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The Forever War (1974)

por Joe Haldeman

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Fiction. Science Fiction. HTML:Winner of the Hugo and Nebula Awards: A futuristic masterpiece, "perhaps the most important war novel written since Vietnam" (Junot Díaz).

In this novel, a landmark of science fiction that began as an MFA thesis for the Iowa Writers' Workshop and went on to become an award-winning classic??inspiring a play, a graphic novel, and most recently an in-development film??man has taken to the stars, and soldiers fighting the wars of the future return to Earth forever alienated from their home.

Conscripted into service for the United Nations Exploratory Force, a highly trained unit built for revenge, physics student William Mandella fights for his planet light years away against the alien force known as the Taurans. "Mandella's attempt to survive and remain human in the face of an absurd, almost endless war is harrowing, hilarious, heartbreaking, and true," says Pulitzer Prize??winning novelist Junot Díaz??and because of the relative passage of time when one travels at incredibly high speed, the Earth Mandella returns to after his two-year experience has progressed decades and is foreign to him in disturbing ways.

Based in part on the author's experiences in Vietnam, The Forever War is regarded as one of the greatest military science fiction novels ever written, capturing the alienation that servicemen and women experience even now upon returning home from battle. It shines a light not only on the culture of the 1970s in which it was written, but also on our potential future. "To say that The Forever War is the best science fiction war novel ever written is to damn it with faint praise. It is . . . as fine and woundingly genuine a war story as any I've read" (William Gibson).

This ebook features an illustrated biography of Joe Haldeman including rare images from the author's personal
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    Starship Troopers por Robert A. Heinlein (infiniteletters, goodiegoodie)
  2. 80
    Old Man's War por John Scalzi (JulesJones)
    JulesJones: Two books which examine in different ways what happens to the recruits in an interstellar war who by the very nature of their service can never go back to their home culture.
  3. 10
    Armor por John Steakley (amysisson, RASinfo)
    RASinfo: Perfect read for the story and ideas of the same theme.
  4. 10
    The Ethos Effect por L. E. Modesitt, Jr. (thejazzmonger)
    thejazzmonger: Good characters and a story with intelligence and action. It makes you think, like every Haldeman book does.
  5. 22
    Forever Peace por Joe Haldeman (sturlington)
    sturlington: Forever Peace is a thematic sequel to The Forever War.
  6. 11
    A Canticle for Leibowitz por Walter M. Miller Jr. (sturlington)
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    The Healer's War por Elizabeth Ann Scarborough (LamontCranston)
    LamontCranston: The Forever War was inspired by Haldemans experiences in Vietnam, Scarborough writes about her experiences in Vietnam directly.
  8. 14
    Dauntless por Jack Campbell (amysisson)
    amysisson: First in a series of thoughtful military SF with great FTL tactical details.
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 Science Fiction Fans: The Forever War? Ugh.113 não lido / 113Tobbi73, Agosto 2016
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Brilliant example of military science fiction. ( )
  everettroberts | Oct 20, 2023 |
A totally competent exploration of an interesting idea. ( )
  emmby | Oct 4, 2023 |
Lonely hero - tragic circumstances - lovely tale we’ll told ( )
  farrhon | Aug 10, 2023 |
I picked this up a while back, but only just got around to it. A bad habit. It's a story of a space war based on the Vietnam war, with which the author had had recent experience. It's funny to think, but the story was envisioned to start in 1997, when the narrator is shipped out to "Charon", Haldeman's name for the 10th planet beyond Pluto, which gave me a start - the real Charon, Pluto's moon, hadn't been discovered in 1974 when this book was published.

One theme of the book is satirizing the war that America was still fruitlessly fighting at the time of publication, and another theme was coming back to civilization after years out of it - time dilation means the characters spend mere months travelling around while years pass back on Earth. Haldeman's prediction of the 2010s or 2020s is in some ways off-the-mark, but in others, frighteningly accurate. He pretty much predicts smartphone zombies, right on the nose. On the other hand, an essentially lawless society where one literally requires a bodyguard just to step outside? Not quite, but I've heard parts of the USA are getting to that point.

Going much further into the future, Haldeman predicts something more like [b: Brave New World|5479|Brave New World / Brave New World Revisited|Aldous Huxley|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1331315450s/5479.jpg|39947767] (incidentally, I read that book after this one - just finished as of writing this review - and am realizing only now that these ideas have been around for a long time), where humans are produced by a cloning-like method, and everyone's made gay as a method of contraception against unwanted pregnancy. At this point, the narrator and his contemporaries are made to feel ostracized for being heterosexual.

I ... really don't know what to think about this. The rest of the book was good enough - easy to read, lightly funny, and well-characterized even when the main set of characters changes several times over the course of the book. And I get that this seems to be a narrative device to isolate the main character from his time. But I'm deeply offended by the suggestion that it takes but a prick of some hormone injection to make one's orientation flip, or by the idea of gays genuinely ostracizing heteros or - !!! - calling them "queer" in an odd reversal of the term. Is Haldeman letting his homophobia show? Or was he trying to say something else?

I'm only going to deduct one star, though, because the sci-fi stuff was outlandish and cool. ( )
  finlaaaay | Aug 1, 2023 |
While some of the cultural "choices" were a bit farfetched ("homosex") and a bit dated, as a metaphor for what war does to both the participants and society it holds up well. ( )
  EZLivin | Jul 4, 2023 |
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I got to re-reading it last night (for the first time in nearly 20 years) and couldn't put it down.
adicionada por lampbane | editarBoing Boing, Cory Doctorow (Mar 30, 2003)
 

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Adams, MarcArtista da capaautor secundárioalgumas ediçõesconfirmado
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Hamilton, Peter F.Introduçãoautor secundárioalgumas ediçõesconfirmado
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Fiction. Science Fiction. HTML:Winner of the Hugo and Nebula Awards: A futuristic masterpiece, "perhaps the most important war novel written since Vietnam" (Junot Díaz).

In this novel, a landmark of science fiction that began as an MFA thesis for the Iowa Writers' Workshop and went on to become an award-winning classic??inspiring a play, a graphic novel, and most recently an in-development film??man has taken to the stars, and soldiers fighting the wars of the future return to Earth forever alienated from their home.

Conscripted into service for the United Nations Exploratory Force, a highly trained unit built for revenge, physics student William Mandella fights for his planet light years away against the alien force known as the Taurans. "Mandella's attempt to survive and remain human in the face of an absurd, almost endless war is harrowing, hilarious, heartbreaking, and true," says Pulitzer Prize??winning novelist Junot Díaz??and because of the relative passage of time when one travels at incredibly high speed, the Earth Mandella returns to after his two-year experience has progressed decades and is foreign to him in disturbing ways.

Based in part on the author's experiences in Vietnam, The Forever War is regarded as one of the greatest military science fiction novels ever written, capturing the alienation that servicemen and women experience even now upon returning home from battle. It shines a light not only on the culture of the 1970s in which it was written, but also on our potential future. "To say that The Forever War is the best science fiction war novel ever written is to damn it with faint praise. It is . . . as fine and woundingly genuine a war story as any I've read" (William Gibson).

This ebook features an illustrated biography of Joe Haldeman including rare images from the author's personal

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