name lookup sites all seem to be down at the moment.)
52christiguc
>51 KingRat: Ah. Seems close enough, though. Wouldn't it be much easier, however, if Avon simply said "We own this image and give permission for LT to use it as a venue image for Romance Radio".
53KingRat
>52 christiguc: Hell ya it would.
55KingRat
Removed a flag from a venue photo uploaded by hippietrail, listed as copyright Andrew Dunbar because the account hippietrail lists his name as Andrew Dunbar.
56KingRat
Removed a flag from a picture of Caleb Cushing. The author died in 1879 so any photograph of him would have to have been created pre-1888 and is therefore PD. (Drawings would be a different story since they could be created after death...)
57KingRat
Removed a flag from Peter Browne uploaded by BetcherForrest. The source web site indicates the painter is Hugh Howard, who died in 1738. The painting is public domain.
58KingRat
Removed a flag from Earl of George Digby Bristol uploaded by JamesBoswell. Wikipedia credits "Sir Anthony Van Dyck, c.1638–9", putting the image in the public domain.
59lilithcat
Removed a flag from M. Nagy Andras, uploaded by andrasnm, as the uploader is the author.
Removed a flag from the Northbrook Public Library, uploaded by BookBabe1019, as the uploader is an employee of the library.
Removed a flag from the Northbrook Public Library, uploaded by BookBabe1019, as the uploader is an employee of the library.
60lilithcat
Removed a flag from Murtaz Dugrichilov, because it's a photo of the author, uploaded by the author.
Removed a flag from Glynn Anderson for the same reason.
Removed a flag from Glynn Anderson for the same reason.
61KingRat
Removed a flag from Asia Booth Clarke uploaded by KingRat. All images created before 1888 are in the public domain in the U.S. If the subject died in 1888, a photo taken of them is before 1888, and thus public domain. (Unless the photo was taken of the body...)
62lilithcat
Removed a flag from Jean Marzollo. Yes, it's a book cover, but it's a book cover with an image of the author, uploaded by the author.
63christiguc
>62 lilithcat: I know, but since it was uploaded by the author, don't you think she could find a photo of herself or crop that image so that it is a picture of her? The only reason to use that one is if she wants to get around the requirement that the picture be an author image so that she can advertise her book. (But maybe I'm just being cynical).
64KingRat
Removed a flag from Midlothian Public Library uploaded by MidloPL (or something like that). Uploader has claimed the venue, so I will assume they have permission to post stuff from the library.
65KingRat
Removed a flag from Jennie Breeden uploaded by eclecticlibrarian. The uploader uploaded a bunch of CC Noncommercial photos, but that one was actually her own photo (eclecticlibrarian is Anna Creech). I added a flag to the rest.
66KingRat
Removed a flag from John Nash uploaded by illustrationfan. Uploader has edited the Credit field to provide proper attribution.
67lilithcat
Removed a flag from Richard Cecil uploaded by christiguc. The flagger thought it was the "wrong" Richard Cecil, but there are multiple Richard Cecils and it is definitely an image of one of them.
68lilithcat
I removed flags from images of Jeff Smith. The images may not be of "Jeff Smith the Cook", but they are of one of the Jeff Smiths on the page.
69KingRat
Removed a flag from Cornelius Vanderbilt. The upload credits the German Federal Archive according to the terms of CC-BY-SA.
70christiguc
>69 KingRat: But not in the credit line
71christiguc
I removed a flag from Ana Isabel Ordonez because the uploader is the author.
73KingRat
Removed a flag from Dionys Kuen uploaded by AndreasP. The image is from a book published in the 1840s, the wikipedia page linked to provides the information as well as a scan of the title page from the book.
74KingRat
Removed a flag from John Lehman author of On Seas of Glory. Photo was flagged because it was of the former Secretary of the Navy and not the author of the book. However, according to the Amazon page for On Seas of Glory, the John Lehman who authored the book is indeed the former Secretary of the Navy.
75lilithcat
> 74
No, the problem was that John F. Lehman, Jr. is not the same as the John Lehman who authored America's Greatest Unknown Poet: Lorine Niedecker Reminiscences. At the time I added the second flag to the so-called "John Lehman" photo, the two author pages were properly separated. Unfortunately, someone combined them and the author page for John Lehman has disappeared ("no longer in the system").
Okay, I think I managed to retrieve him. I flagged the picture off the John Lehman page, but it's still on the John F. Lehman page. Please don't unflag this one.
No, the problem was that John F. Lehman, Jr. is not the same as the John Lehman who authored America's Greatest Unknown Poet: Lorine Niedecker Reminiscences. At the time I added the second flag to the so-called "John Lehman" photo, the two author pages were properly separated. Unfortunately, someone combined them and the author page for John Lehman has disappeared ("no longer in the system").
Okay, I think I managed to retrieve him. I flagged the picture off the John Lehman page, but it's still on the John F. Lehman page. Please don't unflag this one.
76KingRat
>75 lilithcat: I re-separated the authors now. I'll give them a never in a moment.
77KingRat
Removed a flag from Constance M. Pott. Image was scanned from a pre-1923 book, listed in the credits field.
78KingRat
Removed a flag from Harold Evans uploaded by Harold Evans so I believe him when he says the picture is released for publicity.
79KingRat
Removed a flag from Calvin Beale uploaded by jwalser. A search for "Calvin Beale USDA" on Google shows that he is a long time employee of the USDA and the photo is a USDA photo.
http://www.ers.usda.gov/Amberwaves/Feb03/Profiles/Beale.htm
Cool part is there is a huge treasure trove of photos he took of county courthouses across the US. Supposedly he visited nearly every county in the US as part of his job and took a photo of the courthouse in each one.
http://www.ers.usda.gov/Amberwaves/Feb03/Profiles/Beale.htm
Cool part is there is a huge treasure trove of photos he took of county courthouses across the US. Supposedly he visited nearly every county in the US as part of his job and took a photo of the courthouse in each one.
80lilithcat
> 79
Too bad he didn't take pictures of bookstores and libraries. That would be boon to LT Local!
;-))
Too bad he didn't take pictures of bookstores and libraries. That would be boon to LT Local!
;-))
82lilithcat
I removed flags from the photos of Janet Leister, because the uploader, BlueInfinity, is Janet Leister.
83KingRat
Removed a flag from Joseph Ditta uploaded by EffinghamParkLibrary because the uploader is LT Author Joseph Ditta. (He has some odd reason for calling his account that...)
84BOB81
From two photos uploaded by LTer sybilanne, because member seems to be Chief Librarian at Camosun College Library.
http://www.librarything.com/profile/sybilanne
http://www.librarything.com/profile/sybilanne
85KingRat
Removed a flag from Al-Biruni. Wikipedia does not give a publication date but it does give information on how to find the book in the National Library of Iran, where I found it. Unfortunately the web forms there don't let me link to the search results.
In addition, works first published in Iran by Iranian nationals do not have copyright protection outside of Iran as Iran has not acceded to international copyright conventions.
In addition, works first published in Iran by Iranian nationals do not have copyright protection outside of Iran as Iran has not acceded to international copyright conventions.
86prosfilaes
Emmanuel Todd picture available from
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Emmanuel_Todd.png
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Emmanuel_Todd.png
87KingRat
Removed a flag from Mary Robinson uploaded by janeajones. A 1781 image is in the public domain, regardless of the wishes of some a museum/collection.
88lilithcat
> 87
It's still a TOS violation, which, according to at least one jury in a federal case in California, constitutes "hacking", and is a violation of federal law.
It's still a TOS violation, which, according to at least one jury in a federal case in California, constitutes "hacking", and is a violation of federal law.
89KingRat
Report the person to the site and they can cut off their site access. It's a legal copy in the U.S.
90lilithcat
> 89
You miss the import of my previous message, which is that if some U.S. Attorney wants to follow the lead of the guy in California, criminal charges could be filed.
Frankly, I hope that the jury's verdict gets overturned on appeal, and that the U.S. Attorney whose "brilliant" idea this was gets slapped down.
Until that happens, however, I'd be very wary of claiming that "it's a legal copy" when the use of it violates a site's TOS.
Despite what you've heard, federal prisons aren't that nice.
You miss the import of my previous message, which is that if some U.S. Attorney wants to follow the lead of the guy in California, criminal charges could be filed.
Frankly, I hope that the jury's verdict gets overturned on appeal, and that the U.S. Attorney whose "brilliant" idea this was gets slapped down.
Until that happens, however, I'd be very wary of claiming that "it's a legal copy" when the use of it violates a site's TOS.
Despite what you've heard, federal prisons aren't that nice.
91prosfilaes
>90 lilithcat: It's a legal copy for us; we are in no way obliged to follow the site's TOS. Criminal charges could not be filed against LT or us; only people who have contact with a site could possibly even under the most egregious interpretation of the law be obliged to follow it.
92christiguc
>91 prosfilaes: Are you sure? Publishing an image that was unlawfully obtained?
93prosfilaes
>92 christiguc: They never did anything to the New York Times for publishing the Pentagon Papers, did they?
94christiguc
Yes, but if you look at the reasoning for that, the New York Times was press relying on First Amendment rights. LT is in a complete different camp.
95RobertMosher
#93 #94
And as I recall it, the New York Time did have to go to court to defend its actions in printing the Pentagon Papers, and lawyers worked cheaper in those days.
Robert A. Mosher
And as I recall it, the New York Time did have to go to court to defend its actions in printing the Pentagon Papers, and lawyers worked cheaper in those days.
Robert A. Mosher
96christiguc
Right. And they were able to go ahead with the print because they were the press. 403 U.S. 713 (1971)
97prosfilaes
97> And so is LibraryThing. A webserver and a printer aren't fundamentally different things.
And 403 U.S. 713 (1971) says "we are asked to hold that, despite the First Amendment's emphatic command, the Executive Branch, the Congress, and the Judiciary can make laws enjoining publication of current news and abridging freedom of the press in the name of "national security."" That is, in the name of national security, not because their source copied the documents illegally.
And 403 U.S. 713 (1971) says "we are asked to hold that, despite the First Amendment's emphatic command, the Executive Branch, the Congress, and the Judiciary can make laws enjoining publication of current news and abridging freedom of the press in the name of "national security."" That is, in the name of national security, not because their source copied the documents illegally.
98christiguc
>97 prosfilaes: That is, in the name of national security, not because their source copied the documents illegally.
Well, right. You brought up NYT v. US--I don't think it's really analogous.
A webserver and a printer aren't fundamentally different things.
I completely agree with that. But, LibraryThing isn't "the press".
Edited to say: so I still stand behind my assertion that LT shouldn't publish images that have been unlawfully obtained.
Well, right. You brought up NYT v. US--I don't think it's really analogous.
A webserver and a printer aren't fundamentally different things.
I completely agree with that. But, LibraryThing isn't "the press".
Edited to say: so I still stand behind my assertion that LT shouldn't publish images that have been unlawfully obtained.
100BOB81
>99 KingRat:
It does seem incongruous: posting a photo online that clearly belongs to the public (me), along with terms that tell me it doesn't, is like saying "Here, this belongs to you, and no, you can't (na-na-na-boo-boo!) use it."
It does seem incongruous: posting a photo online that clearly belongs to the public (me), along with terms that tell me it doesn't, is like saying "Here, this belongs to you, and no, you can't (na-na-na-boo-boo!) use it."
101christiguc
>99 KingRat: I agree that one federal case in California isn't controlling, but I think that "one can't illegally obtain a public domain image" is a debatable point (see lilithcat's message in #90) as some people obviously disagree.
102prosfilaes
101> I think it clear that you can use illegal means to obtain public domain images, like hacking or trespass. I don't agree that that transfers any liability to LibraryThing; in all cases where such a issue was litigated, the subject of national security or trade secrets was brought up. Unless these pictures reveal secret information covered by national security laws or trade secret laws, LT should go ahead and publish them.
103lilithcat
> 102
The federal case I mentioned was a "cyber-bullying" case. Nothing to do with national security. The prosecutor's theory, which the jury bought, was that any violation of a site's TOS (in that case, using a false identity) was a federal crime.
The federal case I mentioned was a "cyber-bullying" case. Nothing to do with national security. The prosecutor's theory, which the jury bought, was that any violation of a site's TOS (in that case, using a false identity) was a federal crime.
104christiguc
>102 prosfilaes: Plus, again, LibraryThing is not "press".
105prosfilaes
103> I'm not arguing that the person obtaining the image might face charges. However, the case you mention talks only about the person breaking the law, not copyrighted material coming from that. If people break into a facility to take pictures of duck soup being made, that is unquestionably illegal, but if they give PETA the pictures, PETA can publish them.
106lilithcat
> 105
If PETA knows that the photographs were taken by breaking into the facility, then, depending on the jurisdiction, PETA might be criminally charged as an accessory.
If PETA knows that the photographs were taken by breaking into the facility, then, depending on the jurisdiction, PETA might be criminally charged as an accessory.
108Mercenary_Roadie
Provided Public Domain link for James Drummond picture
109christiguc
>108 Mercenary_Roadie: However, your explanation is so long in the "copyright" field that your link gets cut off and is non-functioning. You can shorten that whole explanation into a statement that just says "public domain" or something like that so that your link will fit. If you do that and post back here, I'll check the link and remove my flag.
110Mercenary_Roadie
109> Fixed link
111KingRat
Removed a flag from Robert Greene. The image isn't a book cover. It's a 1598 drawing of the 16th century Robert Greene (not the 20th century Robert Greene).
112KingRat
Removed a flag on Brian Keene uploaded by yoyogod. The Flickr image by Mari Adkins is licensed as CC Attribution NoDerivs. Account/Author BrianKeene flagged it as "used without permission" but he does not own the rights to the photo.
I used imagestamper.com to record the license for posterity.
I used imagestamper.com to record the license for posterity.
113KingRat
Removed a flag from Jessica Quinn uploaded by BrigidsBlest. BrigidsBlest is LT Author Jennifer Laurence. Jesica Quinn is a pen name used by the author.
114KingRat
Removed a flag from Lou Lesko uploaded by LT Author loulesko. I assume he knows if he has permission to use the photo.
115KingRat
Removed a flag from Michael Zadoorian uploaded by LT Author michaelzadoorian. I assume he knows if he has permission to use the photo here.
116christiguc
I removed a flag from David Stuart, as it was flagged as being not "the" David Stuart. Perhaps the flagger was confused by the "author of ______" bit at the top, but there are multiple David Stuarts on that page.
118KingRat
Removed flags from Eddie Campbell, Paul Gravett and Enrico Casarosa uploaded by spacedlaw. The credit states "Photo by Nathalie Boisard-Beudin" and the account is someone named Nathalie. The copyright field says "Photo uploaded by the author."
I think she means she's he author of the photos, not that she is the author pictured.
I think she means she's he author of the photos, not that she is the author pictured.
119KingRat
Removed flags from Laura George, Doreen Banaszak, Lynn Grabhorn, and Marla Martenson uploaded by HamptonRoadsPub. The account is the publisher for these authors.
120KingRat
Removed a flag from Anna Letitia Barbauld uploaded by janeajones. Image is by Joseph Wedgewood and created in 1775, as stated in the linked Wikipedia entry. A quick google search shows the uploader wasn't lying.
121christiguc
I removed a flag from Quality Parks as the uploader is the founder.
122KingRat
I removed a flag from Quality Parks as it is a logo used by the publisher/author. (Was flagged as "not an author image".)
123KingRat
Removed a flag from John Lubbock as the photo was created pre-1889.
124KingRat
Removed a flag from Askild Antonsen uploaded by Vivaldi as the uploader is Askild Antonsen.
125KingRat
Removed a flag from the Nelsonville Public library uploaded by oleonard, as oleonard has claimed the venue and presumably can give permission for using the library's photos.
127lilithcat
Removed a flag from Goethe Institut Ankara / Ankara Alman Kültür Merkezi has been claimed by the uploader, sanem, and his/her employee status has thus presumably been confirmed to LT's satisfaction.
128KingRat
Removed a flag from Colson Whitehead, flagged as actually of Colin Channer. While the two men look similar in some photographs out there, the photo appears to match other known photos of Colson Whitehead much better than Colin Channer.
129KingRat
Removed a flag from Joseph Lancaster uploaded by HipsterCool. NPG can assert copyright all they want, but it doesn't hold water in the U.S. if the image was created in 1818.
130lilithcat
I removed a flag from Muhammad Ali. It was flagged as "not an image of the Muslim theologian"; however, it is an image of the boxer, whose writings are on the same author page.
131lilithcat
I removed a flag from Eric Carle, as no reason was given for the flagging, the uploader indicated that permission had been given and forwarded to Abby, and it looked kosher to me!
132lilithcat
I removed flags from the images of the VCU Libraries, as the uploader has claimed the venue and therefore has presumably been vetted by LT.
Also, I removed a flag from Gregory Brown, as the uploader is the author, and this is the image on his profile page. I think it's fair to assume he created it.
Also, I removed a flag from Gregory Brown, as the uploader is the author, and this is the image on his profile page. I think it's fair to assume he created it.
133prosfilaes
I removed a flag from the portrait of Dostoevsky; it's irrelevant when he died, as long as the portrait is old enough.
134lilithcat
> 133
Exactly. That's why it was flagged. Because there's no indication when the artist died. It has to be death of the author (that is, the artist) + 70 years. And we don't know (or, at least, the link given doesn't tell us).
Exactly. That's why it was flagged. Because there's no indication when the artist died. It has to be death of the author (that is, the artist) + 70 years. And we don't know (or, at least, the link given doesn't tell us).
135prosfilaes
134> US copyright law doesn't care when the artist died, unless the work was first published after 1978. Old school US law, all grandfathered in now, depended only on the publication date.
136BOB81
Vasily Perov apparently died in 1882: the painting is already on his author page, but the NYPL image is terribly dark.
137christiguc
>136 BOB81: If someone had simply supplied that information from the beginning, there never would have been flags to remove. The problem was that Wikipedia (and the uploader) supplied no such information.
138prosfilaes
137> Perhaps because that information was irrelevant to the copyright status?
139christiguc
I removed a flag from Tom Jones uploaded by jburlinson because it was flagged as being the "wrong Tom Jones". There are multiple Tom Joneses on that page.
140lilithcat
I removed a flag from the picture of Tom Jones uploaded by jburlinson. It may not be an image of the flagger's "Tom Jones", but it is certainly one of the various Tom Jones' on that author page.
141ryn_books
Oops, have been away from picture flagging for a while. Flagged my first one in a while, then realised the person uploading was the author.
So unflagged my flag. (if that makes sense :-)
The wording of copyright being 'Random House' does make me concerned as there's no proof of permission, but I veered on the side of the Author and the person in the photograph should know if they have permission or not.
Or was that wrong?
Author : http://www.librarything.com/author/blockstefan and uploader http://www.librarything.com/profile/stefanmerrillblock
So unflagged my flag. (if that makes sense :-)
The wording of copyright being 'Random House' does make me concerned as there's no proof of permission, but I veered on the side of the Author and the person in the photograph should know if they have permission or not.
Or was that wrong?
Author : http://www.librarything.com/author/blockstefan and uploader http://www.librarything.com/profile/stefanmerrillblock
142BOB81
From LoC picture of Dorothy Canfield Fisher, uploaded by Shortride: info says "New York World photo", which I assume is the same as
'New York World-Telegram", hence PD.
http://www.loc.gov/rr/print/res/076_nyw.html
'New York World-Telegram", hence PD.
http://www.loc.gov/rr/print/res/076_nyw.html
143PortiaLong
>142 BOB81: - Sorry, that was my mistake - thank you for fixing it BOB81. Shortride responsed to my private comment on his profile with the same information and I came to unflag it and you had already done it for me.
144KingRat
Removed a flag from Mandell Creighton. Hard to credit an anonymous 19th century photographer, so a link to the Wikipedia source seems fine to me.
145KingRat
Removed a flag from Hislop. Rev. Alexander. Hislop died in 1865, putting the creation date for a photograph of him pre-1890 and making the photo public domain.
146christiguc
Now, are you sure he was alive in that picture? ;)
147jcbrunner
Removed a flag from Heinrich Bullinger, transferred by me from wikicommons (where sourcing is bad, I hope to get a better attribution soon). HOWEVER: Bullinger died in 1575. A good 200 years before the US was created ...
Please don't get overprotective about clear pre-20th century sources.
Please don't get overprotective about clear pre-20th century sources.
148lilithcat
> 147
What you are missing is that the date Bullinger died is completely irrelevant. The question is: when was the image created? On its face, it appears to be pretty darned old. But that proves nothing. It could have been created last month.
What you are missing is that the date Bullinger died is completely irrelevant. The question is: when was the image created? On its face, it appears to be pretty darned old. But that proves nothing. It could have been created last month.
149jcbrunner
What am I missing? IANAL (and I hold strange notions such as that waterboarding is torture and torturers should be prosecuted according to the full extent of the law).
There are two tests. First, is the underlying work still under copyright? The portrait is from the 16th century. Any copyright on the artwork has clearly expired (if we assume some kind of idea of granting retroactive copyrights).
Second, is the scan/photo of the artwork copyrightable? The answer is no, because the scan/photo lacks originality (see Bridgeman Art Library v. Corel Corp. at Cornell, Wikipedia). Transfering a work from one media to another does not grant a copyright to the transferer (Google has no copyright to the public domain works it scans in.). The date of the scan's/photo's creation is irrelevant.
Therefore, the picture of Heinrich Bullinger is clearly in the public domain and should not be flagged.
There are two tests. First, is the underlying work still under copyright? The portrait is from the 16th century. Any copyright on the artwork has clearly expired (if we assume some kind of idea of granting retroactive copyrights).
Second, is the scan/photo of the artwork copyrightable? The answer is no, because the scan/photo lacks originality (see Bridgeman Art Library v. Corel Corp. at Cornell, Wikipedia). Transfering a work from one media to another does not grant a copyright to the transferer (Google has no copyright to the public domain works it scans in.). The date of the scan's/photo's creation is irrelevant.
Therefore, the picture of Heinrich Bullinger is clearly in the public domain and should not be flagged.
150christiguc
First, is the underlying work still under copyright? The portrait is from the 16th century.
Where do you get that?
Where do you get that?
151Heinrich_Bullinger
This is indeed a portrait of me. It was painted by Hans Asper (1499-1571).
jcbrunner says: Could we please move to solve more substantial questions than starting an art history course?
jcbrunner says: Could we please move to solve more substantial questions than starting an art history course?
152christiguc
>151 Heinrich_Bullinger: Excellent! Then it is public domain. But the artist (and therefore the date of the creation of the painting) wasn't supplied on Wikipedia. We had no way of knowing whether or not it was painted contemporary with the life of Bullinger or painted a week ago. Edit the credit to "Hans Asper (1499-1571)" and then I see no reason why it should be flagged.
153jcbrunner
> 152 I find it highly uncivil that you flagged the picture again, after I have started discussing my unflagging lilithcat's flag and apparently without bothering to reach a consensus. Shoot first, God will sort out her own ...
Would you mind unflagging the picture?
Would you mind unflagging the picture?
154christiguc
I removed a flag from Heinrich Bullinger because the death date of the credited artist puts the painting in the 16th century, and thus public domain.
Edited to say: I flagged it yesterday before there was a discussion, but whatever. It's unflagged now because it provides evidence of public domain status now.
Edited to say: I flagged it yesterday before there was a discussion, but whatever. It's unflagged now because it provides evidence of public domain status now.
155BOB81
koffieyahoo and I removed flags from photo of J. N. Andrews (John Nevins Andrews), because Andrews died in 1883, making it PD.
156KingRat
Removed a flag from Morgan Hawke uploaded by account MorganHawke which is LT Author Morgan Hawke. I'm assuming she knows the copyright status of her photo because she is the author.
157lilithcat
You know what they say about assuming!
She says that the images are copyrighted by someone else. In one instance, she doesn't even know who the person is. Where did she get the images? Authors are just as capable of ignoring copyright and scarfing images off the web as anyone else.
If I take an author's picture and post it on my Flickr account, she can't use it just because she's the author and says I took it. My images there are copyrighted, and she has to ask my permission, as does anyone else who wants to use them.
I don't think we should hold authors to a lesser standard of proof than we do other folks who upload images.
She says that the images are copyrighted by someone else. In one instance, she doesn't even know who the person is. Where did she get the images? Authors are just as capable of ignoring copyright and scarfing images off the web as anyone else.
If I take an author's picture and post it on my Flickr account, she can't use it just because she's the author and says I took it. My images there are copyrighted, and she has to ask my permission, as does anyone else who wants to use them.
I don't think we should hold authors to a lesser standard of proof than we do other folks who upload images.
158BOB81
If I take an author's picture and post it on my Flickr account, she can't use it just because she's the author and says I took it.
But she can badger you over "personality rights", so you probably should let her use it.
But she can badger you over "personality rights", so you probably should let her use it.
159lilithcat
She can badger all she wants, but she wouldn't have a leg to stand on. The "right of publicity" is the right to control the commercial use of one's likeness. My posting of photographs to my Flickr account is not a commercial use. It would be a different story if I were using them to sell soap.
162Collectorator
This member has been suspended from the site.
163christiguc
Hm. . . I got permission from the publisher for a photo of Shel Silverstein.
164lilithcat
> 162
Unfortunately, due to the fact that Tim rarely, if ever, refers to the message he's replying to, I have no idea what he's referring to there.
In any case, unless and until he does remove the language "The rules: Unlike some sites, we take copyright seriously. Please read our copyright guidelines before posting pictures." we need to follow "The rules".
Unfortunately, due to the fact that Tim rarely, if ever, refers to the message he's replying to, I have no idea what he's referring to there.
In any case, unless and until he does remove the language "The rules: Unlike some sites, we take copyright seriously. Please read our copyright guidelines before posting pictures." we need to follow "The rules".
165BOB81
Gee, Tim, thanks for all the wasted hours finding appropriate and flagging inappropriate photos.
166Collectorator
This member has been suspended from the site.
167KingRat
>157 lilithcat: Oh, I totally understand. I generally go with the assumption that an author knows the copyright status of photos of themselves and has permission. That's not true 100% of the time, of course. But they are going to know WAY more often than general users. If it's clear they grabbed a photo of themselves without permission, then I'll flag. Basically the opposite assumption I have for general users, where I assume they haven't gotten permission unless it's clear they have.
168KingRat
> 162-166 I started a new topic just for that copyright rule thing, rather than leave it buried here.
169KingRat
Removed a flag from Dorothy Hoobler uploaded by Literanista. Literanista is a publicist who works for Hachette Book Group, so I will assume she has permission to upload Hachette photos.
170KingRat
Removed flag from venue Contra Costa County Library - Martinez Library because uploader RHRoe has claimed the venue.
171lilithcat
Removed flags from E.C. Crawlie as the uploader is Crawlie's creator: https://www.createspace.com/3378516
173lilithcat
Removed flags from Amanda Cross and Carolyn Heilbrun, and from C.Day Lewis and Nicholas Blake. The flagger was obviously unaware that Cross and Blake are pseudonyms for Heilbrun and Lewis.
174BOB81
From venue image submitted by user trav; credited "blurry pic by trav" and copyright "via headsubhead.com".
http://headsubhead.com/ appears to be trav's website.
http://headsubhead.com/ appears to be trav's website.
175lilithcat
I removed a flag from Richard Price as there are several Richard Prices represented on that author page, something the flagger apparently did not realize.
176KingRat
Removed a flag from venue British Bookshop as uploader Dewthing has now claimed the venue.
178KingRat
Removed my own flag from Goethe-Institut Warschau. I'd added my own "no image" flag as no image appeared. But now it appears to be working. Some sort of LT glitch I suppose.
179KingRat
Removed a flag from John Thelwall. The NPG can't hold a copyright in the US for images that were created pre-1889.
180KingRat
Removed a flag from George Dyson. Flagged as not George Dyson but instead George B. Dyson. While it is George B. Dyson, his books are mostly listed under George Dyson, thus it is appropriate for his picture to appear on that page.
181KingRat
Removed a flag from David Kidd-Hewitt as the uploader is LT Author David Kidd-Hewitt.
183lampbane
Removed a flag from General Andrew J. Goodpaster since the user did provide the photo reference number (NATO Photo Ref. no: 6613) so we can follow up on it.
184BOB81
Removed a flag from John Robert Holbrook photo, since I'm 99.77% sure that the uploader is John Robert Holbrook: and it may stop the Gingerbread Jimmi uploads once and for all. :)
185lilithcat
> 184
You are likely right, but there's absolutely no way to tell. The username is a number, and there are no identifiers whatsoever on the profile page. Are we just to assume that such people are not merely the authors, but the copyright holders?
You are likely right, but there's absolutely no way to tell. The username is a number, and there are no identifiers whatsoever on the profile page. Are we just to assume that such people are not merely the authors, but the copyright holders?
186BOB81
As for the Holbrook photos, I see your point, but it's also pretty clear that 857567 (who has no books catalogued) has been trying their darndest to promote John Robert Holbrook for more than a year now. I just don't think a disinterested party would be that persistent.
Are we just to assume that such people are not merely the authors, but the copyright holders?
If not, perhaps the basic LibraryThing photo permission letters should be changed so as to not only ask permission to post the image, but also to ask the recipient if they are in a position to grant permission to post the image. I don't really know if any of the photos I've posted after receiving e-mail permission would meet that criteria.
Are we just to assume that such people are not merely the authors, but the copyright holders?
If not, perhaps the basic LibraryThing photo permission letters should be changed so as to not only ask permission to post the image, but also to ask the recipient if they are in a position to grant permission to post the image. I don't really know if any of the photos I've posted after receiving e-mail permission would meet that criteria.
187lilithcat
> 186
I've had at least one request turned down on the ground that the person I asked did not hold the rights.
I've had at least one request turned down on the ground that the person I asked did not hold the rights.
188KingRat
I don't intend to ever require 100% certainty that someone has the rights before I decline to flag. What if the person isn't really the author? what if they think they have the rights but they don't? should I ask them to have a registered copyright and a permission release signed in blood so we have their DNA to prove who signed it?
If the author of a book uploads a photo of themselves, I'm going to assume the person has the permission to upload to LT unless there's obvious reason to doubt it. If I ask, and they say they don't have the rights, that's a whole different story. But I don't assume as a matter of course that everyone uploading is lying about permissions until proven otherwise.
If Tim/LT wants rigid 100% certainty, he should hire someone to do the screening.
If the author of a book uploads a photo of themselves, I'm going to assume the person has the permission to upload to LT unless there's obvious reason to doubt it. If I ask, and they say they don't have the rights, that's a whole different story. But I don't assume as a matter of course that everyone uploading is lying about permissions until proven otherwise.
If Tim/LT wants rigid 100% certainty, he should hire someone to do the screening.
189KingRat
I removed flags from some University of Toledo library photos uploaded by wademlee. Since uploading them, he's claimed the venue and been granted that status by LT, so I am assuming he's got permission from the library to use their photos.
http://www.librarything.com/venue/3623/University-of-Toledo-Carlson-Library
http://www.librarything.com/venue/3623/University-of-Toledo-Carlson-Library
190lilithcat
I wish people would claim the venues before uploading the photos. It would save confusion and misunderstandings.
192KingRat
Removed a flag from Thornton W. Burgess uploaded by fugitive. If it was published pre-1923 (and the LoC says it was published 1915), then it's public domain.
193KingRat
Removed flag from A.E. Baer uploaded by highbrowculture as highbrowculture is LT Author A.E. Baer. If he says his picture is public domain, I believe him.
194KingRat
Removed a flag from what I believe to be Northern Tier Library uploaded by valencian and credited to Stu Chandler. valencian is Stu Chandler. If he wants to release it to the public domain, I'll let him.
195KingRat
Removed a flag from Strathcona County Library uploaded by jocelynb because she has claimed the venue.
196KingRat
Removed flags from 3 images uploaded by lilithcat from the London School of Economics Flickr stream. LSE statement says both that the photos are free of copyright restrictions and that they charge for commercial access to hi-res versions of the photos. That does not mean they are non-commercial licenses for the photos posted. LSE could have used a CC-NC license, but they chose to be part of Flickr Commons, by which they agree to the following: http://www.flickr.com/commons/usage/
197KingRat
Removed a flag from Ted W. Lawson uploaded by mccarthd and flagged as "wrong caption" by someone other than the uploader. The caption reads "U.S. Government Photo, 1942" which is a perfectly accurate description of the photo.
198KingRat
Removed flags from two images for the Curious Bookshop uploaded by Audacity. Audacity has claimed the venue.
199lilithcat
> 197
I think the person meant that it's not a photo of Ted W. Lawson. Take a look at the picture uploaded by BOB81. Lawson is identified as the person second from left. The photo mccarthd uploaded is cropped from the other, and actually shows the person at the far left.
http://www.librarything.com/pics.php?a=lawsontedw
I think the person meant that it's not a photo of Ted W. Lawson. Take a look at the picture uploaded by BOB81. Lawson is identified as the person second from left. The photo mccarthd uploaded is cropped from the other, and actually shows the person at the far left.
http://www.librarything.com/pics.php?a=lawsontedw
200KingRat
The caption for the photo at the air force site reads: Crew No. 7 (Plane #40-2261, target Tokyo): 95th Bombardment Squadron, front row: Lt. Ted W. Lawson, pilot; and Lt. Dean Davenport, copilot; back row: Lt. Charles L. McClure, navigator; Lt. Robert S. Clever, bombardier; and Sgt. David J. Thatcher, flight engineer/gunner. (U.S. Air Force photo)
Here's the photo: http://www.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/web/060217-F-1234P-111%5B2%5D.jpg
If BOB81 flags, I'll go with what he says cause he knows his military authors.
Here's the photo: http://www.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/web/060217-F-1234P-111%5B2%5D.jpg
If BOB81 flags, I'll go with what he says cause he knows his military authors.
201KingRat
Oh wait, I see it now. Looked to me like one row but there is actually two rows, just barely. Flagging on my end.
202lilithcat
If BOB81 flags, I'll go with what he says cause he knows his military authors.
He does, indeed!
He does, indeed!
204KingRat
Removed a flag from national university of singapore libraries photo uploaded by Aarontay. Aarontay has claimed the venue.
205BOB81
He does, indeed!
Hmm . . . ?
Not so long before rennefish flagged those two photos, I actually picked up a copy of Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo at a local thrift store and said to myself, "Gee, that sure doesn't look like the guy on his LT author page." I didn't give it another thought until the photos were flagged, at which time I changed my caption. If I remember right, the photo mentioned in Message 197 was also on Lawson's Wikipedia page for awhile. The Air Force caption is very confusing.
Hmm . . . ?
Not so long before rennefish flagged those two photos, I actually picked up a copy of Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo at a local thrift store and said to myself, "Gee, that sure doesn't look like the guy on his LT author page." I didn't give it another thought until the photos were flagged, at which time I changed my caption. If I remember right, the photo mentioned in Message 197 was also on Lawson's Wikipedia page for awhile. The Air Force caption is very confusing.
206KingRat
Removed a flag from Sufian Abas uploaded by bibliobibuli and credited to Sharon Bakar. The uploader is Sharon Bakar.
207KingRat
Removed a flag from Tim Jeal uploaded by rorrison, sourced to wikipedia.
Wikipedia's source is: http://www.dulwichfestival.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&...
That's now a dead link, but the following archive of the page can be found on the Wayback machine at the Internet Archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20061001023542/http://www.dulwichfestival.co.uk/index...
"Click on the photos to see full-sized versions. These can be saved for use in other publications "
Wikipedia's source is: http://www.dulwichfestival.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&...
That's now a dead link, but the following archive of the page can be found on the Wayback machine at the Internet Archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20061001023542/http://www.dulwichfestival.co.uk/index...
"Click on the photos to see full-sized versions. These can be saved for use in other publications "
208r.orrison
Thanks! I've added a link from Tim Jeal's photo to your message. (There was no way I could get both of the relevant URLs in there)
210KingRat
Removed a flag from Leslie Lamport. The response from Lamport to the query to release the photo under the GFDL was "You're welcome to do whatever you wish with the photo on my web site, or with any more recent photo that I may later replace it with." Which sure seems to me like he's agreed to a GFDL release.
211KingRat
Removed a flag from Johan Anglemark uploaded by anglemark, who is Johan Anglemark.
212lilithcat
Removed a flag from the image of Daína Chaviano. It was flagged as "not an author image", but it is.
213rybie2
I'm sorry - I was one of those who flagged the image of Daína Chaviano because I thought a screen shot of web page, even that of an author's home page, does not constitute an "author image", nor did it meet LT copyright guidelines. Would one of you mind directing me to an explanation? I'm glad, of course, to remove any flag I've made in error.
214KingRat
>212 lilithcat: You're right. It looked like a marquee of a movie, but googling shows that it's her.
215r.orrison
Removed flag from photo of Robin Kjell, since it was uploaded by member kjellrobin. It could just be a coincidence, or a fan, I suppose.
216lilithcat
> 215
I assumed that is was a fan, because I checked before I flagged it, and the member lists his (her?) real name, which isn't Robin Kjell.
I assumed that is was a fan, because I checked before I flagged it, and the member lists his (her?) real name, which isn't Robin Kjell.
217BOB81
>216 lilithcat:
Agree.
Agree.
218r.orrison
Removed flag from Consortium Library; image was uploaded by artificialinanity who has claimed the venue
220KingRat
Removed a flag from the venue Les Tis Ratures uploaded by Grimm. The Flickr page license is NC, but the uploader requested permission in the comments there to post to librarything, and the photographer okayed it: http://www.flickr.com/photos/monolecte/2354345418/
222KingRat
Removed a flag from StadtBibliothek Köln submitted by PerpetualBeta. PerpetualBeta has claimed the venue.
223christiguc
I removed a flag from KingRat's photo of Elizabeth Taylor because someone had flagged it as "being the actress, not the author". Well, both Elizabeth Taylors wrote books.
224KingRat
Removed a flag from Bente Gallagher uploaded by publishingworksInc (or something like that). Publishing Works is the publisher of Bente Gallagher's new book, A Cutthroat Business.
I suspect that they are also the publisher for some of the other authors whose pictures they've uploaded as well.
I suspect that they are also the publisher for some of the other authors whose pictures they've uploaded as well.
225BOB81
From duplicate photo of Eleanor Butler Roosevelt, because I'm afraid that the Mrs. Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. author page won't remain dominant.
226christiguc
I removed a flag from Mississippi University for Women (although there is still one flag left) as the uploader has claimed the venue.
227lampbane
Removed a flag from my own photo of the International Center for Photography, which was flagged by the person who claimed the venue for not being a picture of the venue and because they were uploading their own. It ended up being a picture of the same thing, though theirs was admittedly better.
You can't even see my picture anymore since the venue is claimed, so it's really just splitting hairs.
You can't even see my picture anymore since the venue is claimed, so it's really just splitting hairs.