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The Enneagram: A Christian Perspective (original 1989; edição 2001)

por Richard Rohr (Autor), Andreas Ebert (Autor)

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Richard Rohr and Andrea Ebert's runaway best-seller shows both the basic logic of the Enneagram and its harmony with the core truths of Christian thought from the time of the early Church forward.
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Título:The Enneagram: A Christian Perspective
Autores:Richard Rohr (Autor)
Outros autores:Andreas Ebert (Autor)
Informação:Crossroad (2001), Edition: Illustrated, 320 pages
Coleções:ResearchProject:ProgressiveChristianity, ResearchProject:Enneagram, ResearchProject:General, Em leitura
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The Enneagram: A Christian Perspective por Richard Rohr (1989)

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Old Man: Promise me, that you’ll always remember, that all Nine Types are valuable—that all equally come from God! (dies)

(twenty minutes later)

—Goosecap says that the Fours are the stooges of the Threes! The Fours are the stooges of the Threes! The Threes! The Threes!!! (dies)….

…. (resurrects) Goosecap says that we feed their madness almost every day, and most of the time we don’t even realize it!
—(dismissive) We know what Goosecap says.
—Lol, as if. Who IS Goosecap?
—Yeah, I’ve never heard of Goosecap. I like this pizza. I love this song. What are we talking about again?
—Goosecap explained so much, before his mind exploded!
—Yeah, and did any of the cool kids like him? Did anybody promote him?
—It’s like somebody finally found out about it, but it’s almost like it doesn’t matter!
—Was he a talking goose?
—He was my friend! (dies again)

Anyway, but you shouldn’t dump on yourself or other types; I tried once and it doesn’t work. To do what I can to try to dull my own vices is one thing, but to imagine I’ve reversed the pattern is just to ignore it…. And as far as other people go, they have powerful patterns to stop them from beginning to evaluate if their vices exist, and especially when we all conspire to ruin their characters with gifts, probably you would mess up too, you know, if you were that three-pretending-to-be-a-four (ie Society).

Richard (obvs this is not all directly about him, lol) was also brave to go against the hyper-individualism of society and psychology, and talk about the countries, although obviously given this early date (early 21st century!) it’s somewhat ethnocentric/Eurocentric. But that just means someone should write The Enneagram and (X) where X is some collection of non Euro-centric cultures (if there are any left, and if the public will take an interest in them).

But those Threes are a trip, boy.

—We’re going to change the company culture.
—You’re changing the store playlist?
—No. I’m not doing that. An important part of our company culture is called Not Spending Money On Art, and that is NOT going to change.

(Female 3) (beauty queen in tears) I’m just trying to use their stupid ideas, which I do Not like, and their stupid words, which I do Not understand, to make money for Me, so that Eye can be successful, and so that I can have more and they can have nothing and be poor so that I win and they lose and I’m successful, because that’s what I deserve. (tears)
(Male 3) (pulls closer) Aww, that’s right baby. Listen, they don’t matter. They don’t understand that being aggressive is an important part of being kind and making friends—and Democracy! They’re not from this country, hun. They’re Afro-Cubans.

Although to be fair, Threes can be great.

—Hey, I may lie to your face, but if you don’t like it, I’m not afraid to punch you in the mouth, you sniveling Six. And now, you’re going to take it.

…. But anyway, it is also nice to have a tool to talk about people problems without the epic drama of the dictatorships and nothing else, despite me liking the social psychology piece.

…. (later)

Old Man: (resurrects) Too much of a good thing, is still an imbalance. (dies)
  goosecap | Mar 4, 2023 |
Interesting read and I liked how they talked about particular experiences with people they knew and historical figures. The writing is a bit harder to read in spots, but there is gold in here. ( )
  aevaughn | Jun 10, 2020 |
There was some very good and interesting stuff, but I found the writing style clunky, so it was a bit of a slog. I also thought the writers made some very serious claims that they didn't back up with any references (for example, claims about certain types being vulnerable to suicide), which concerned me. ( )
  KWharton | Apr 4, 2020 |
Very helpful explanations about the Enneagram personality system from a Christian perspective. It doesn't have the useful questionnaires that some of the other books do, but is still an interesting read. Particularly helpful to learn about how different types tend to prefer different styles of worship. ( )
  SueinCyprus | Jan 26, 2016 |
This is a wonderful book that merges psychology and theology to provide a framework for the different schemas people have and explains that people don't all the view and interact with the world in the same way. The book helps to explain why certain people act the way they do, are motivated to do specific things, and why some people get along better than others. The entire theory is based around core sins/ virtues and what people need to do to become balanced and healthy. Having read a lot of psychology and theology, I really enjoyed the way this book was put together and the theory explained. ( )
  Neftzger | Jul 7, 2013 |
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I am afraid to drive the demons from my life, lest the angels also flee.
-- R. M. Rilke

And God showed me that sin will be no shame, but somehow honor for humanity....God's goodness makes the contrariness which is in us very profitable for us.
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The Enneagram is a very old typology that describes nine different characters. It shares with many other typologies the crude reduction of human behaviour to a limited number of character types.
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