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The Mirror of Relationship: Love, Sex, and Chastity

por J. Krishnamurti

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This book features excerpts on the title's theme from Krishnamurti's talks and discussions held between 1933 and 1967. They have proven helpful in dialogues and for use in high school and college classrooms. There are talks on marriage, love, relationship, and sex. Krishnamurti states, "sex becomes an extraordinary, difficult, and complex problem so long as you do not understand the mind."Krishnamurti asks the reader to investigate essential questions: How can I live with another without conflict? Why are relationships difficult? What is awareness in relationship? Do I really know what love is? What does it mean to learn in a relationship? What is the role of thought and memory in relating to another?"There is no escape from relationship. In that relationship, which is the mirror in which we can see ourselves, we can discover what we are, our reactions, our prejudices, our fears, depression, anxieties, loneliness, sorrow, pain, grief. We can also discover whether we love or there is no such thing as love. So, we will examine this question of relationship because that is the basis of love." -J. Krishnamurti Madras, India, 1982"Why does the mind think about sex at all? Why? Why has it become a central issue in your life? Sex has become an extraordinary, difficult, and complex problem so long as you do not understand the mind, which thinks about the problem. The act itself can never be a problem but thought about the act creates the problem." -J. Krishnamurti, The First and Last Freedom… (mais)
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Krishnamurti asks the reader to investigate essential questions: How can I live with another without conflict? Why are relationships difficult? What is awareness in relationship? Do I really know what love is? What does it mean to learn in a relationship? What is the role of thought and memory in relating to another?

"There is no escape from relationship. In that relationship, which is the mirror in which we can see ourselves, we can discover what we are, our reactions, our prejudices, our fears, depression, anxieties, loneliness, sorrow, pain, grief. We can also discover whether we love or there is no such thing as love. So, we will examine this question of relationship because that is the basis of love." -J. Krishnamurti Madras, India, 1982 ( )
  MaSS.Library | Feb 2, 2024 |
> Babelio : https://www.babelio.com/livres/Krishnamurti-Amour-sexe-et-chastete/369772

> Krishnamurti a su unir ce qui semble être des opposés. Cet ouvrage aide à comprendre l'amour (le vrai), le sexe (ce besoin de la pensée), la chasteté (ce qui nous touche lorsque l'on passe sur l'autre rive). Un enseignement riche si l'on est adepte de Krishnamurti et que l'on a cheminé sur ses autres ouvrages.
Danieljean (Babelio)

> Une autre approche sur la sexualité.
On sort toujours bousculé dans nos convictions quand on lit Krishnamurti.zagames,
zagames (Babelio)

> « Ce n’est pas une preuve de bonne santé que d’être parfaitement intégré dans une société profondément malade ». Cette citation de Jiddu Krishnamurti a fait le tour d’Internet. L’occasion pour certains de méditer sur leur condition humaine, pour d’autres d’avoir envie d’en savoir plus sur ce « philosophe insoumis », né en Inde en 1895, et mort aux États-Unis en 1986. Il s’y était réfugié après avoir fui son pays, qui voulait faire de lui un gourou. L’opposé de sa personnalité : « Dès que vous suivez quelqu’un, vous cessez de suivre la vérité». Toute sa pensée est fondée sur la conviction qu’une transformation de la société ne peut émerger que d’une transformation radicale de l’individu. Deux ouvrages (1) inédits en français nous montrent à quel point Krishnamurti oeuvrait pour que chacun développe sa propre intelligence.
*Amour, Sexe et Chasteté / L’Impossible Question de Jiddu Krishnamurti, Stock, 2010
Erik Pigani (Psychologies)

> RÉSUMÉ. — J. Krishnamurti, penseur à contre-courant des idées reçues de son époque, n’hésita pas, dès 1948, à jeter un regard lucide sur des institutions telles que le mariage ou le célibat des moines. Pour lui, le noeud de toute société tient d’abord dans la relation qu’établissent les hommes entre eux au niveau le plus élémentaire : celui du couple. Ce qui pose la question des rapports de domination, du rôle de l’amour et du sexe dans la relation.
Le sexe, loin d’être diabolisé, est soumis à une observation approfondie : il ne s’agit pas de nier la pulsion sexuelle, mais d’éviter que l’assouvissement d’un besoin naturel ne tourne à un rapport de domination ou à une obsession. Le sexe mérite sa place dans notre vie, mais seul l’amour lui permet de s’exprimer de façon pleine et entière.
L’amour est défini à partir de ce qu’il n’est pas. Il n’est pas l’attachement, la dépendance affective, le désir. Il n’est pas non plus un moyen de combler sa solitude. L’amour n’est pas non plus le mariage, qui n’est rien moins qu’un contrat social. L’amour suppose la responsabilité entre ceux qui s’aiment, qu’il s’agisse du conjoint ou du partenaire amoureux, des enfants, du voisin, de la nation et, finalement, de la société entière, dont chaque homme est responsable.
Le problème de la chasteté concerne d’abord ceux qui, dans le cadre d’une religion, ont fait voeu d’abstinence sexuelle. Krishnamurti analyse les ravages causés par le refoulement sexuel. Faire ou ne pas faire l’amour ne devrait pas être une question de contrainte mais de contexte. Si l’amour est présent, l’une ou l’autre attitude cessent d’être un problème. L’essentiel est d’observer simplement les faits et non une réalité idéalisée par la pensée. Car c’est en définitive la pensée qui est à l’origine de nombreux clivages : clivage entre soi et l’autre, clivages religieux, nationaux, générationnels. Réaliser que la pensée est le support des conditionnements auxquels nous sommes soumis nous offre un accès à la perception directe d’un état de fait. Et les questions posées s’éclairent d’autant mieux que nous leur donnons le temps de faire écho en nous dans le silence. C’est de ce silence, de cette « conscience sans choix » qui ne juge ni ne condamne que jaillit l’amour.
*Source: https://www.centredeconnaissance.org/ ( )
  Joop-le-philosophe | Jan 26, 2021 |
Librería 2. Estante 3.
  atman2019 | Jul 18, 2019 |
A profound and highly complex book. What he says is so correct. However, Cheri Huber is much more direct.
  mrslstevenson | Mar 11, 2011 |
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This book features excerpts on the title's theme from Krishnamurti's talks and discussions held between 1933 and 1967. They have proven helpful in dialogues and for use in high school and college classrooms. There are talks on marriage, love, relationship, and sex. Krishnamurti states, "sex becomes an extraordinary, difficult, and complex problem so long as you do not understand the mind."Krishnamurti asks the reader to investigate essential questions: How can I live with another without conflict? Why are relationships difficult? What is awareness in relationship? Do I really know what love is? What does it mean to learn in a relationship? What is the role of thought and memory in relating to another?"There is no escape from relationship. In that relationship, which is the mirror in which we can see ourselves, we can discover what we are, our reactions, our prejudices, our fears, depression, anxieties, loneliness, sorrow, pain, grief. We can also discover whether we love or there is no such thing as love. So, we will examine this question of relationship because that is the basis of love." -J. Krishnamurti Madras, India, 1982"Why does the mind think about sex at all? Why? Why has it become a central issue in your life? Sex has become an extraordinary, difficult, and complex problem so long as you do not understand the mind, which thinks about the problem. The act itself can never be a problem but thought about the act creates the problem." -J. Krishnamurti, The First and Last Freedom

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