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Before they are hanged por Joe Abercrombie
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Before they are hanged (original 2007; edição 2009)

por Joe Abercrombie

Séries: The First Law (2)

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"The second novel in the wildly popular First Law Trilogy from New York Times bestseller Joe Abercrombie. Superior Glokta has a problem. How do you defend a city surrounded by enemies and riddled with traitors, when your allies can by no means be trusted, and your predecessor vanished without a trace? It's enough to make a torturer want to run -- if he could even walk without a stick. Northmen have spilled over the border of Angland and are spreading fire and death across the frozen country. Crown Prince Ladisla is poised to drive them back and win undying glory. There is only one problem -- he commands the worst-armed, worst-trained, worst-led army in the world. And Bayaz, the First of the Magi, is leading a party of bold adventurers on a perilous mission through the ruins of the past. The most hated woman in the South, the most feared man in the North, and the most selfish boy in the Union make a strange alliance, but a deadly one. They might even stand a chance of saving mankind from the Eaters -- if they didn't hate each other quite so much. Ancient secrets will be uncovered. Bloody battles will be won and lost. Bitter enemies will be forgiven -- but not before they are hanged. First Law Trilogy The Blade Itself Before They Are Hanged Last Argument of Kings For more from Joe Abercrombie, check out: Novels in the First Law world Best Served Cold The Heroes Red Country"--… (mais)
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Título:Before they are hanged
Autores:Joe Abercrombie
Informação:London : Gollancz, 2009.
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We start the second book of the series with Glokta trying to lead the defense of Dagoska against the invading Gurkish hordes. West is in Angland with Threetrees and the other Named Men, readying the fight against Bethod. Bayaz is leading Jezal, Ferro, and Logen to the End of the World to obtain the one weapon that could defeat his former brother Mage.
It's a pretty typical middle book in a fantasy trilogy, with lots of wandering around and many battles. I did like the backstory drops we got from Bayaz as his group traveled across the continent. They fill in some of the gaps in lore from the first book. There aren't a lot of surprises but there is some character development, especially for Dogman and Jezal.
I wish the author wouldn't insist on character repetition. If I had a nickel for each time Glota sucks his gums or rubs his bad leg or Lord Marshal Burr burps or farts, I could have got this book for free. Some good editing could have cut a lot of that out; the battle scenes could have also used some judicious editing.
My biggest problem is that I don't see any real threat coming. Yes, there's Bethod in the North and the Emperor in the South, but I'm not feeling the dread one gets from the Nazgul or other magical threats that menace the populace. And I honestly don't care if the Common Council, king or his lords, and the Guilds get wiped out. Who's to say that Bethod might not be a better ruler? Or the Emperor?
Anyway, I'll read the next book and hopefully I'll find out. ( )
  N.W.Moors | Jul 5, 2021 |
Ah middle books of a series. Books with neither a beginning nor an end. Nothing but big honking chunks of middle.

Before They Are Hanged follows three separate stories with no overlap. Of the three stories, two of them are excellent and one doesn't work. Two out of three isn't bad but the weak story is, in comparison, clearly weak and it costs the book a half a star. (It's a 3.5 stars book).

In the Union, Inquisitor Sand dan Glotka, our intrepid evil torturing hero, gets an upgrade to Superior Glotka and is sent off to the far-off exotic city of Dagoska on the edge of the Gurkhul Empire to find why Dagoska's last Inquisitor Superior disappeared. He finds a city under siege by endless armies, some sophomore attempts at underhanded politics, a military in disarray, and a city crumbling. The strongest part of the book -- and clearly Joe Abercrombie's favorite character -- Glotka demonstrates why he's a man not to be messed with, even with his broken and crippled body.

Up in Angland, the Union forces face the implacable Northern armies of King Bethod. Colonel West witnesses the Union crumble as their overestimate their own abilities and underestimate Bethod's willingness to reach into every kind of evil imaginable to crush his foes. West finds himself traveling through the Northern winter woods chasing down an army with Logan Ninefinger's old crew, Rudd Threetrees and his Named Men. Excellent battle scenes riddle West's viewpoint section as they chase through the woods to take out Bethod's scouts and the story unfolds to some setpiece battles.

Meanwhile, Logan Ninefingers, Bayaz and friends cross an empty continent on a quest for a rock. Road trips can be interesting but this roadtrip wasn't; the characters went through some battles but mostly they roadtripped across a vast, empty continent full of ruins. Easily the weakest part of this book, it didn't bring anything to the table except explain some of the doings of wizards thousands of years before.

When "Before They Are Hanged" is good, it is very, very, very good. Joe Abercrombie pulls off what most fantasy authors fail to do: he writes almost Tolstoy-esque battle scenes with huge set pieces all moves through the woods. The battle scenes are great. When they're small, they're personal. When they're huge, they're immense. The wars -- from the Gurkhul sieging Dagoska to the huge battles in the woods in the snow between armies -- these parts shine. But when the characters have nothing to do except talk to one another, the books just sort of fall apart.

Clearly good enough to finish the trilogy. It's a pretty decent fantasy book. It's just a middle one. So it is what it is. ( )
  multiplexer | Jun 20, 2021 |
Wow, that got dark very quickly. The second instalment of the First Law trilogy spreads our characters out across the world, many of them facing insurmountable odds, and all of them, at various points, encountering an awful lot of violence. There is a lot of blood. This is not one for the faint-hearted, but Abercrombie’s sense of irony prevents it from getting too crushingly miserable. In her comment on the last post, Heloise noted that he undermines the conventions of the fantasy genre throughout the series, and I noticed more examples of this here: not so much in terms of characterisation, now, but in the plot itself. And yet this does feel very much like a ‘middle book’: while it begins with the feel of a new chapter, taking our characters away from the debatable safety of Adua and into foreign climes, it finishes with many storylines still in progress. Nevertheless, it manages to keep up the pace with aplomb, and raises more questions than it answers...

For the full review, please see my blog:
https://theidlewoman.net/2021/01/10/before-they-are-hanged-2007-joe-abercrombie/ ( )
  TheIdleWoman | Mar 15, 2021 |
Abercrombie weet het serieus spannend te houden. In ieder geval, boek 2 bevat dus, zoals typisch in een trilogie, meer actie, veel meer actie. Er wordt veel gevochten, gemarteld en gestorven, da's een feit.

De oorlog tussen de Unie en Bethod (en z'n Noordmannen) is in volle gang. Maar de Unie strijdt ook op een ander front: Dagoska, dat door de Gurken dreigt ingenomen te worden.

Superieur Glokta wordt eropuit gestuurd om ginder het bewind over te nemen en alles in het werk te stellen om Dagoska in handen van de Unie te houden. Maar hij stoot al snel op weerstand en krijgt te maken met omkoping, bedrog, manipulatie en dergelijke meer. Hier beschrijft Abercrombie een soort scène à la de moderne tijd: De echte macht is niet in handen van de politiek, maar van de privé, van de rijken: de handelaren, de banken, ... Armoede tiert welig, de grootste groep krijgt de minste kansen, i.t.t. de elitie, uiteraard. Ondanks alle inspanningen (onderzoek, folteringen, overeenkomsten afsluiten), kan ook Glokta het tij niet keren, niet verhinderen dat de Gurken toch Dagoska veroveren.

Hoofdlector Sult en Glokta zijn bijna 2 handen op 1 buik, ondanks dat Glokta wel Sult dient. Maar als de een valt, valt de ander sowieso ook. Dus proberen zij ook hun positie te beschermen, vooral als dan veel later een moord gepleegd wordt op kroonprins Raynault, die nog de enige overblijvende troonopvolger was.

Eerder had Kolonel West prins Ladisla vermoord, echter zonder voorbedachte rade. Ladisla moest als buffer dienen tegen de Noordmannen, voelde zich echter intelligent genoeg om zelf een aanval op te zetten vanuit zijn positie, maar dat pakte slecht uit, vooral omdat er geen steun van de andere troepen kon komen. Toen later, nadat de groep met West, Ladisla en de Noordmannen Drieboom, Douw, Grim, Hondman en Tul het wonden likten, bleek dat Ladisla de van een strafkamp opgeëiste Cathil wou bespringen, werd West woedend. Ladisla werd in het nauw gedreven, viel echter in een afgrond en was op slag dood. Vanzelfsprekend weet nog niemand hoe Ladisla aan z'n dood gekomen is, behalve de bende van West, natuurlijk.


Maar goed, de oorlog tussen de Unie en Bethod woedt in alle hevigheid en de Unie, althans het groepje Noordmannen (Drieboom e.d.), krijgt steun uit onverwachte hoek: Rillingen en nog enkele Karels, ofte overgelopen krijgers van Bethod die het niet meer met z'n politiek eens zijn. Samen vechten ze tegen se Shanka's of platkoppen: noch mens, noch beest, maar wel verschrikkelijk en gevaarlijk. West neemt op een bepaald ogenblik ook even de macht over van Maarschalk Burr, die plots zwaar ziek is (bloed overgeven e.d.), en zwijgt over de toestand van deze laatste opdat er geen paniek zou uitbreken, en zeker om de ego's van de generaals Kroy en Pouder van Burr af te schermen; de een verwijt de ander niet te hebben geholpen in de strijd, terwijl ze allebei zwaar onder vuur hebben gelegen en zo elkaar niet konden helpen.

De groep met Bayaz (Eerste der Magiërs), waartoe ook Logen, Ferro, Quai, Langvoet en Jezal behoren, zet zijn reis verder richting de rand van de wereld (zoals dat heet), met alle obstakels en ontberingen van dien, incl. gevechten met Shanka's. De zoektoch naar het Zaad verloopt niet bepaald probleemloos. Ook Jezal, een verwend nest toen hij in het leger actief was en meedeed aan de Wedstrijd, verandert van gedaante eens hij zelf geconfronteerd wordt met ontberingen en levensbedreigende situaties.

De boog kan niet altijd gespannen staan, wat begrijpelijk is, en dus volgt er veel later in het verhaal een potje liefde tussen Logen en Ferro. Beide zijn krijgers, maar liggen qua karakter ver uiteen. Laten we het wijten aan de ontberingen en omstandigheden waarin ze zich bevinden. ;-)

O ja, Ardee, de zus van West en de vriendin (het lief) van Jezal (althans in zijn ogen), leeft ook nog. Glokta kan er nu eindelijk tijd voor vrijmaken, na z'n maandenlange tijd in Dagoska. Hij slaagt er zelfs in, dankzij z'n macht, om haar huiselijke situatie terug in orde te krijgen.

In ieder geval, deze 2de etappe was ook weer zeer vermakelijk, spannend, grappig (Glokta's cynische/sarcastische gedachten), ... De vertaling blijft zeer goed en eerder neutraal (dus niet zozeer Nederlands Nederlands, zoals anders wel veelal het geval is), ondanks enkele verwoordingen die verraadden dat het boek in Nederland vertaald werd.

Boek 3, [b:De Val van een koning|8962720|De Val van een koning (De eerste wet, #3)|Joe Abercrombie|https://d.gr-assets.com/books/1284417172s/8962720.jpg|929012], het dikste van de drie, moet sowieso gelezen worden om de gaten op te vullen:
Waarheen reist de groep van Bayaz, Logen e.d. nu? Zullen ze nog samenblijven en een manier vinden om tegen Khalul te strijden?
Kan Bethod verslagen worden?
Wie heeft de moord op kroonprins Raynault gepleegd en waarom?
Zal Glokta's periode in Dagoska hem blijven achtervolgen?
Wat met een eventuele vrede tussen de Unie en de Gurken?
Enz.

Maar da's voor binnen x-aantal weken. Nu even iets anders lezen. ( )
  TechThing | Jan 22, 2021 |
Its a lot better when there's a plot to go with the characters. ( )
  kaitlynn_g | Dec 13, 2020 |
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"The second novel in the wildly popular First Law Trilogy from New York Times bestseller Joe Abercrombie. Superior Glokta has a problem. How do you defend a city surrounded by enemies and riddled with traitors, when your allies can by no means be trusted, and your predecessor vanished without a trace? It's enough to make a torturer want to run -- if he could even walk without a stick. Northmen have spilled over the border of Angland and are spreading fire and death across the frozen country. Crown Prince Ladisla is poised to drive them back and win undying glory. There is only one problem -- he commands the worst-armed, worst-trained, worst-led army in the world. And Bayaz, the First of the Magi, is leading a party of bold adventurers on a perilous mission through the ruins of the past. The most hated woman in the South, the most feared man in the North, and the most selfish boy in the Union make a strange alliance, but a deadly one. They might even stand a chance of saving mankind from the Eaters -- if they didn't hate each other quite so much. Ancient secrets will be uncovered. Bloody battles will be won and lost. Bitter enemies will be forgiven -- but not before they are hanged. First Law Trilogy The Blade Itself Before They Are Hanged Last Argument of Kings For more from Joe Abercrombie, check out: Novels in the First Law world Best Served Cold The Heroes Red Country"--

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