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In the Vanishers’ Palace

por Aliette de Bodard

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Fantasy. Fiction. Historical Fiction. HTML:From the award-winning author of the Dominion of the Fallen series comes a dark retelling of Beauty and the Beast.
In a ruined, devastated world, where the earth is poisoned and beings of nightmares roam the land...
A woman, betrayed, terrified, sold into indenture to pay her village's debts and struggling to survive in a spirit world.
A dragon, among the last of her kind, cold and aloof but desperately trying to make a difference.
When failed scholar Yên is sold to Vu Côn, one of the last dragons walking the earth, she expects to be tortured or killed for Vu Côn's amusement.
But Vu Côn, it turns out, has a use for Yên: she needs a scholar to tutor her two unruly children. She takes Yên back to her home, a vast, vertiginous palace-prison where every door can lead to death. Vu Côn seems stern and unbending, but as the days pass Yên comes to see her kinder and caring side. She finds herself dangerously attracted to the dragon who is her master and jailer. In the end, Yên will have to decide where her own happiness lies—and whether it will survive the revelation of Vu Côn's dark, unspeakable secrets...
Advance praise for In the Vanishers' Palace
"Another stellar offering by Bodard. Her signature intensity is on display in this tale of people (and dragons) struggling to survive in the ruins of an alien conquest. Emotionally complex relationships interweave with richly drawn and deftly nuanced world-building." —Kate Elliott, author of the Court of Fives series
"A transformative experience. With dragons." —Fran Wilde, Hugo and Nebula nominated author of The Bone Universe and The Gemworld series.
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I feel so powerful ambivalent about this story and seeing other's strong reactions either way have only left me even more confused and rather sure that my brain is just as responsible as de Bodard for my utter discombobulation.

First of all, I came across this book by seeing it on a Queer book list and saw that it was in the Audible Included library. I had heard good things about de Bodard, so that was all the context I had going in. I wasn't aware it was a retelling of Beauty and the Beast and discovering the post apocalyptic sci-fi fantasy with Vietnamese mythology and folklore was an absolute delight. Quite frankly, you had me at sapphic romance with a dragon, so these elements were a wonderful bonus. There's also various diseases and bargains and magic based on word combinations. There's a lot. A lot of good stuff, but a lot. Possibly too much for a novella, which, it think, actually worked against the story and relatively low page count.

The worldbuilding is great. The eponymous Vanishers having toyed with earth and left it a post apocalyptic mess, leaving destruction, disease, and division as their legacy. An interesting situation with enigmatic and absent figures is a great place to start. I do think having it be a separate people to humans, rather than a more accurate previous generation/ culture gives humanity a bit of an unearned pass on the whole causing the Apocalypse thing, but we're doing sci-fi and remnant stuff, which is cool. There are also human villages seemingly based on traditional Vietnamese culture and dragons who apparently barter life for life for direly needed medical assistance.

The story opens with the most opaque chapter of a story that is tricky to parse, but gets easier as the narrative carries you along. Our protagonist offers themself to be taken by the dragon in place of their mother, after the dragon had been called for emergency care of a sick child. Instead of being killed or made into a concubine, something very oddly joked about by the dragon, the MC acts as school teacher for the dragons kids. A will they won't they romance ensues with complications around agency, withholding of important information, illness, and being sequestered away from the MC's people. It really isn't presented anywhere near as straight forward as that and at times I found myself confused and my focus drifting from the audiobook, leaving me even more lost and re-listening to a number of chunks along the way.

A lot of the prose is beautiful. De Bodard is clearly a skilled writer and I am keen to try other examples of their work. As a number of other reviews have pointed out, unfortunately, there is a real tendency to tell rather than show the relationships between the characters and the emotions and romance between the MC and the dragon. This includes the classic instalove problem and eschewing the slowburn romance, which is particularly strange as that is what Beauty and the Beast is all about, right? I like the characters, but they are all archetypes and adjectives rather than demonstrating their personalities and growth over the story. There is so much potential in them, and so much in this story to be honest, but they aren't given the space to breathe.

Something I really appreciated was the handling of gender with a few non binary characters and some interesting and respectful discussion of pronouns, including correcting assumptions and picking up on the pronouns a person uses for themself. There does seem to be a singular distillation of non binary as being a third gender and some contradictory descriptions of a character whose gender is assumed incorrectly and then is later described as something along the lines of being very obviously agender. Being non binary or agender or any other gender beyond men and women are not one thing, but an infinite spectrum, experience, understanding, and presentation of gender that doesn't have a look or aesthetic (although a young dragon in dungarees with a side shave would look sick). Androgyneity is a thing, but not all non binary folx are androgynous. I greatly appreciate the effort and inclusion though. The description and use of pronouns with how they relate to the way people refer to each other signifying their relationship and dynamic is also a really interesting thing to see, especially alongside the previous discussion.

With not seeing a lot of the romance and relationship development, despite us being told and aspects being discussed, there is a very weird power dynamic at play that I found uncomfortable. I totally get that there can be kinks around this and fully support people writing about that of that's their passion, bur that doesn’t seem to be the vibe of this story. They actually go so far as to discuss consent and agency a couple of times, which is great, but beyond declaring someone not your slave anymore, while still keeping seriously important information about this somone from them, doesn't really change anything about the dynamics or how things started. It might just be me, as I saw someone saying the opposite of my feelings on the matter in another review. But, yeah, I got weird vibes and was kinda uncomfortable.

I really wanted to love this and there are elements I do, but the level of confusion and just how much I didn't feel that I got to know the characters well enough and absolutely didn't see or understand the romance really hampered my enjoyment. Judging by a lot of the reviews, this might be a me thing and I am rather autistic with ADHD, which could well be a factor here.

Ultimately, I think it's a case of too many ideas in not enough space combined with beautiful lyrical prose arranged unconventionally that made this confusing, and then the lack of on page development kept me from really hooking into the characters. I'm still glad I read it and I am intrigued to read some more de Bodard.

The audiobook narration by Nancy Wu is wonderful and really adds to the mystical fairytale fantasy of it all. ( )
  RatGrrrl | Dec 20, 2023 |
I enjoyed the story. Tracking some of the terms used and expectations was a bit challenging. Interesting setting and characters. I would certainly read more in that setting. ( )
  eleanorg | Feb 15, 2023 |
A different Beauty and the Beast meets Alien Invasion set in a non-western setting. I would have liked a little more build up of romance in the story but was enchanted by it all and truly drawn in.
There was an alien invasion and with them they brought what became diseases, which were meant to change people to make them more useful to the invaders. This is now a hard world with very limited resources and really everyone has to justify their existence. Life can be nasty brutish and short and Vu Con sometimes helps but their price can be harsh. Yen is the price, she is willing to save her mother to be the price as she can see that there isn't really a place for her and she can see that soon she might be judged as not useful and choice may be taken from her.
It's interesting and the world is one I'd like to see more of and learn more of. ( )
  wyvernfriend | Apr 2, 2022 |
The "romance" started from the moment one character took the other prisoner and NEVER developed on the basis of...well, anything at all, let alone anything a healthy relationship should be based on. In fact, the list of reasons against the two of them getting together grew longer.

As interesting as the role of words in magic was, the worldbuilding with the plagues and magic and how the palace works were disconnectingly convoluted, random things just thrown around and alluded to with flowery language that failed to ground me in any level of understanding. ( )
  hissingpotatoes | Jan 5, 2022 |
Start with a well-written fantasy. Combine Vietnamese characters and traditions with Beauty and the Beast. Add a dash of science fiction. Shake it up and add a dollop of philosophical and ethical musing. You end up with the book In the Vanishers' Palace. Oh, and a dragon!

This book made me think about questions such as "How do we define usefulness?" and "How do we grow into the 'best' us?" and "How do we love someone who isn't like 'us'?". All those lead to the deeper questions of how we define "we" and "us."

I fell in love with this book because it told a good story and challenged me to expand my horizons. I like that magic was comprised of words, that words held power in so many ways. I loved the idea that Beauty was a tutor to the wards of the Beast -- that made so much sense to me. And did I mention a dragon?

This book is not your traditional fantasy. If that is what you are looking for, perhaps a different book is for you. Nor is it a conventional "Beauty and the Beast." If you want to spread your wings and try a unique fantasy, then this book might well suit you. ( )
  Jean_Sexton | Oct 31, 2021 |
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Fantasy. Fiction. Historical Fiction. HTML:From the award-winning author of the Dominion of the Fallen series comes a dark retelling of Beauty and the Beast.
In a ruined, devastated world, where the earth is poisoned and beings of nightmares roam the land...
A woman, betrayed, terrified, sold into indenture to pay her village's debts and struggling to survive in a spirit world.
A dragon, among the last of her kind, cold and aloof but desperately trying to make a difference.
When failed scholar Yên is sold to Vu Côn, one of the last dragons walking the earth, she expects to be tortured or killed for Vu Côn's amusement.
But Vu Côn, it turns out, has a use for Yên: she needs a scholar to tutor her two unruly children. She takes Yên back to her home, a vast, vertiginous palace-prison where every door can lead to death. Vu Côn seems stern and unbending, but as the days pass Yên comes to see her kinder and caring side. She finds herself dangerously attracted to the dragon who is her master and jailer. In the end, Yên will have to decide where her own happiness lies—and whether it will survive the revelation of Vu Côn's dark, unspeakable secrets...
Advance praise for In the Vanishers' Palace
"Another stellar offering by Bodard. Her signature intensity is on display in this tale of people (and dragons) struggling to survive in the ruins of an alien conquest. Emotionally complex relationships interweave with richly drawn and deftly nuanced world-building." —Kate Elliott, author of the Court of Fives series
"A transformative experience. With dragons." —Fran Wilde, Hugo and Nebula nominated author of The Bone Universe and The Gemworld series.

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