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Ago 7, 2009, 9:37 am

Oh no. This is a great idea for a group. I hope it's not totally dormant.

I was hoping someone would be able to direct me towards some good books to use as an introduction to GLBT history.

Ago 9, 2009, 2:25 pm

I haven't read any of the general histories on GLBT that I own; however, I would suggest you look at Hidden from History, edited by Martin Duberman, Martha Vicinus, and George Chauncey.

You may also want to look at John Boswell's Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality. Boswell was a history prof at Yale, and his book received critical acclaim. (He was one of the victims of AIDS).

Ago 20, 2009, 5:39 pm

There is one more that you might want to examine: Homosexuality and Civilization by Louis Crompton.

Ago 30, 2009, 4:31 pm

Other books you may want to check are Gay Life & Culture: A World History form Robert Aldrich (big book with many photos; nice because it is not centered in Europe and the US) and Homosexuality. A History form Colin Spencer (gravitates towards British history towards the end, but is very entertaining to read as he is a novelist).

Set 12, 2009, 9:09 am

Take look in my library. I've tagged a few things "history of homosexuality". There are some good things there.

Out 2, 2009, 2:58 pm

Depends what part of history..." The Gay 100" is nice... showing people thoroughout history, who, if they were living today might fit into GLBT category

A really easy to read book is "Becoming visible" by Kevin Jennings . It's suitable for high school & college students... or as an easy to read introduction.
For American GLBT history from Stonewall on... I like "Out for Good" by Dudley Clendinen & Adam Nagourney.
There's "Gay American History:Lesbians & Gay Men on the USA" by Jonathan Katz.
I was touched by couple of memoirs I'd read: "Familiar Faces, Hidden Lives" by Howard Brown, MD and "Cures: A Gay Man's Odyssey" by Martin Duberman.
Each of these books eloquently show how difficult life could be in the not too distant past.

The DVD, "Before Stonewall" is also an excellent my opinion.

Many more... Check PFLAG-ColumbiaHoCo collection and my own collection .

Jan 11, 2010, 12:22 am

if yr on the east coast... the Gay Metropolis is a very good read and informative. tone is kinda 'stiff' and not in the good way, but readable mostly, and gives a good decade-by-decade narrative and sources you can confirm with people who may have survived those previous decades of gay awareness. read on, buddy.

Editado: Set 10, 2011, 2:07 am

I haven't gotten that far into it yet, but if you don't mind the geographic focus, Michael Bronski's A Queer History of the United States seems to be a good introduction to its topic.

Set 10, 2011, 6:44 am

If you're interested in non-US books you might enjoy Strangers: Homosexual Love in the 19th century.

Set 13, 2011, 10:40 pm

Not sure how it shows up for others, but when I go to the GLBT History Group main page, I see a list of GLBT libraries on LT . . . have you searched any of these libraries for the tag "GLBT History"? Just a thought . . .

If you don't see them, let me know and I'll post the library names or how to find them.

There are MANY books on GLBT History . . . and as others have said . . . it depends on what you're looking for . . . most of the one's in my collection (not all cataloged yet) focus on Lesbian Herstory . . . but that's just my bias :)

Enjoy your search!

Set 13, 2011, 11:07 pm

Wandered downstairs to the relevant bookshelf . . . the three "classics" that hopped off the shelf are: Making History: The Struggle for Gay and Lesbian Equal Rights by Eric Marcus, Out of the Past: Gay and Lesbian History from 1869 to the Present by Neil Miller, and To Believe in Women: What Lesbians Have Done for America-A History by Lillian Faderman. These are all old enough that they are more about G & L, not so much B & T. For Trans history try Transgender Warriors by Leslie Feinberg.

Hope this helps get you started.

Out 3, 2011, 11:49 am

I posted this earlier today in the "Gay Men's" group. I read a lot of history and biography and I find some of the more targeted things better reads than the survey type books listed above.

I just finished reading Hot Stuff: Disco and the Remaking of American Culture. I was never into the 1970s disco scene and didn't really know too much about it or how huge it really was socially or economically. It's a great look at the music and the effects on and by the gay and African-American communities. An interesting companion book is Hold On to Your Dreams: Arthur Russell and the Downtown Music Scene, 1973-1992. Both of these books offer a very good look at life in the 1970s. Hot Stuff takes a broad national look but both books center in on NYC. Russell was a minimalist, but serious composer of contemporary classical music but wrote a couple of disco hits including "Is It All Over My Face?".

Both books are very well researched and have extensive indexes. (I wish Echols had included a bibliography) In Hot Stuff, Echols quotes several times from -Dancer from the Dance and The Farewell Symphony. I read Dancer many years ago and she's got me reading the Edmund White book now.

Since October is LGBT History month read one or all of these books. You won't be disappointed.

Out 3, 2011, 12:00 pm

You might also want to look for Gay Bar: The Fabulous, True Story of a Daring Woman and Her Boys in the 1950s by Will Fellows. Two other gay bar histories that I've read recently are The evening crowd at Kirmser's and An evening at the Garden of Allah:
a gay cabaret in Seattle
. I can highly recommend all 3 of these for the pictures they paint of their times and places: LA in the '50s, St. Paul and Seattle in the 1940's.

Nov 22, 2012, 11:12 am

This has gone dormouse again, so wakie, as lgbtq* history month in Britain is coming up, February. A lot of people seem to think that gay history started after stonewall, or with stonewall, and a long time ago I started antequeerians to catalogue stories of before stonewall. There is of course the oft repeated matter of whether something existed before the word.

The notes are in a variety of places but as google has come along, searching google becomes a more and more entertaining matter as one discovers knew strings. Shakespeare for example became shakesqueeries, fairly obvious that one. When catalogued books in libraries these will appear in library thing too. Going back into history, Dover's Greek homosexuality is important, not only because he was profoundly wrong, but of who he was, and the time in which he wrote.

Organising the catalogue of this lot, across time, space, concepts, matters and methods remains as entertaining to me now as it was when I started nearly fifty years ago.

One should point specifically to Rictor Norton, who made a lot of this clear in 1974, I didn't know he had done any of it until a few years ago, having worked it all out for myself all over again, a huge waste of time and effort.

Editado: Nov 23, 2012, 6:36 am

I'm about half way through Greeks & Greek Love by James N. Davidson which (so the review says) refutes Dover. (I would read the rest of it but I can't bloody find where I put it!).

Nov 28, 2012, 3:20 pm

Ah, know the matter, books on the floor... today a seminar in London on Queer Theory, or Queer Justice, the title line seemed to change, dealing with Heidegger and Anaximander, in the title, but much more with Davidson, Dover, in the substance. There is a lot of history needed here. I've been looking at Arno Karlen again, since he died recently, and trying to track history and its pathways is something that really is needed.